St. Monica pray for us! Praying for our husbands....

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As long as their is a third person in the equasion, there is no chance for reconciliation between them. The fact that he has gone back and forth, and that it was a stripper, i would be very concerned with. Her dirty body (not the sin, but the germ) is something that she has to evaluate. Should she actually risk her life, and the future parenting she does as a mom to put the marriage first. Especially when he let her know that he is not willing, but when she is convenient, he might work on it. Basically he gets it every where he plunks his butt.

Remember, to sleep with him again means she would have to resign herself to be sleeping with every other parter the stripper ever had, as well as what each might be contributing to the gene pool and STD contributors!

I vote no bed to be shared…as for the marriage, that is a personal decision…just to watch her health, and not to be used.

Lana…praying for her dearly! Her boys see him as a role model, how very sad!
 
Lamb_Serenade said:
Hello all. I am posting this prayer request here and I want to emphasize prayer is desperately needed.

I participate on the forums at CCF and a very desperate woman has been posting there for prayers and advice. I told her I was going to ask all of you to add your strong wonderful prayers to your petitions. Below is her post on the other forum so you know what she is up against.
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😦 How sad. Including this woman (and all of you of course) in my prayer…

PRAYER TO ST. MONICA

Dear St. Monica,
troubled wife and mother,
many sorrows pierced your heart during your lifetime.
Yet, you never despaired or lost faith.
With confidence, persistence, and profound faith,
you prayed daily for the conversion
of your beloved husband, Patricius,
and your beloved son, Augustine;
your prayers were answered.
Grant me that same fortitude, patience,
and trust in the Lord.
Intercede for me, dear St. Monica,
that God may favorably hear my plea for

(personal intentions)

and grant me the grace to accept His Will in all things,
through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, forever and ever.

Amen.

:grouphug:
 
I would not sleep with this man either. I’d probably get tested for STD’s, AIDS, etc. (just to be on the safe side). I would DEFINITELY talk to a good priest about this. I don’t know if there is hope in reconciliation or not - it’s very TOUGH. We are all praying very hard for you!

Our Father
Hail Mary
Glory Be

Love,
Judi
 
Definitely a priest could lead her best, and i was not clear if she had slept with her husband after or durring the affair and had not thought of the testing, but this is definitely a good thing to do.

There is a very fine line personally to decide if another person should leave, seperate or so on, and better to be left in the arms and shoulder of her priest. How sad…i have been cheated on in two major relationships i have had in my life, and it is the bases for why i insist on truth of many matters in life so strictly, no matter if it will hurt me. There is nothing worse than living with the fact that many years will always cast doubt on your own personal judgement of situations, mostly because you did not see something comming.

My current husband does not cheat with another man/woman (both have happened with my ex’s) but his long standing affair with the beer bottle hurts as deeply. I never thought it might, but over time, i have to say, that when anything pulls you away from your commitment, and leaves the other so alone, it is just as hard on the heart.

Lana
 
I wanted to respond to Judi’s and Lana’s advice for Ingrid at CCF. The exact same advice and suggestions you have given to her has been given to her by many others on her thread and on two or three of her other threads pertaining to the same situation. I am so sad and scared for her because she definitely needs to set some boundaries. She is intent on staying in the marriage, and I can’t blame or judge her for that, only offer advice to help her make good decisions inside the marriage from this point forward.

As I said, she needs to have heaven stormed with an abundance of prayers for her, her children and her husband. May she have peace and clarity, may her children be kept from the harm of the negative example their father has given them, and may her husband have a Paul moment when he is struck with the knowledge of what he has done and what he needs to do to save his marriage AND himself.
 
Lamb,

AMEN to that. I will pray for her and keep her in my rosaries.

Blessings to all,
Judi
 
Personally, i would tell her that talking to a priest will help her organize things. I was helped to see the light when my priest had refered to my husbands affair with beer to be neglectful to family.

I do not know how to explain it…it helped reduce the guilt i was holding on to at the marriage not working, and take the responsibility of his actions and place them back onto his person for drinking. It helped me make better decisions in the marriage when the guilt was placed properly on the one who “should” feel guilty.

Somehow, his (the priests) support in making me a stronger daughter of christ made soooo much more sense, and strength in me. I can indure better, and fall apart less…therefore i make better decisions.

Lana
 
Lambie…the lengths you go to to help other lost lambs is astounding…God loves his little Lambie!

Lana
 
Belle hunny, do you know the amount of time St. Monica waited faithfully for her answers for husband and son’s conversion?
Lana

PRAYER TO ST. MONICA

Dear St. Monica,
troubled wife and mother,
many sorrows pierced your heart during your lifetime.
Yet, you never despaired or lost faith.
With confidence, persistence, and profound faith,
you prayed daily for the conversion
of your beloved husband, Patricius,
and your beloved son, Augustine;
your prayers were answered.
Grant me that same fortitude, patience,
and trust in the Lord.
Intercede for me, dear St. Monica,
that God may favorably hear my plea for

(personal intentions)

and grant me the grace to accept His Will in all things,
through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, forever and ever.

Amen.
 
Lamb_Serenade said:
As I said, she needs to have heaven stormed with an abundance of prayers for her, her children and her husband. May she have peace and clarity, may her children be kept from the harm of the negative example their father has given them, and may her husband have a Paul moment when he is struck with the knowledge of what he has done and what he needs to do to save his marriage AND himself.
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Amen. :crossrc:
Rammy said:
Personally, i would tell her that talking to a priest will help her organize things. I was helped to see the light when my priest had refered to my husbands affair with beer to be neglectful to family.Lana
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I’ve never heard it put that way, but it makes perfect sense. I have a family member who is an alcoholic and I’m going to use this example – maybe it will help get through to this person. (it’s not my DH, thankfully :o )
Rammy said:
Belle hunny, do you know the amount of time St. Monica waited faithfully for her answers for husband and son’s conversion?

Well, according one source (saints.sqpn.com/saintm04.htm) her husband converted on his deathbed, and according to another source (americancatholic.org/Features/SaintOfDay/default.asp?id=1120) he converted one year before his death. Either way, it was a long time if you look at when St. Monica was born and died (if you figure how long they were probably married).

As far as St. Augustine’s conversion, that happened in 387 – the same year St. Monica died.

I was searching for a quote I’d heard, and found it (bolded) here:
For years she begged clergy to convince him to turn away from his way of life. She was told by one bishop that “the heart of this young man is at present too stubborn, but God’s time will come”. When she persisted the bishop dismissed her with the words, “Go now, I beg of you; **it is not possible that the son of so many tears should perish.” **
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Thinking and praying for us all today.

PRAYER TO ST. MONICA

Dear St. Monica,
troubled wife and mother,
many sorrows pierced your heart during your lifetime.
Yet, you never despaired or lost faith.
With confidence, persistence, and profound faith,
you prayed daily for the conversion
of your beloved husband, Patricius,
and your beloved son, Augustine;
your prayers were answered.
Grant me that same fortitude, patience,
and trust in the Lord.
Intercede for me, dear St. Monica,
that God may favorably hear my plea for

(personal intentions)

and grant me the grace to accept His Will in all things,
through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, forever and ever.

Amen.
 
The following is taken from A MANUAL OF PRAYERS for the use of the Catholic Laity

Nine Ways of Being Accessory to Another’s Sin:
By silence
By defense of the ill done
By partaking
By counsel
By command
By consent
By provocation
By praise or flattery
By concealment

The Spiritual Works of Mercy:
To admonish the sinner
To instruct the ignorant
To counsel the doubtful
To comfort the sorrowful
To bear wrongs patiently
To forgive all injuries
To pray for the living and the dead

Sins Crying to Heaven for Vengeance:
Willful murder (note: that includes abortion and infanticide)
The sin of Sodom (note: homosexuality, pedophilia)
Oppression of the poor
Defrauding laborers of their wages

Three Eminent Good Works:
Prayer
Fasting
Almsgiving

St. Monica, pray for us
St. Augustine, pray for us

This was taken from the last source you posted in the previous post. I found it to be enchantingly enlightening to read and ponder.

I know that in ways i contribute to the lifestyle my DH leads. Even though i pray for his conversion and release from addictions, there are other reasons we tend to unwillingly realize we are enabeling this condition.

Reading the actual list and pondering how or if i contribute to this condition and state my husband is in, i want to learn how not to enhance this, and become stronger for him if i can not convince him otherwise.

I hope this makes sense, but seeing the list, i was able to examine my own conscience here. I thank you Belle for this link, and i do hope i do not have to wait untill the last year of my existance to see the results of this, but His will be done.

Lana
 
I am SO glad you posted this! It’s made me examine my conscience also. I wish dh would examine his conscience in the same way. But he still does not see the Light. I pray that he will soon. Thank you, and God bless us all!

Judi
 
Rammy said:
I hope this makes sense, but seeing the list, i was able to examine my own conscience here. I thank you Belle for this link, and i do hope i do not have to wait untill the last year of my existance to see the results of this, but His will be done.

Lana
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Well, I can’t take credit for that link really – all I did was a search for the quote I was looking for (about so many tears) and I found that site. Holy Spirit anyone? 😉 😃

I too hope that I don’t have to wait until the last year of my existence to see my DH come home, but like you said, His will be done.

PRAYER TO ST. MONICA

Dear St. Monica,
troubled wife and mother,
many sorrows pierced your heart during your lifetime.
Yet, you never despaired or lost faith.
With confidence, persistence, and profound faith,
you prayed daily for the conversion
of your beloved husband, Patricius,
and your beloved son, Augustine;
your prayers were answered.
Grant me that same fortitude, patience,
and trust in the Lord.
Intercede for me, dear St. Monica,
that God may favorably hear my plea for

(personal intentions)

and grant me the grace to accept His Will in all things,
through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, forever and ever.

Amen.

:grouphug:
 
PRAYER TO ST. MONICA

Dear St. Monica,
troubled wife and mother,
many sorrows pierced your heart during your lifetime.
Yet, you never despaired or lost faith.
With confidence, persistence, and profound faith,
you prayed daily for the conversion
of your beloved husband, Patricius,
and your beloved son, Augustine;
your prayers were answered.
Grant me that same fortitude, patience,
and trust in the Lord.
Intercede for me, dear St. Monica,
that God may favorably hear my plea for

(personal intentions)

and grant me the grace to accept His Will in all things,
through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, forever and ever.

Amen.

:grouphug:
 
Jesus please help my sisters in their journeys and tribulations, and when they are sad, desperate, or bored. Please flood them with Your graces.

St Monica please intercede for us, our husbands, our families
 
PRAYER TO ST. MONICA

Dear St. Monica,
troubled wife and mother,
many sorrows pierced your heart during your lifetime.
Yet, you never despaired or lost faith.
With confidence, persistence, and profound faith,
you prayed daily for the conversion
of your beloved husband, Patricius,
and your beloved son, Augustine;
your prayers were answered.
Grant me that same fortitude, patience,
and trust in the Lord.
Intercede for me, dear St. Monica,
that God may favorably hear my plea for

(personal intentions)

and grant me the grace to accept His Will in all things,
through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, forever and ever.

Amen.

:grouphug:
 
Good-afternoon Bell darlin…thanks for the lovely prayer…

Bombarded with kiddie sleepover…mess
It began with a mess we had to clean up to prepare for it.
And now i can see, it is way worse than the orriginal mess.
Payoff was me sleeping in untill noon…but…
Consequences will be playing the most unpopular warden.
(for cleanup)

I will revert all prayers towards patience if you will…just for the next 4 hours for the 1 hour cleanup that will take the full 4.

:rolleyes:
 
Rammy said:
Good-afternoon Bell darlin…thanks for the lovely prayer…

Bombarded with kiddie sleepover…mess
It began with a mess we had to clean up to prepare for it.
And now i can see, it is way worse than the orriginal mess.
Payoff was me sleeping in untill noon…but…
Consequences will be playing the most unpopular warden.
(for cleanup)

I will revert all prayers towards patience if you will…just for the next 4 hours for the 1 hour cleanup that will take the full 4.

:rolleyes:
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Hi Lana,
My daughter isn’t old enough yet to have sleepovers, but I remember the messes we used to make as kids! 😃 But, like you said, at least you got to sleep in…and I’m sure your daughters had fun. Hope the cleanup went well. 🙂

PRAYER TO ST. MONICA

Dear St. Monica,
troubled wife and mother,
many sorrows pierced your heart during your lifetime.
Yet, you never despaired or lost faith.
With confidence, persistence, and profound faith,
you prayed daily for the conversion
of your beloved husband, Patricius,
and your beloved son, Augustine;
your prayers were answered.
Grant me that same fortitude, patience,
and trust in the Lord.
Intercede for me, dear St. Monica,
that God may favorably hear my plea for

(personal intentions)

and grant me the grace to accept His Will in all things,
through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, forever and ever.

Amen.

:grouphug:
 
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