Sola Scriptura is True

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rinnie, Are you Cathloic getting up set and saying you Cathloics are stupid, Be careful they will say you are insuiting next,
Is this the first time you have heard the gosple according to DD and hisalone…
 
rinnie, Are you Cathloic getting up set and saying you Cathloics are stupid, Be careful they will say you are insuiting next,
Is this the first time you have heard the gosple according to DD and hisalone…
DD yes, Hisalone No. He or she is noted for contradictions. We as Catholics know that everyone will do whatever they can to condemn us. I always think of what my Dad told me.

He said Jesus was perfect and they crucified him, what do you think they will do to you.

So I figure, I have sins, and I guess Im gonna get it too. But its sad that someone would have to turn to lies about our Church and Priests just because they have the Power of the Holy Spirit and listen to what God tells them. But le them call me stupid for listening to the Pope. I believe what the bible says to go by the teachings of my early Fathers and I will stay with the Pope and listen to him until the day I die. Jesus put him in charge to teach me the truth and I am going to listen to my Holy Father.😃
 
As stated above, sin is the reason there is more than one denomination, not the scriptures or the Holy Spirit.
sins of heresy, disobedience and pride primarily.

but what if the people are sincere in their false beliefs?
 
Sola Scriptura is not the sole cause of division. There were a number of divisions before the Reformation and they have persisted. There is the Catholic Church, the Assyrian Church of the East, the Oriental Christian churches and the Orthodox. Each of these has recognized Apostolic succession and they follow Tradition. However they still do not agree.

With Protestants, the problem is not Sola Scriptura but Solo Scriptura. Sola Scriptura recognizes a role for tradition but it is not the equal of Scripture. If you look at the Protestant schools that follow Sola Scriptura you will find that there are probably no more than 10 major groupings with relatively minor differences within each grouping. While any division is undesirable the main divisions come from those who follow solo scriptura where tradition and history have virtually no place or those who feel the only independent local churches are Biblical.
Sola Scriptura relies on private interpretation. No matter how you slice it history proves that the structure of the Catholic Church fosters unity while private interpretation fosters division. that is just a fact and i think its a very important one at that. between unity and division which do you think the Holy Spirit is guiding?
 
sins of heresy, disobedience and pride primarily.

but what if the people are sincere in their false beliefs?
They are then just sincerely false.

And they, more than most, need to be instructed in the Truth… and prayed for.

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2 Timothy 3:16-17 ESV
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

Wow. I read through all of your responses and this passage is still standing strong and hasn’t even been scratched. The reason for that is becasue you really can’t do anything with it. It means what it says and it says that ALL scripture is inspired by God and equips the man of God for EVERY GOOD WORK.
I once aked several people this question: “if someone is given to drink a 500 ml glass of juice with 5 ml of poison added to it, did this person drink juice or did he drink poison?”
100 % persent of the respondents said “he did drink poison”.
The same applies here. DD2007’s misunderstand of one crucial word (“ALL”) has poisoned his otherwise good understanding of Scripures. The passage says “ALL Scripture” and he reads “ONLY Scripture”.
Oh yeah, distorting God’s Word is the same as adding to God’s word - it is dangerous.

placido
 
Sola Scriptura relies on private interpretation. No matter how you slice it history proves that the structure of the Catholic Church fosters unity while private interpretation fosters division. that is just a fact and i think its a very important one at that. between unity and division which do you think the Holy Spirit is guiding?
Everyone relies on private interpretation at some point. Why do you believe that the Catholic Church is the one true church? Unless you are relying on its its word alone, have you not interpreted Scripture and decided what the Catholic Church claims about itself is true?
 
Everyone relies on private interpretation at some point. Why do you believe that the Catholic Church is the one true church? Unless you are relying on its its word alone, have you not interpreted Scripture and decided what the Catholic Church claims about itself is true?
And here we come upon another misnomer among Protestants. The Catholic Church has not refused the right to private interpretatiion of the Sacred Scriptures to Catholics. Much of the Bible has not been codified, and given one definitive interpretation by the Church. There are some verses that the Church has defined which support Catholic doctrine, however the number is very few.

Anyone who picks up a good Catholic Bible can see for themselves some of the encouragements by the Catholic Church for Catholics to read the Bible. First there are (despite the protestations against them by Protestants) Indulgences offered to Catholics who spend at least 15-20 minutes in prayerful daily reading of the Sacred Scriptures. You will also find prayers to the Holy Spirit suggested to be prayed before and after reading the Holy Writ. No requirements that a priest stand over them and tell them what they are reading.

Now yes Catholics should and must be informed about the sense of the Scriptures that the Catholic Church has given to the Scriptures, after all did not the Ethiopian ask, how he could understand the Scriptures unless someone explain them to him? I’d rather have as my guide a Church that was founded by Jesus, and given the Authority to Teach, than someone who decided on their own everyone before them was wrong, and the secret key to the scriptures was theirs to spead.
 
DD,

I’ve never had a Catholic tell me that I was “too stupid to understand the Scriptures.”

When I began RCIA classes I was actually surprised at how open to various insights the Church is—I should more properly say that the RCIA teachers and the Priests in that setting are open to it (wouldn’t want Edwin correcting my vagueries:p)— since I’d had the impression that there was a test or something and you may be labeled a heretic if you stated a personal opinion. The opposite was the case. We were encouraged to offer our personal insights into the Scriptures for discussion.

I would suggest that it takes a certain modicum of humility for a well-educated Priest to listen to the rambling discourses of novice wanna-be theologians, as well as it is required of us to listen to many of the RCIA teachers who seem to know less about some things than my own small children.

Perhaps you would make a profoundly inspiring RCIA instructor. I’ve had a few of those as well.

All my best . . .
Hi Convert. I’m glad you have a teacher that is open to the scriptures. That is a good thing. If you take a text only version that you can mark up and start by reading the historic spine of the bible while you underline all of the verses that teach you something about God it is amazing to go back and read what you have underlined and reflect upon what you have learned. It is great to memorize the verses that had a special impact on you. That way you can always keep scripture in your heart.

Here is the chronological historic spine of the bible:

Genesis
Exodus
Numbers
Joshua
Judges
1&2 Samuel
1&2 Kings
Ezra
Nehemia
(1 Maccabees If you insist 😉 )
Luke
Acts

Then you can finish the rest of the bible while you reference all of the things you just learned from this core material. There is some more history, law, literature, poetry, wisdom, prophecy, epistles and more gospels.

I was never an RCIA teacher, but there was a time I was a sponser. I sponsered a Lutheran into the RCC. I attended class with him and answered his questions and stood with him during his reception. I was also a member of the Knights of Columbus. I’ve repented of it though and believe God has forgiven me.

God bless,

David
 
Hi Convert. I’m glad you have a teacher that is open to the scriptures. That is a good thing. If you take a text only version that you can mark up and start by reading the historic spine of the bible while you underline all of the verses that teach you something about God it is amazing to go back and read what you have underlined and reflect upon what you have learned. It is great to memorize the verses that had a special impact on you. That way you can always keep scripture in your heart.

Here is the chronological historic spine of the bible:

Genesis
Exodus
Numbers
Joshua
Judges
1&2 Samuel
1&2 Kings
Ezra
Nehemia
(1 Maccabees If you insist 😉 )
Luke
Acts

Then you can finish the rest of the bible while you reference all of the things you just learned from this core material. There is some more history, law, literature, poetry, wisdom, prophecy, epistles and more gospels.

I was never an RCIA teacher, but there was a time I was a sponser. I sponsered a Lutheran into the RCC. I attended class with him and answered his questions and stood with him during his reception. I was also a member of the Knights of Columbus. I’ve repented of it though and believe God has forgiven me.

God bless,

David
DD2007
Were you one of that Goddess worshiping, Statue worshiping, devil worshiping, and Twinkie worshiping, occult believing followers of the antichrist pope called Catholics?
😛
 
Everyone relies on private interpretation at some point. Why do you believe that the Catholic Church is the one true church? Unless you are relying on its its word alone, have you not interpreted Scripture and decided what the Catholic Church claims about itself is true?
Easy because Jesus left the Church to Peter. He told him I give you the Keys to the kingdom. Peter’s Church was the RCC. He appointed a successor to his seat, and on and on and on. So its not our inrerpretation its the truth. There is proof. Follow the history. THe POPES in Peters SEAT!

So we don’t use Privite Interpretation. Jesus said it, we believe it. He gave Peter the keys he passed them on like God told him to. Thats not private interpretation thats a fact!
 
Everyone relies on private interpretation at some point. Why do you believe that the Catholic Church is the one true church? Unless you are relying on its its word alone, have you not interpreted Scripture and decided what the Catholic Church claims about itself is true?
i rely on proven history and the teachings of the apostles.
 
Easy because Jesus left the Church to Peter. He told him I give you the Keys to the kingdom. Peter’s Church was the RCC. He appointed a successor to his seat, and on and on and on. So its not our inrerpretation its the truth. There is proof. Follow the history. THe POPES in Peters SEAT!

So we don’t use Privite Interpretation. Jesus said it, we believe it. He gave Peter the keys he passed them on like God told him to. Thats not private interpretation thats a fact!
How do you know that Jesus left the Church to Peter? Is it because you see it in Scripture? If so you are interpreting Scripture to reach the conclusion that you should accept what the Catholic Church teaches.
 
i rely on proven history and the teachings of the apostles.
How do you know the teachings of the Apostles? How do you know that the Catholic Church has those teachings unless you interpret the Scriptures to show you this?
 
I was also a member of the Knights of Columbus. I’ve repented of it though and believe God has forgiven me.
Why did you feel the need to repent of being a member of the Knights of Columbus?
 
The Church came ‘before’ the Scriptures. The apostles were on the apostolic mission before any of the evangelists started writing down the gospels and letters, weren’t they? How did those early Christians accept Christ without the totality of Scripture? These earliest of Christians accepted Christ’s teachings (orally and then written) through the apostles. . .and the apostles, the first bishops of the Catholic Church, passed this down through the ages.
 
It’s puzzling, isn’t it? Almost to a man (or woman), those who convert to the Catholic Church have nothing but good to say of their former non-Catholic practices. . .acknowledging that there was an emptiness somewhere but retaining warm memories of their fellow Christians, and usually at least acknowledging the sincerity of those non-Catholics.

Yet so many purported “ex-Catholics” spew out venom about ‘the Church’, don’t seem to have ever practiced their faith as time after time they get ‘caught’ by those who show rock solid evidence that what they ‘supposedly’ were taught was not what they claim it was; never have a kind word for the people they knew as Catholics, consistently claim the most vicious and evil motives on the parts of everyone from lisping infants to tottery grandmas as secret warriors out to annihilate the ‘real’ Christians. . .

IOW, which ones actively are LIVING the Christian life? By their fruits, as the Good Book says. . .
 
DD2007
Were you one of that Goddess worshiping, Statue worshiping, devil worshiping, and Twinkie worshiping, occult believing followers of the antichrist pope called Catholics?
😛
What a ignorant person wrote this,did this come from Jack Chick or some other idiot WOW
 
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