Staying free from feminist lies

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I specifically stated in the US and added some about my country of origin (in Latin America). I admitted I know nothing about schools or life in Australia or the UK. I said feminists in the US should focus their attention on other countries that do need help instead of focusing on “family planning” (abortion and contraception) in sub Saharan Africa, Asia, etc.
 
I understand 😊.

I just feel there is nothing wrong with addressing issues at home as well as aborad.

Bless.
 
It’s really not as deep as you’re trying to make it sound tbh. The term feminist was coined because they were addressing issues that had to do with women. Women didn’t have the same level of rights then, so obviously achieving gender equality would be ‘fighting for women’ to do xyz.

Now that the term is already defined as gender equality, there’s hardly a need to start off a new movement with a different name. Feminists view gender equality against men as a result of patriarchy (eg men have to be the breadwinner because it’s the ‘man’s job’ to do ABC, men cannot cry etc) though.

Simply put it, masculinist is not seen as the same because the term was never used. If men had their own movement and actually used that term to address issues they were going through as much as feminists were doing so, then you would have a point.
 
Unconscious bias is definitely a thing and studies have shown it, but it shows the implicit effects of racism on an individual rather than ‘proof’ a person hates a group of people. I wouldn’t discount it, we should acknowledge and question why we automatically assume something (instead of screaming bigot obviously)
 
Another thing, in many corporations it is a fireable offense to discuss your salary with your peers. Unless one is willing to lose their job, it is very easy for bias to do it’s thing.
 
That and the nature of at will employment means it’s very hard to prove an illegitimate firing.

I’ve had that at my work. It’s technically not legal to keep us from talking about our pay. But it’s still in the handbook, and everyone makes a mistake sooner or later. So the prevailing sentiment is that if you talk about it you’ll just end up getting fired for some mistake you made, or for not working fast enough, or something.
 
I hear ya. I just think it’s silly for the terms to mean opposing things.

Even though the basic definition of a feminist is nothing I’m against, the agenda of those claiming the title is often, and in most cases, much more than equal rights.

Women with feminist based beliefs use feminism as a means to demand freedoms of contraception, abortion, unjust divorce, and lack of respect for a husband’s authority.

So we could preach the basic definition has nothing to do with those things, yet the majority of women have these as their agenda. That’s what matters to me.
 
13pollitos said:
If equal rights and equal pay for women is all that feminism is about, there is no longer a need for feminists in the US. We have both, and the protection of the law to ensure them. Feminists need to concentrate their efforts in other countries instead of wasting energy here.
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There is still plenty to focus on in the U.S. Perhaps because some of these issues may not have touched you or some of the others on this thread personally, it’s hard to imagine. But to say “oh, well women are treated completely equally here so there’s no need for any further attention” is inaccurate.

For example, I was “laid off” after my maternity leave. I have a strong suspicion that it had a lot to do with having a baby, but the company could say that it was due to “changing business needs” and there was really nothing I could do about it or prove. This type of thing happens more frequently than you’d think. Not to mention the abysmal maternity policies we have in this country anyway. So yes, I’d say this is one of many issues that deserve attention.
 
Are feminists encouraging to respect a husband’s authority?
 
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I retired 2 years ago from a job as a Medical Technologist (hospital laboratory scientist). Over my long career I watched many changes take place in the areas of pay and promotions. The ratio of male to female MT’s is about 1 to 5 male to female. In the early years, most supervisors were male. Most managers were male. As hospitals changed how labs were managed, most supervisors were placed back on the bench, eliminating the supervisory role but their wages weren’t decreased, so they made more than others. Then supervisors were brought back and given raises for the promotion which further skewed wages. MT’s are now in desperate shortage and looking back on how wages became so skewed it was pretty apparent that it was originally due to men being promoted over women and pay never being adjusted to actual work performed. One year before I retired, I received a $3.25 raise. Nice! But it showed how skewed the wages had become. They deserve kudos for acknowledging the disparity and correcting it.
Companies are also realizing how skewed many positions are in wages or salaries due to past policies of paying new upper level management based on what they were payed in their previous company. Since men were payed higher in the past, it would continue in the new job by at least matching previous salaries. Now, some companies are saying NO. We will pay the position X amount of dollars regardless of your previous pay since that only continued the past biases.
So, things have vastly improved but vigilance needs to be continued since the past is still here in many cases unless it is specifically researched and rooted out.
 
I can only speak for myself. If I get married I will respect my husband’s spiritual authority.
 
Cecilia_Dympna said:
Can you please define “husband’s authority”.
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Ephesians 5

As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.
 
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I don’t think so. The Apostolic instruction doesn’t stand or fall by any examples of my own marriage.
 
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