Not so. The horrendous torture was carried out by the governments; I will give you that. The obsession with heresies, heretics and going after non-Catholics was pure Church-led. I’m not sure where you are getting the revisionist history, but it’s not accurate.
The Inquisition did not target non-Catholics.
In a sense, the Inquisitions did go after non-Catholics, if Protestants and Cathars and other Christian heretics are understood as non-Catholics.
Either you were a converso or you were subject to expulsion. And the conversos were highly suspicious for being duplicitous.In a sense, the Inquisitions did go after non-Catholics, if Protestants and Cathars and other Christian heretics are understood as non-Catholics.
The Inquisitions did not go after, say, religious Jews* or Muslims, and were specifically forbidden to do so (and why should they? The Inquisition was tasked with keeping order within the Church: Muslims and Jews are by definition outside of it). So, with qualifications, you are correct: the Inquisitions did not go after non-Catholics.
Christi pax,
Lucretius
St. Augustine, pray for us!
*The Inquisition (especially in Spain) did go after ethnical Jews (as opposed to religious Jews: Jews who practice what we call today Orthodox Judaism, as opposed to those of any religion with Jewishness ancestory), however, especially those who “converted” to Christianity for the society benefits. In their defense, it was hard to be a Jew in Spain in the 16th century
Yes
, but not because of some sort of revenge tactic. Justice is not revenge, and forgiveness doesn’t involve vengeance. One of the worse parts of our culture is the equation of ruthless revenge (sometimes collectively) with true Justice.Very well said. I know nothing makes me run away faster in the other direction than when fingers are pointed and accusing words are cast at me. Those actions have never been of any help to me whatsoever along my walk and never will be. I’d much rather be treated graciously, with kindness, and fully welcomed and loved as I am and as I come, with my warts and all. Those are the actions that attract me and the ones I look for.
Wish I had their baseball team. Every yr or at least every other they are contenders.
If ISIS were to do it, does this mean you think ISIS is working with God and God is using ISIS to destroy?
San Francisco is a beautiful (and alas, expensive) city, with kind and compassionate people. The world is represented in its residents. My church is in the city, and we are a welcoming, giving community. There is music in San Francisco. There is baseball. There is always room for one more person. I would not live anywhere else. God is truly in this place. I meet him every day.
This confuses me unless I’m wrong and every teacher in every Catholic school has always practiced Catholic teaching.
They did (practice Catholic teaching) at my grade school and high school. I think they got hired after being screened for that. What is so confusing about that? How old are you, anyway?
Well I’ve never been but I’m not too surprised of all that. And those Golden State Warriors are just across the bay, right? World champions. Which pains me to say. But there’s always next yr.
I’m getting somewhat old so maybe my memory is faulty on this. But I sure thought I knew of Catholic schools where all of the teachers were not Catholics.
I don’t know, in certain instances, I think being “told as it is” would be beneficial to some people. Many people don’t react and change their ways until something permanently bad happens to them. Sometimes an alcoholic has to be put in the hospital for a car accident before he realizes the full culpability of his actions, and that he must change them.
).God did use pagans to punish Israel…
If they excuse or worse approve of sin then they are not kind. In fact they practice the worst of all cruelties in allowing souls to fall into Hell. For goodness sake, the saints described the souls falling into Hell as being so numerous it was like snowflakes, and it was because of that kind of “let it be” attitude.
Which is way I love my Catholic faith and feel very blessed to live it!
This entire discussion from someone telling an Anglican (with no offense of course)God did use pagans to punish Israel…
I hope God does punish us: it means He cares enough about us to knock it in our heads and remind us that our actions can only lead to our doom. If He didn’t punish us, it could be taken as a sign that He was leaving us to burn in the Hell fire we are fueling
Christi pax,
Lucretius
St. Augustine, pray for us!
that he or she lives in a cesspool dump of filth and someone saying that as Sodom and Gomorrah we are asking to be destroyed and it will probably be by Isis… What!? 
and now this, that God did use pagans for punishment and the hope is that we are punished… is all just too mindboggling to me for me to say anything more. :hypno: