PR’s question is not an attempt at derailment but goes to the very heart of the discussion.
The claim of Sola Scriptura is the sufficiency of the Bible which is not itself found in the Bible and even if it were would be circular reasoning because being a book it cannot vet itself.
I wonder why it would take you so long to answer. As you noted, you had to be asked 10 times before you would answer an extremely relevant question.
Not necessarily because the Bible and Tradition go together. How the Church determined that the Bible is God breathed is based on her
Tradition because before there was ever the Bible there was only the Church and her Tradition.
And by saying that you agree that the Catholic Church is the one that declared that the Bible is God-breathed, you therefore accept her infallibility to make such a pronouncement.
So unfortunately you are caught between a rock and a hard place. There is the option of affirming that the Bible is indeed God breathed and thereby accepting the Catholic Church’s infallibility or denying her infallibility and so falling into the quandary of not knowing whether the Bible is God-breathed or not.
Ok, hypothetically suppose I agree that the CC compiled the bible. Let’s go even futher and say that I believe that the CC is infallible (I don’t). Then let’s take a look at one of the numerous scripture passages that talk of salvation. For instance
Rom.6
Romans 6
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
This talks of the new life that we need to live after we have accepted Jesus as our Lord and Savior and as v.11 goes 11Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
If we have eternal life through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, like it says in the bible what more do we need? The answer of coarse is NOTHING. We are not saved by a church. We are not saved by the bible. We are however saved by the one that the bible talks about and that is Jesus.
By the way I have answered PR and now I’m answering you for the first time again.
BTW what does this mean “book it cannot vet itself.”
