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AndyF
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Sorry, but this is all within the common good.
You will remember the Church makes no formal recognition of common evil.
AndyF
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You will remember the Church makes no formal recognition of common evil.
AndyF
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st_lucy
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I am sorry if I am not understanding you, but are you saying that abortion is for the “common good”?Sorry, but this is all within the common good.
You will remember the Church makes no formal recognition of common evil.
AndyF
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mapleoak
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No this is not within the common good and the Church positively condemns abortion.Sorry, but this is all within the common good.
You will remember the Church makes no formal recognition of common evil.
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East_and_West
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I am sorry, but no one has a “right” to an education. We a privelaged society that provides a free education to every person. If some one chooses not to take advantage of that education, it is that person’s own fault.
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catharina
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AbortionEvery day we see all sorts of injustices that make our blood boil. For example, the politician who steals from their constituent’s coffers, or our extremely litigious society.
Which social injustice irks you the most??
Hunger
Homelessness
Then, also
Inequities in medical care
Inequities in education
BIGOTRY, as it influences all of the above
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rpp
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I would like to amend my earlier list. I want to add one item.
Political Correctness.
By that I mean the claim that saying anything negative about a person’s actions, beliefs or attitudes is inherently bad. The idea that all philosophies of life, that all religions, that all cultures, with the exception of Christianity, are somehow equally good and beneficial. That is patently and demonstrably false.
Consider the Nazis (holocaust) and the Aztecs (large-scale human sacrifice); evil societies and cultures to the core. Yet political correctness tell us not to criticize the Aztecs. Political correctness demands that we wring our hands over the problem of teen pregnancies, but never criticize a 16 for getting pregnant.
Political Correctness.
By that I mean the claim that saying anything negative about a person’s actions, beliefs or attitudes is inherently bad. The idea that all philosophies of life, that all religions, that all cultures, with the exception of Christianity, are somehow equally good and beneficial. That is patently and demonstrably false.
Consider the Nazis (holocaust) and the Aztecs (large-scale human sacrifice); evil societies and cultures to the core. Yet political correctness tell us not to criticize the Aztecs. Political correctness demands that we wring our hands over the problem of teen pregnancies, but never criticize a 16 for getting pregnant.
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East_and_West
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Are you suggesting that murdering the unborn is a common good?Sorry, but this is all within the common good.
You will remember the Church makes no formal recognition of common evil.
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vern_humphrey
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Wrong on two counts:
First, it is a right – it is just not a Federal right. It is one of those things left up to the states by the 10th Amendment. The Constitutions of the various states, however typically define education as a right. For example, Article 14, Section 1 of the Constitution of Arkansas:
I bet if you look into your state constitution, it says something similar.
Second, you can accuse people of “not taking advantage” of the system only if they have equal access to quality schools. Go to your state’s No Child Left Behind Report Card on the internet and note the wide disparity in performance from school to school. Plot the low performing schools on a map and tell me where they are – in the most crime- and poverty-ridden districts.
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Green_Tea
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That is a bizarre definition of “political correctness,” but I agree with you completely – this mindset is no good.
On the other hand, I have never met anyone or heard of anyone who believes this, so I am not sure how relevant it is?
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Sean_Boyle
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Social injustice on these boards means “things that society does that are bad for humanity” like abortion/murder (same thing)Does “social injustice” on these boards just mean “things I don’t like” or “things I think are bad for society”? Because that is all I am picking up from many of these responses.
Consider if you disagree, that you could be very wrong.
There is one absolute truth, is there not? Chances are very good that you don’t have it, correct. What are the odds on you having the absolute truth and everyone else has it wrong?
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anam
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I see your references to homosexuality and I agree to a certain point. However, I feel like a hypocrite as I have a brother, whom I love very much, who is homosexual. He is not a blatant homosexual and would never dream of imposing his beliefs on my children. One of my children is old enough (18) to understand that his uncle is homosexual and accepts it. At the same time, he understands that this is not normal. He loves his uncle, though.
I have two smaller children who ask once in awhile why their uncle is not married, and I just explain that he has a very demanding job. They seem to accept that, but I know that one day they will know. I don’t think it’s right to impose this sort of information on a child until they are old enough to understand this. I am torn between the love I have for my brother and my personal beliefs about homosexuality in the church. He used to be very religious when he was younger and has stopped worshiping God because he feels rejected for his feelings. He tells me he resisted this for many, many years and even went to a psychiatrist. He says that he would never CHOOSE to be a homosexual; he just is. He says it is horrible to have to be overt about your sexual preferences for what people might think in a personal and professional arena. I see how this has affected my parents as well. They love their son but are torn… Would God really reject His own children?
I have two smaller children who ask once in awhile why their uncle is not married, and I just explain that he has a very demanding job. They seem to accept that, but I know that one day they will know. I don’t think it’s right to impose this sort of information on a child until they are old enough to understand this. I am torn between the love I have for my brother and my personal beliefs about homosexuality in the church. He used to be very religious when he was younger and has stopped worshiping God because he feels rejected for his feelings. He tells me he resisted this for many, many years and even went to a psychiatrist. He says that he would never CHOOSE to be a homosexual; he just is. He says it is horrible to have to be overt about your sexual preferences for what people might think in a personal and professional arena. I see how this has affected my parents as well. They love their son but are torn… Would God really reject His own children?
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East_and_West
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This is a right posited by the state. It is not an inaliable right that is intrinsic to human nature. Justice does not require that we provide an excellent liberal arts education to all people.
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vern_humphrey
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No one said it is an “inaliable right.” But in every state I know, it is a *Constitutional *right.
And Social Justice – which seeks to overcome the obstacles that keep people in poverty – does require an education for every citizen.
As to a “liberal arts education,” neither I nor any state constitution that I am familiar with calls specifically for a “liberal arts education.”
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LCMS_No_More
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It usually means things the Republican Party is against.Does “social injustice” on these boards just mean “things I don’t like” or “things I think are bad for society”? Because that is all I am picking up from many of these responses.
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LDNCatholic
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No. We cannot choose our sexual orientation, however what we do with that orientation can be a sin, which can separate us from God, by our own choice.Would God really reject His own children?
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East_and_West
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Yeah, the principles of the republican party are usually aligned with the teachings of the Church. Interesting, isn’t it?
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East_and_West
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Really? I think this is a modernist concept. There have been countless people throughout the ages that who have supported them selves without much of an education. I think education is great. But not everyone can or wants to live up to the demands of a good education and, yet these people support themselves none the less. It may be harder for them to do so, but that is a result of the choices that they have made.
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ribozyme
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Only their stance against abortion and gay marriage.
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