So Angry Skipped Eucharist

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I don’t know which is worse…the irrational exuberance of your parish or the dry, terse, emotionless vacuum that is our parish these days. What a mind-numbing slog it has been of late…There must be a reverent, spiritual, joyful middle ground!
 
dixieagle said:
I just wanted to say hello and let you know that I’ll be saying prayers that you find a parish home that edifies you. I am also a native Bostonian, Catholic school and B.C. grad (twenty or so years before you!) now living in the deep south. DId you go to St. Ignatius or attend Mass on campus?

Thank heavens, no liturgical dancers here, though the squirmy children on the altar in our parish during the Eucharistic Prayer can be distracting, to say the least!!!

God bless!
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Hello! I did attend on campus at times (at St. Ignatius - not the ones offered in the dorms) but I mostly went home during the weekends and pretty much was only on campus for weekday Holy days. My cousin also went to BC and was married at St. Ignatius. (We’re both '95).

Nice to meet you!!!
 
lak611 said:
I checked out their bulletin. They have a note about the need to be quiet in church out of respect for Jesus’ presence in the Tabernacle and are having TLM’s for All Souls’ Day and the Vigil of the Assumption. It doesn’t sound like there would be any “liturgical dancing” there.
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I went to a wedding there once. Where I live now, this is only about 1/2 hour away 🙂
 
Island_Oak said:
I don’t know which is worse…the irrational exuberance of your parish or the dry, terse, emotionless vacuum that is our parish these days. What a mind-numbing slog it has been of late…There must be a reverent, spiritual, joyful middle ground!
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Ah! Good point. The “frozen chosen” are supposed to be the Presbyterians (according to a Presbyterian friend).
 
BostonMyrtleBea said:
I see what you mean about and will need to focus on this a bit more. I’m willing to put effort in to find something normal. Honestly, the situation was VERY foreign to me.

I don’t know if this is an attempt at being sarcastic or not when you say “maybe they have some sort of request form so that they could tailor the liturgy to suit your needs a little better” since this was a genuine request for sincere advice. Basically I have not, in my life, been to a Mass like the ones I’ve been to here. I’ve been to dozens of parishes in Boston and none of the priests asked us to get out of the aisles and I’ve never been shaken from a prayer with electric guitars and drums before. Perhaps others are used to Masses like that and maybe my own experiences are not the norm, but it did not feel Catholic. I felt I was in another type of church.

I’m going to talk to my priest in my old parish. Maybe he can be of some guidance as well.
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in a perfect world, there could be a valid mass in a war zone, with bombs exploding with clowns and liturgical dance, music by a rap quartet singing patriotic music, ushers in halloween costumes and sitar trance music playing… while the EMHCs wear unitards and twirl like whirling dirvishes…
as long as the Priest consecrates the host and wine, it IS the Body and Blood of Christ.
I sometimes think the trappings are there to trap the mind.
and we shouldn’t let it be so. The Eucharist is the everything. everything else is minor details.
 
Well, Liturgical Dance has never been approved by the Church.

Cardinal Arinze has confirmed this
adoremus.org/1003Arinze.html

Moreover, nobody may add something to the Mass not approved of in the liturgical books. A conference of bishops would need to get approval from the Holy See for any changes to a rite.

That may not do much good if the bishop is lax, but you certainly have a right not to be subjected to this.
 
In case it wasn’t clear from what Arnobius said above:

Liturgical dance is an abuse. You should report it to the local Bishop. It is best to do so in writing.
 
thechrismyster said:
maybe they have some sort of request form so that they could tailor the liturgy to suit your needs a little better. If you’re so caught up in the music and trappings that you skipped Communion with the Lord, you’re sorely missing the entire point of Mass.

Your anger separates you from Christ. Where do you think that anger originates?

If Good and evil were football teams, and you’ve been handed a play called “so angry at the bad liturgy i’ll avoid God”… which playbook do you think that came from?
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In your sarcasm you neglected to observe that by engaging in illicit liturgical practices (dancers) those in charge of these liturgies are engaging in the sin of scandal, leading the faithful towards and perhaps into sin by their public actions. But instead you blame the victim.
 
I sincerely do hope that the OP finds a parish where mass is said in the way it was meant to be said. I went on vacation this summer, and went to a Catholic Church outside of Seattle. Let us just say that I came away with sadness that turned into anger when I actually read their bulletin which spoke out against the Pope’s Motu Proprio. Anyways, I know how difficult it can be to prepare yourself to receive our Lord, the son of God, when you are distracted by all the nonsense going on around you. I can just suggest until you find a new parish, to do your best and stay focused on Jesus.
 
VociMike said:
In your sarcasm you neglected to observe that by engaging in illicit liturgical practices (dancers) those in charge of these liturgies are engaging in the sin of scandal, leading the faithful towards and perhaps into sin by their public actions. But instead you blame the victim.
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I appreciate the support, VociMike. I was hurt by such a nasty response when I was posting only to ask what the more-experienced would suggest as a way to handle it. My post was a plee for help in wanting to be closer to God, not futher away. There is always a bad apple in every bunch so I try to remember that. Most reponses were very helpful, though, and much appreciated.
 
BostonMyrtleBea said:
Hello! I did attend on campus at times (at St. Ignatius - not the ones offered in the dorms) but I mostly went home during the weekends and pretty much was only on campus for weekday Holy days. My cousin also went to BC and was married at St. Ignatius. (We’re both '95).

Nice to meet you!!!
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And you! (Coming to the deep South is quite a culture shock, isn’t it?) At least things here in our archdiocese in AL are fairly sedate and by the book (except for the kids on the altar…)

God bless, and best of luck in finding a parish that is a good fit; they are out there.
 
BostonMyrtleBea said:
I appreciate the support, VociMike. I was hurt by such a nasty response when I was posting only to ask what the more-experienced would suggest as a way to handle it. My post was a plee for help in wanting to be closer to God, not futher away. There is always a bad apple in every bunch so I try to remember that. Most reponses were very helpful, though, and much appreciated.
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Your post was just a living, breathing instance of the situation Pope Benedict XVI spoke of in Summorum Pontificum: “…in many places celebrations were not faithful to the prescriptions of the new Missal, but the latter actually was understood as authorizing or even requiring creativity, which frequently led to deformations of the liturgy which were hard to bear. I am speaking from experience, since I too lived through that period with all its hopes and its confusion. And I have seen how arbitrary deformations of the liturgy caused deep pain to individuals totally rooted in the faith of the Church.”

As such, a situation that even the Pope recognizes as problematic and it need of repair should not be dismissed with a sarcastic quip.
 
So sorry to hear of your plight. I agree with the other people who have posted. Finding the theme of each Mass might help. They may be published in your bulletin. Maybe you could speak to the priest. If he was talking in his homily about criticism he had received, it doesn’t sound as if everyone is happy. I don’t know if you can find out who the like minded people in your parish are but, if you can, maybe you can join forces and have a Mass that will answer your needs and theirs. A true traditional Mass very reverent and one where you can focus on the reason the Mass is being celebrated - the Eucharist.
I am from Ohio originally but, love the South. I live in SC and our Masses here in North Augusta are very traditional. Since we just lost our bishop to Birmingham, AL, I don’t know if you will find help there.
I don’t know if this will give you any ideas but, maybe you will find some comfort knowing that other people were appalled by what was happening in your church.
 
Kevin42 said:
…I went on vacation this summer, and went to a Catholic Church outside of Seattle. Let us just say that I came away with sadness that turned into anger when I actually read their bulletin which spoke out against the Pope’s Motu Proprio. …
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I grew up in that Archdiocese, and can say that this does not surprise me. Almost without exception, Masses there were quite dreadful. The felt-banner variety, complete with tambourines, which in my humble opinion have no business coming within 100 yards of Christ’s church. Virtually every priest I encountered was a “spirit of Vatican II” liberal. The sum total of those experiences was one of the factors that led me out of the Church for so long (20+ years).

I have recently encountered similar frustrations here in the Cleveland area.
 
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