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Jeanne_S
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They are facts and I do enjoy them
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mrad25
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By massive margins, Independents say that the impeachment issue is “more important to politicians than it is to me” (62% to 22%) and “more important to the media than it is to me” (61% to 23%).
If a majority of voters are against removing President Trump from office and the number is declining week by week, reminding voters that you are the one leading the charge probably isn’t going to go over big.
If a majority of voters are against removing President Trump from office and the number is declining week by week, reminding voters that you are the one leading the charge probably isn’t going to go over big.
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Maximus1
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The fact you felt it necessary to say that casts doubt
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Jeanne_S
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Huh? Your comment makes no sense.Oh well
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Maximus1
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The other arrival by Vanity Fair was the scathing report of e mails that were revealed today.
As Schiff notified the Whitehouse of the complaint, emails show the Whitehouse scurrying to disburse.
There are reported hundreds of emails of after the fact attempts to explain why they held the money.
Just thr most awsome evidence of mens rea imaginable
As Schiff notified the Whitehouse of the complaint, emails show the Whitehouse scurrying to disburse.
There are reported hundreds of emails of after the fact attempts to explain why they held the money.
Just thr most awsome evidence of mens rea imaginable
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mrad25
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You do the first package of aid was delivered well before the call, and the second package after the Embassy review, and as in accordance with foreign policy, right? You do know Trump couldn’t hold the funds too right? He doesn’t have that authority. He doesn’t have to grant funding but he can’t withhold once approved. Final Disbursements come from the Embassy.
No. It’s a fact. It’s a fact because Trump is no threat to them. If one looks around the country, particularly college campuses, one can see who the real threat to free speech rights is. It’s the left.The free press and courts are still intact? That’s a desperate defense.
Nope. It was a historically accurate comparison.You raise scapegoating, class envy, NAzis. That is very chicken little of you.
Our status as a superpower is first and foremost based on the primacy of individual rights, followed by limited government and free markets. Our social safety net is not socialism, and it is dependent on the health of the free market economy that funds it.Our status as superpower is coextensive with our development of the mix of Capitalism and socialism of New Deal America.
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Maximus1
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I agree our social safety net is not socialism. It is socialistic.
The prevention of an American Aristocracy apparently you are not familiar with. Point is we have our own unique history that accounts for tax policy. Especially estate taxes. You don’t need to run to Nazis.
Finally his attack on the free press has been relentless. Using the power of the presidency. It really isn’t debatable
The prevention of an American Aristocracy apparently you are not familiar with. Point is we have our own unique history that accounts for tax policy. Especially estate taxes. You don’t need to run to Nazis.
Finally his attack on the free press has been relentless. Using the power of the presidency. It really isn’t debatable
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Maximus1
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I know it is reported that about 100 emails were captured. The email subject is the frenzy of Whitehouse effort to find a justification for Trump withholding the funds.
What makes the emails especially damning is the efforts to explain are clearly retroactive.
The funds were being withheld.
Then the president became aware of the Whistleblower complaint.
Then Trump quickly disbursed.
Then the Whitehouse set out to justify why the funds were held up in the first place. After the fact.
Congressman Schiff has his hands on them by now and will know where they fit in. He got his cover-up for Christmas.
What makes the emails especially damning is the efforts to explain are clearly retroactive.
The funds were being withheld.
Then the president became aware of the Whistleblower complaint.
Then Trump quickly disbursed.
Then the Whitehouse set out to justify why the funds were held up in the first place. After the fact.
Congressman Schiff has his hands on them by now and will know where they fit in. He got his cover-up for Christmas.
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You’ll produce that evidence? I haven’t even seen that on the MSM. If Biden was ordered to get Shokin fired, only Obama was in a position to order him to do it. So where’s the proof?Of course. He didn’t go rogue
It may or may not be defined as such. More importantly it has generally failed to eliminate poverty. What is reducing poverty of late is the current economy.I agree our social safety net is not socialism. It is socialistic.
Estate taxes are not in and of themselves class warfare, but the rhetoric of Warren, Sanders and others who are attacking the wealthy apparently be they are wealthy is the same kind of rhetorical attacks seen by the reds under Lenin and by the Brownshirts.The prevention of an American Aristocracy apparently you are not familiar with. Point is we have our own unique history that accounts for tax policy. Especially estate taxes. You don’t need to run to Nazis.
The power of the presidency he has used is the bully pulpit.Finally his attack on the free press has been relentless. Using the power of the presidency. It really isn’t debatable
What isn’t debatable is the president has the same free speech rights as you an me. He has exercised those rights. You may not like what he says about the media, but a lot of Americans agree with him. And rightfully so.
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Can you imagine Pence doing it rogue? It is absurd.
So far the evidence has spoken about the consensus in the administration, men of Congress from both parties, and our NATO allies publically calling for the guys firing, before Biden went.
So far the evidence has spoken about the consensus in the administration, men of Congress from both parties, and our NATO allies publically calling for the guys firing, before Biden went.
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Maximus1
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Again, you go brownshirts.
In our own country you had WILLIAMS JENNINGS BRYANT, in the late 1800, the people’s party. The WWW. TRUTH is, the height of actual socialism in America came 100 years ago and more. Bernie is a blip in comparison.
Of course this takes us back to the last gilded age. You had child labor and events like the Ludlow massacre, or Frick opening up fire on workers with Pinkertons at US STEEL, and many other atrocities. The nation is slipping into another gilded age, and will need correction if the American experiment is expected to last
In our own country you had WILLIAMS JENNINGS BRYANT, in the late 1800, the people’s party. The WWW. TRUTH is, the height of actual socialism in America came 100 years ago and more. Bernie is a blip in comparison.
Of course this takes us back to the last gilded age. You had child labor and events like the Ludlow massacre, or Frick opening up fire on workers with Pinkertons at US STEEL, and many other atrocities. The nation is slipping into another gilded age, and will need correction if the American experiment is expected to last
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Maximus1
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The free speech right is not the same as you and me. A president indulging his right has national consequences. War can start and the institutions that make us America can be destroyed. This is not the same as you and me.
And I don’t care that people are OK with America’s demise. I wouldn’t have cared about what Tories think. Crown sympathizers. Trump reminds us a great deal of America is ok with Authoritarianism.
Get things done.
Make them " right"
Willing to give up the ship for it.
And I don’t care that people are OK with America’s demise. I wouldn’t have cared about what Tories think. Crown sympathizers. Trump reminds us a great deal of America is ok with Authoritarianism.
Get things done.
Make them " right"
Willing to give up the ship for it.
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Ridgerunner
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Perhaps there was nothing “rogue” about it. The Obama administration knew Burisma was corrupt, and knew Hunter Biden worked for it at a preposterous salary. Seems likely to me the Obama administration just didn’t care.Can you imagine Pence doing it rogue? It is absurd.
I have seen third and fourth hand references to this, but nothing first hand. Fact is that Shokin has not been charged with anything in any country. But the head of Burisma sure has.So far the evidence has spoken about the consensus in the administration, men of Congress from both parties, and our NATO allies publically calling for the guys firing, before Biden went.
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Ridgerunner
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The greater threat is a permanent bureaucracy that defies the elected officials and lies to courts in order to spy on Americans.The nation is slipping into another gilded age, and will need correction if the American experiment is expected to last
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Maximus1
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This question about a professional bureaucracy has also been vetted. There was infinitely more Curruption without it. There was infinitely more incompetence without it. Civil service and bureaucracy was reform.
What’s interesting is your statement.
" That defies elected officials."
It is the new catechism of Trumpism. Because it means greater authoritarian control for a sovereign. It is funny how conversations like this are a reminder of the Curruption going on. People want to believe their president.What do you do when his ambition is to be like Putin or Kim.
What’s interesting is your statement.
" That defies elected officials."
It is the new catechism of Trumpism. Because it means greater authoritarian control for a sovereign. It is funny how conversations like this are a reminder of the Curruption going on. People want to believe their president.What do you do when his ambition is to be like Putin or Kim.
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Ridgerunner
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Democrats accuse Trump of being a dictator but are never able to demonstrate the assertion. Perhaps you will be the first to do so.This question about a professional bureaucracy has also been vetted. There was infinitely more Curruption without it. There was infinitely more incompetence without it. Civil service and bureaucracy was reform.
What’s interesting is your statement.
" That defies elected officials."
It is the new catechism of Trumpism. Because it means greater authoritarian control for a sovereign. It is funny how conversations like this are a reminder of the Curruption going on. People want to believe their president.What do you do when his ambition is to be like Putin or Kim.
Bureaucracy is not, of itself, meritorious. The worst governments in history; the Soviet, the Maoist, Castroite were all very heavy bureaucracies. It’s like any human institution in that it can become self-serving and corrupt. And as I think the Durham investigation will likely show, our own time has not been spared of it.
One good thing about elected officials is that they are easily removed. Entrenched bureaucrats cannot be.
And reds, because it is the same tactic. Drum up envy and scapegoat. If you don’t like the tactic, join me in condemning it.Again, you go brownshirts.
Thank you for agreeing with me about how evil Wilson was.The WWW. TRUTH is, the height of actual socialism in America came 100 years ago and more. Bernie is a blip in comparison.
America’s demise will happen at the hands of progressives. A generation ago, Reagan said “liberals”. Oh, that we had actual liberals again.And I don’t care that people are OK with America’s demise. I
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