homer:
Silmarillion i don’t know what to say, ur doubting your own Bible saying the word of God is not enough for you! Anyway i will show you some verses hoping that you will accept the word God present in the Bible instead of following the traditions of men.
You utterly misunderstood my point. I think the bible is the word of God. But it is not the SOLE rule of faith, nor does it claim to be
homer:
**Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (John 5:39)
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Agreed. OK, so where here does it say that ONLY in the scriptures?
homer:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2 Timothy 3:16, 17)
It is all these things, yet this doesn’t make the claim that it is the SOLE authority. It says that scripture is PROFITABLE, NOT EXLUSIVE for such things. This verse does not preclude other sources as authoritative. And in fact New Testament itself declares the Church to be “the pillar and foundation of the truth” (1 Tim. 3:15). The Church you see, not scripture. BESIDES the fact that at the time Timothy was written, the entire NT had not even been composed yet, so what scripture was Paul referring too? Likely the OT. This simply can’t bear the weight you put on it.
homer:
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (2 Timothy 3:15)
It’s the same pattern. You tell me the wonderful things about scripture to which I agree wholeheartedly, but…where does this make or claime exlusive SOLE authority for itself.
homer:
**These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (Acts 17:11)
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Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. (Matthew 24:35)
Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them. (Isaiah 34:16)
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The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. (Isaiah 40:8)**
These all fall in the same category. You don’t have to convince me of the inerrancy, beauty, truth, etc. of scripture. I am asking you to show me where it claims SOLE authority in the life of th faithful.
homer:
Why do you try to add to the Bible the traditions of men.
But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? (Matthew 15:3)
Read this…
catholic.com/library/Scripture_and_Tradition.asp
…in order to understand the true role of scripture and tradition.
And finally:
homer:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:8, 19)
Not sure if your trying to Scare me here
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but one, it still doesn’t show exclusivity AND second it illustrates a real ignorance of biblical history. You read the Bible as a nicely laid out book from beginning to end, but it was neither composed nor canonized this way. When John wrote that the NT and certainly not the entire bible didn’t exist in the format you can buy at your local Christian bookstore today. You apply this phrase to the whole of the bible when the book of Revelations itself was often in dispute as to being one of the Canonized books. Not until the 4th century was the bible you know and love today put together. By a Catholic council noless. In studying the bible, one need know both history and context. To take it out of those parameters is to use and abuse if for ones own desires
In Christ Jesus
Steve