Should women be treated as equals

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It’s funny how often “women can work outside the home if they want to” gets translated as “women must work outside the home and being a stay-at-home mom is shameful.” No one is actually making that argument.
 
What is never mentioned are her parents and his parents. And any relatives.
 
The feminists - 1970s Second Wave - made precisely that argument. Being a stay at home mom was the worst decision ANY woman could make.
 
The head of a women’s business association was interviewed and was disappointed that women did not own most businesses. The goal was never about equality.
 
I could post exceptions too. My family had to communicate across a continent but did so. That’s what family meant.
 
Feminist is a wide umbrella term. They don’t all think alike. Some might consider stay-at-home moms shameful, which you’ll find is contrary to feminism’s message of women empowerment and freedom and respect for all women.
 
Salibi said:
Nothing. If that’s what she wants, a woman is free to stay at home and raise her family. Or she can work. Or join a monastery. if that’s what she wants .
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No that is not how it works today. I know a lot of working women who work because that is what is expected of them in todays society. I have been told by quite a few women if they could they would be at home with their family but they have been led to believe that a woman staying at home is ignorant and doing a brainless job. Also because our culture today is choosing more and more stuff and bigger homes, she has no choice.

A young girl coming out of high school is discouraged from even considering not going to college. Heaven help her if she should even mention to anyone she would just want to marry and have a family and stay home and raise children.

Women have had a lot of extra pressure added to them today to work.
 
LawyersGunsAndMoney said:
It’s funny how often “women can work outside the home if they want to” gets translated as “women must work outside the home and being a stay-at-home mom is shameful.” No one is actually making that argument.
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Maybe no one is making that argument here in this thread but that is the influence on women today. Women are being pushed into the workforce and not all women want to go but do go because they feel they have no other choice.

Maybe we should speak out louder and let women know it is okay not to go to college and it is okay not to work full time and put your children in day care. Maybe we could start telling women that the huge home really won’t matter in the end but it is what you do in love and for Christ that will matter.
 
People in this thread need to know the truth - TOTAL strangers told women what to think and how to live.
 
MagdalenaRita said:
know a lot of working women who work because that is what is expected of them in todays society
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The thing is, there’s no law preventing them from doing it, only this social stigma, which, by the way, I don’t find anywhere where I live. A women chooses to work? Unremarkable. She quits to have babies? Unremarkable. Maybe where you live is different, I guess?
MagdalenaRita said:
have been told by quite a few women if they could they would be at home with their family but they have been led to believe that a woman staying at home is ignorant and doing a brainless jo
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They have the freedom to do whatever they want. There’s a lot of stuff that I do that make people think I’m brainless, and being Catholic is one of them. I remain, to this day, a Catholic. In this case, it’s the woman’s fault for failing to exercise her freedom to stay at home, but do you really expect some sort of law mandating women stay at home because of this?
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A young girl coming out of high school is discouraged from even considering not going to college.
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Young men as well. Modern society has no use for the uneducated. People encourage girls to go to school for their own benefit, to increase their chances for higher paying employment and a better standard of living.
 
Salibi said:
The thing is, there’s no law preventing them from doing it, only this social stigma, which, by the way, I don’t find anywhere where I live. A women chooses to work? Unremarkable. She quits to have babies? Unremarkable. Maybe where you live is different, I guess?
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You’re right it is not the law preventing it, but it is pressure from feminist ideas and it is everywhere.

If you listen you can hear and you can see it.

Men have now bought into the lie that a woman is brainless if she stays at home and doesn’t work and that the home doesn’t matter, so he, the husbands, are wanting women to work.

You can see that in this thread alone. There have been quite a few men who have come here and are all,“it isn’t right for women to stay home and have babies”.

And one of the biggest reasons you hear for women to go out to the workforce is $$$. That is the equal opportunity people talk about.

There are families definitely where both need to work to pay the bills, absolutely, but they don’t usually call that looking for equal opportunity, but making ends meet.
 
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“making ends meet” That instead of two adversaries. Sad what the media and some radicals have done to women and by extension, men.
 
Yes, total strangers like “the head of a women’s business association”, presumably somewhere on planet earth.

For a person who claims to be a researcher of some great ability, you have this odd habit of reporting anecdotes stripped of pretty much all detail.

“Today in the news, someone somewhere said something mean about housewives. Therefore Second Wave Feminists ARE EVIL!!!”
 
edwest211 said:
People in this thread need to know the truth - TOTAL strangers told women what to think and how to live.
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Of course we’re going to do what any random stranger tells us to do. Because we’re just too stupid to think it out and make our own decisions.
Your repeated insults of women’s intelligence are getting really old, Ed.
 
It’s called marketing. And that’s what Second Wave Feminists were doing in the 1970s. Go to now.org

Those women weren’t doing nothing.
 
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