St Teresa of Avila - in Catholic Tradition

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You give so much to think about. You obviously learned well. So mind if I ask, have you found a good way to apply all of this, to not be static? I get the point about attachment, but applying it is difficult for me.
As I always say about me, I’m not sure how much I learned. I’d like to think that I was a good student. Though I also realize that compared to other people, I can barely read and write. I try to do what I can with the little that I know.

How do I apply this to daily life?

First, I learned from the Spiritual Masters to live the grace of the present moment. Each day in our lives is a day of grace. God does not keep us alive for his entertainment or four our own either. He allows us to wake up so that he can share his divine life with us, through grace. It is important that we take advantage of every moment of grace throughout the day and throughout life.

I’ll give you some highlights from my own life. Your highlights are going to be different.

I was married and father of three. There was an accident. My wife, oldest son and father were killed. I was left alone with a 9-year old daughter and 4-year old autistic son. I was terrified. I finally threw myself into God’s hands and said, “I accept what you give and I willingly let go of what you take.” From that point forward there were two goals that I had to fulfill. The first was to find a way to be there for my kids. At the funeral, as we were walking into the church behind the three coffins, I was holding each by their little hands. My daughter on my right and my son on my left. I felt their little hands shaking in the palm of my hands. I whispered to them, “Don’t be afraid. I promise I will not leave you alone.”

I had to fulfill that promise. To do that, I had to change jobs to one with less responsibilities, but also less money. That’s how I ended up teaching at the university. Professors do not make as much money as practioners. That meant that I could not keep the house and three cars that we had either. Those had to go.

My son had autism. Everyone said that he would be dependent all of his life. I had to do something. My father was gone. My mother was getting old and my parent’s in law were also aging. The only person left was his sister, who was five years older than he. I also wanted her to be free to live her life. I had to do whatever I could to free this boy from the silence of autism, so that he could be independent.

That meant more spending on therapies, special schools, tutors, special programs. I had to sell my house and move into a rental. I had to sell my big car and buy a compact. I had to make the time to take him to this therapy, that class, the other tutor and to spend time with his sister, and care for my home.

Fast forward. Today, she’s a psychiatrist and he’s an illustrator. They are independent adults. They own a home.

Now they were adults and I had to close that chapter. Now where?

I realized that there were not enough children like my son in this world. I started to look for kids like him and found that they were being aborted. I decided to enter religious life and be a brother to the voiceless. I became very involved in developing programs for people with disabilities, helping expectant parents to keep their babies. I would tell them my son’s story and I would repeat to them what I had told my children at the funeral. “Don’t be afraid. I won’t leave you alone.” I would remain with these people until they delivered their babies and even longer.

I visited South America and found out that they have a high index of disabilities, but not enough priests trained in the pastoral care of people with disabilities and their families. I went there to start a program in Christian Human Ecology. It teaches priests, catechists, brothers and sisters how to shape their parish communities and their catholic institutions in such a way that people with disabilities and those who have loved ones with disabilities can find Christ, rather than shy away.

I came back home from the missions to find out that I have Leukemia and congestive heart disease. Now they found out that I am also losing my kidneys. I forgot to mention that I’m diabetic. Long story short (too late), I again threw myself into the hands of God. I cried out “Help me, I’m drowning.” This was Peter’s cry as he tried to walk on water and lost faith. I often feel as if I’m walking on water and then sinking.

I struggle with sin. I have this thing going with the Blessed Mother. I sat there one day and told her, “I’m going to haunt you until you help me attain the grace to sin no more.” I pray to her several times a day. I say the rosary, ejaculations, spontaneous prayers and whatever else I can throw at her. She my mother, she can handle it.

That’s it. I don’t know what else I can say. I wish I could be more helpful. That’s how I try to live detachment, one day at a time, one event at a time.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
 
That’s it. I don’t know what else I can say. I wish I could be more helpful. That’s how I try to live detachment, one day at a time, one event at a time.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
Please write a book. I think that God will use it to bring a lot of souls to him.
 
Please write a book. I think that God will use it to bring a lot of souls to him.
I’ve made this request several (several!) times, but I think Brother can only write a book at this point if he gets asked from the order.

Now, if Brother JR would let certain people (me) compile his posts in an organized fashion, that would be nice.

(Hint hint).
 
I’ve made this request several (several!) times, but I think Brother can only write a book at this point if he gets asked from the order.

Now, if Brother JR would let certain people (me) compile his posts in an organized fashion, that would be nice.

(Hint hint).
That sounds like an excellent idea!
 
I’ve made this request several (several!) times, but I think Brother can only write a book at this point if he gets asked from the order.

Now, if Brother JR would let certain people (me) compile his posts in an organized fashion, that would be nice.

(Hint hint).
For the third time in this thread, I’m seconding a motion!

Or we could ask his order to ask him to write a book? Seriously, Brother JR, you do so much good here and have obviously done good other places as well. Even if you have to write anonymously, it would be a way to help others grow in Christ.
 
There is no rule or law that says that I can’t write a book. In fact, a few Secular Franciscans have asked me to publish the lessons that I give them every month. The problem is me. I write a lot of essays on different subjects in spirituality. After I write them, I go back and look at them and don’t like them. Everyone else likes them, but I start to find fault with them. “I should have said this or not said that. I could have said it better.” I have a folder in my computer with over 100 essays. Someday, I’ll find someone who wants to read them and who will help me edit them.

I truly feel that I don’t have much to say. As I was telling a very dear CAF friend the other night. I’m thinking of finding something else to do when I’m sick, because I think that there is not much more that I can contribute to the CAF community.

This whole CAF involvement started when I started to get sick. There were days when I would be unable to go teach. I would be alone for hours. I became very lonely. After a while, I felt that I was drifting away from God.

I was Catholic and Franciscan, but that did not fill me, because my teaching was my life. I live in an experimental community. We’re a young community. It’s not like one of the large orders that has a mother house with 100 guys in it. In an emerging community you’re in houses with two and three people. When the others go out to ministry, there is no one but you and God.

To shorten the story, I was navigating the internet and out of pure curiosity, so I thought, I wrote www.catholic.com into the address bar and discovered Catholic Answers. I browsed around and I saw the sub-forum, Traditional Catholicism and another Spirituality. Hmmm, that sounds interesting.

I have to throw in a disclaimer. I am not a Traditionalist as one would say about the SSPX. I have a great love for Catholic Tradition and anything Catholic, this includes the Extraordinary Form of the Mass, liturgical music, but also other expressions of Catholicism such as the mystics, the great doctors, our history, great movements in the Church, even Liberation Theology and all those movements that came into existence in the 20th century.

I see them all as part of the big picture that makes up the Church, her history and her tradition. To me, the rightness of wrongness of some of these movements is important, but more important is the response to them from the Church and the fact that even when they were wrong, they did something good for the Church. They rattled us out of complacency. It’s dangerous to get too comfortable. That’s when the sin of presumption kicks. “Everything is alright right now, so I must be alright.” NOOOOOOOT.

I digress . . . I joined CAF and started to participate in the Spirituality and TC Forums. The real kicker came in 2009. I spent almost 6 months in and out of hospitals. That year, I remember being discharged from the hospital and returning four days later. I was away from my post so much, that it was impossible to keep it. They needed someone who could be there to run the program. I agreed to finish the contract year, but not renew it.

I was devastated. My life was torn away. I had always planned on retiring from the world of academics, but I did not plan on getting so sick that I would have to stop abruptly without saying goodbye to my friends, colleagues, students and significant people whom God had put in my way all those years. I can’t tell you how torn I was. I still cry as I write about it. I am convinced that these are the narrow gates of which Jesus speaks. It’s not some silly thing such as praying the rosary while kneeling on raw rice or some bizarre thing like that. The narrow gates or the narrow path to heaven is the one that you would not choose for yourself, but God puts you on it. You can yield to him or you can rebel and say, “Non serviam.”

Here I was, the more time that I spend in bed and hours alone, the more involved I became with CAF. It became my ministry. When I’m not running around, because I’m not feeling strong enough, I do this ministry. Providentially, the Holy Father came out with a statement about evangelizing through the Internet.

But as I said to my dear dear CAF friend, I’m only a simply country boy who can barely read and write. There are only so many things that I can answer. I have been wondering, if I am reaching my plateau. When that happens, it will be time to do something different. I’m just not sure what.

I believe that the real grace of the Dark Night is that there is a part that involves the will. When all seems as dark as a night without a moon to light the heavens and without stars to guide our way, we dare step into the night holding on to the hand of God, like a child trusting his father who knows the way to the light, because he is light. God can give us the grace of the Dark Night, but it will be wasted grace, if we do not willingly step into the darkness holding God’s hand.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I truly feel that I don’t have much to say. As I was telling a very dear CAF friend the other night. I’m thinking of finding something else to do when I’m sick, because I think that there is not much more that I can contribute to the CAF community.
I hope you keep contributing. In this thread alone, in your latest comment alone, you have moved me deeply and given me much to think about.

I do hope you put your words into book form. I’m certain there are people who could be brought further along the path to holiness with your help.

I am a professional writer, though I do not have nearly your way with words. But if you are ever looking for somebody who can edit, if you don’t already know somebody, PM me. Though I say that with all selfishness because what I really want is to learn more from you! In reading your posts, I have a suspicion your work requires very little editing. Maybe you just need someone with the motivation and dedication to put it all together, somebody who could show you just where those things you don’t like are still useful.

I am grateful for your participation on this thread. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
 
I hope you keep contributing. In this thread alone, in your latest comment alone, you have moved me deeply and given me much to think about.

I do hope you put your words into book form. I’m certain there are people who could be brought further along the path to holiness with your help.

I am a professional writer, though I do not have nearly your way with words. But if you are ever looking for somebody who can edit, if you don’t already know somebody, PM me. Though I say that with all selfishness because what I really want is to learn more from you! In reading your posts, I have a suspicion your work requires very little editing. Maybe you just need someone with the motivation and dedication to put it all together, somebody who could show you just where those things you don’t like are still useful.

I am grateful for your participation on this thread. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
I do technical and business writing as a part of my job, and creative writing on the side. I’m with Incomplete - I think it’d be easy to compile what you have posted here and make it a very cohesive piece. I’d love to help with that.

You add a lot to this community Brother JR, and I know we would all be much the poorer for it if you left. You’ve helped several people with their vocational discernment, with myself being one of them. Your expertise on Catholic spirituality has changed peoples lives. This thread alone is an example of this.

You’re being too humble, my friend. Your work is outstanding, and you’d be doing an even further disservice by not getting it archived or compiled. Again, look no further than the vocations. I’m going to be a Dominican thanks to your guidance and wisdom, and that’s a pretty big deal.
 
I do technical and business writing as a part of my job, and creative writing on the side. I’m with Incomplete - I think it’d be easy to compile what you have posted here and make it a very cohesive piece. I’d love to help with that.

You add a lot to this community Brother JR, and I know we would all be much the poorer for it if you left. You’ve helped several people with their vocational discernment, with myself being one of them. Your expertise on Catholic spirituality has changed peoples lives. This thread alone is an example of this.

You’re being too humble, my friend. Your work is outstanding, and you’d be doing an even further disservice by not getting it archived or compiled. Again, look no further than the vocations. I’m going to be a Dominican thanks to your guidance and wisdom, and that’s a pretty big deal.
You have made me very happy. This message is like a treasure. Those of you who can’t become religious, but have not thought about it, try exploring the different secular orders.

But never forget to love as Jesus and his mother love. They love us, warts and all. Don’t look for perfection in these different communities, look for the Gospel.

I will think about taking up your kind offers to help me put together a book on spiritual essays. I wouldn’t even know how to find a publisher. Give me a few a days to think about it. It’s a little scary.😊

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
 
Give me a few a days to think about it. It’s a little scary.😊
Self-publication is an option.
Those of you who can’t become religious, but have not thought about it, try exploring the different secular orders.
It’s nice to have a very knowledgeable, bona fide Franciscan active on this forum, so that is also something positive about your ministry.

You know, I never looked at it this way, but like Melchior, you are also the reason that I have any interest in religious orders at all, starting with my introduction to Franciscan spirituality through the Perfect Joy of St Francis.

I’m not rushing into anything, but I am fairly certain that I’m being called to a secular order. I’m just not sure which one. I am going to check out the OCDS in a couple of weeks as a “visitor” and I know a woman who is in the formation stage of becoming a secular Dominican, so I might ask to visit one of her meetings too. 😃

And Brother Jay regarding the Secular Franciscans, hook a sister up!

And with that, I’m off to choir practice!
 
I will think about taking up your kind offers to help me put together a book on spiritual essays. I wouldn’t even know how to find a publisher. Give me a few a days to think about it. It’s a little scary.😊

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
As has been said, self-publishing is an option. But putting together a book proposal for publishers is also an option. There are some good Catholic publishers who I suspect would love your book.
 
You know, I never looked at it this way, but like Melchior, you are also the reason that I have any interest in religious orders at all, starting with my introduction to Franciscan spirituality through the Perfect Joy of St Francis.
I spent seven years knowing I was called to a secular order, what had me stalled was figuring which one I was called to. Brother JR’s wisdom was absolutely vital in helping me discern between the Franciscans and the Dominicans, and I couldn’t be happier with the peace I have in my heart.

Brother JR, you might also like to know that thanks to you I was able to explain to my wife about the differences between Franciscans and Dominicans, and the role of secular orders in the Church. She is going to look into it at the same time as my formation, which means it’s very possible you had a hand in forming a secular Dominican household. I also ran a workshop at my Church’s Life Teen about spirituality, much if it inspired by your posts here.

You, sir, are performing great things in the name of the Lord. I implore you to continue posting here, and I’m thrilled you are going to look at some publishing.
 
I will think about taking up your kind offers to help me put together a book on spiritual essays. I wouldn’t even know how to find a publisher. Give me a few a days to think about it. It’s a little scary.😊

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
*Dear Br. Jay,…

I remember when I first came to CAF I believed, as I still believe now, that I had found a treasure trove in the spiritual nourishment I received from reading your posts. It was like my very parched and starving soul had been waiting for years to read what you wrote. I found it to be the nourishment that I had been longing for and had all but giving up hope that I would ever find in this life.
I still believe now, as I did when I first found you at CAF and as others on this thread attest to, we really need you because of how God speaks to us through you. I do believe, even more strongly now than I did before, that so many more poor lost and starving souls out there could really use what you have to say.
Even though you did inspire me to check out one secular order and I have considered checking out a couple of others, I have come to understand that it just does not seem to be in God’s plan for me right now, but you have still helped me and my husband in our spiritual life’s in more ways than I could ever adequately explain and for this I am eternally grateful for. One of the things that has helped me the most is simply just praying the LOTHs. It was after reading one of your posts somewhere explaining what they are that lead me to start praying them daily. Well almost daily.
So I will add my prayers to those that I am sure are already being said that you do take up the kind offers and that God’s hand is leading you to write and if He is leading you to write, that you remember how Blessed John Paul II stood up and proclaimed that a brother proclaims the mission of the Church and that no matter how scary it is I pray that you find the trust and confidence you need to follow Him, because like I told Him a couple years ago, we so need you to help us navigate through all the chaos and confusion we find ourselves living in these days…
Even though I would hate to see you leave CAF, I would understand that it would be because God needs you someplace else. Hopefully, maybe, you could still do both?..If not…I will just say as St. Clair said to St. Francis,…“Run Br. Jay, and don’t look back!”
With our continued love and prayers for you, yours and your mission,… *
 
You have made me very happy. This message is like a treasure. Those of you who can’t become religious, but have not thought about it, try exploring the different secular orders.
I will be exploring lay Cistercian/Trappist early next year, and have recently started looking at others. I’ll be meeting with the Church regarding diaconate as well, but am unsure if I am enough of a “Christian Gentleman” to pull that one off. :rolleyes:

Whatever happens, God’s will be done.

One thing is for sure, Brother, that I want to give my life to God, who has been so patient with me, in some concrete way. I don’t know what that will look like, but you are an inspiration to me, and part of the reason why.

I often wonder if years from now, if third orders will lead to some kind of renaissance in the church, or renewed spirituality and devotion to Jesus and Mary on a worldwide scale. It has an amazing potential.

-Tim-
 
But as I said to my dear dear CAF friend, I’m only a simply country boy who can barely read and write. There are only so many things that I can answer. I have been wondering, if I am reaching my plateau. When that happens, it will be time to do something different. I’m just not sure what.

I believe that the real grace of the Dark Night is that there is a part that involves the will. When all seems as dark as a night without a moon to light the heavens and without stars to guide our way, we dare step into the night holding on to the hand of God, like a child trusting his father who knows the way to the light, because he is light. God can give us the grace of the Dark Night, but it will be wasted grace, if we do not willingly step into the darkness holding God’s hand.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Dear Bro. JR,

What plateau? We’re still at the foot of the mountain! Hehe. 😃

He will always give you the opportunity to speak of His love and His Church. When it was physically impossible, you were led to an online community that needed direction. You may feel that you can’t give any more, especially to those who have stayed here long enough to love you. As there will always be a new dad in need of help in a crisis pregnancy center, there will always be new people coming into CAF, in need of your gentle instruction. The teacher will always have a new set of students to fill his classroom at the start of a school year.

As for us who deeply appreciate your words and presence in this forums, we will always be Mary (sister of Martha) at your feet, eager to listen.

Ok… I’ve said too much. I’m already rambling. 😃
 
Thank you all for your kind words. Now that we have successfully derailed this thread, let’s get back to St. Teresa. She’s far more interesting than I am. 😛

I will certainly think more seriously about that book of essays.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
 
Thank you all for your kind words. Now that we have successfully derailed this thread, let’s get back to St. Teresa. She’s far more interesting than I am. 😛

I will certainly think more seriously about that book of essays.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
One last derailment: I just received Something Beautiful for God. It is about Mother Teresa, so it’s only half a derailment. 😃
 
I like the new title of this thread. 👍

I think that Teresa of Avila has a lot to say to us today. I’m glad that we can discuss her in the context of Catholic Tradition, because she is certainly, if not essential, one can say indispensable in Catholic Tradition.

Teresa presents a number of challenges to today’s Catholic and serves as a worthy role model for us in the 21st century.

Teresa enters Church history at the height of the Protestant Reformation. While heresies are growing around her like weeds in a field, there is no shortage of problems among those who call themselves Catholic. The Carmelite Order in Spain left much to be desired, even though the friars and nuns were not heretics. They had become so distracted by so many things around them and had been so influenced by the secular world in which they lived that the spirit of Carmel was blurred.

It’s really interesting, because we like to think of a past Church when all liturgy was reverent, religious all wore habits, priests preached good sermons, Catholic parents raised their children in the faith, and the Church spoke clearly on social issues and doctrines. The curious thing is that Teresa wished this were the case in her day. The truth was that none of this was the case in her day.

The Church did not speak clearly on social issues and moral doctrines. Priests did not preach good sermons. Religious had done worse than abandoning the habit, they had embellished it with worldly adaptations and even trinkets, reverent liturgy was a found among Benedictine monks, not in parishes and parents raised their children according to cultural traditions, not according to the Catholic faith. In fact, the men and women of Teresa’s time were anti-clerical, suspected the bishops and popes of everything from child sexual abuse to political engineering, and kings and popes were often enemical bedfellows.

Teresa was not a dumb woman. She was not well educated. She certainly was not a theologian, philosopher or scientist. So how does she become a saint and a Doctor of the Church?

I think that we have to look at how she responded to her context, which was not so unlike our own. If we really want to reach the heights of holiness as she did, we would do well to observe how she dealt with the Church and the world of her time. Observe what she did and what she did not do. Then compare that to what we do and what we don’t do.

All too often, we dismiss the behavior of the spiritual masters for their theology, forgetting that they did not get into heaven for their theology. They got into heaven for their behavior. We call it, a life of heroic Christian virtue.

There are many sides to Teresa of Avila that speak to today’s man. She’s a polylateral human being. For the purpose of this post, I would like to call attention to the two qualities in her that I find most endearing and most helpful in my own journey.

The first is her sense of humor. Teresa did not get flustered as we do when something goes wrong at mass or someone acts like a fool or a bishop says something that is not quite right. Her friends an biographers tell us that she actually laughed. it off. Only a very sober person can find humor in difficult situations. By that I mean, a person of great faith and charity.

Teresa believed in the Church. She was a daughter of the Church and she knew that her mother had warts, but was still her mother. She loved her, warts and all. At times, she would roll her eyes at some of the silliness that happened around her. Other times, she commented and laughed at the ridiculousness of it all, without ever laughing at the person or dismissing the person. Nor did she dismiss the seriousness. She dismissed all temptation to dwell on it and the temptation to let things discourage her. The best way to do that was to see the humor in situations.

The other endearing quality that I find in her is how straightforward she was. She did not condone or tolerate heresy, but she did not condone or tolerate piety either. God was not an infant that had to be treated and spoken to with the language of a child. She herself was a mature woman, not a 10-year old. She spoke to God as an adult in conversation with someone who was more mature than herself.

Modern man tends to go to ridiculous extremes that would probably make Teresa’s hair turn grey. God is a buddy like the guys down at the pub, to which Teresa would say that God is a beloved friend who deserves to be treated as such. The other extreme is that God is so removed from our reality that we can’t possibly speak to him in our own words, but we need to depend very elaborate prepackaged forms of prayer.

Teresa would tell us that vocal prayer, prepackaged prayer (i.e. Divine Office, novenas, etc) are part of the life of prayer. A life of prayer is like a romance. When two people of are in love they send each other poems (prepackaged expressions of love). They may send each other flowers or little gifts (signs and symbols). They have certain rituals such as going to a certain restaurant where they first met (liturgy). In addition to all of this, they have those moments of unspoken communication, when they sit there and look at each other allowing their souls to speak of love that has no words. And when they finally do speak, they do so with with great maturity and without affectations.

I have always found Teresa’s manner of interacting with God to be wholesome, holistic and adult.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF :christmastree1:
 
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