Staying free from feminist lies

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The problem with ‘men first’ or ‘women first’ is that one would ignore the other’s problems or trivialize it instead of acknowledging the different and real struggles they go through (or in a less intelligent way to put it, one would engage in whataboutism). It doesn’t have to be a competition between the two groups.
 
The problem with ‘men first’ or ‘women first’ is that one would ignore the other’s problems or trivialize it instead of acknowledging the different and real struggles they go through (or in a less intelligent way to put it, one would engage in whataboutism). It doesn’t have to be a competition between the two groups.
Agreed (with caveats I won’t bother us with).

Just a clarification, my “men first” was specifically in relation to my comment that feminism is harming “men and families”, as a note that I had put “men” ahead of “families” quite deliberately, and then explained why.
 
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That’s not a good argument to make given that Jesus never intended to teach every single thing possible within his short ministry. Hence the reason why he got the apostles and the Church. Scripture literally states that Jesus did so many things that they didn’t record.

TBH there’s more convincing ways to argue for egalitarianism
The argument “Jesus never said it” is used to oppose other orthodox teachings, and the best answer is, I think, as a couple of posters here have already pointed out, that all of scripture is equally inerrant, and also your own points here.
I think it is important to point out that the Church does place primacy on the gospels and words of Jesus. Such is stated magisterially somewhere, or in the Catechism (but, I think it was a council). This is not to say that the gospels are more “inerrant” than the rest of scripture, but they do have primacy in interpretation.

However, the argument that “Jesus never said” something is usually a furphy (as we all seem to agree).
 
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And what does the Lector say after the reading of Scripture? The Word of the Lord.
 
I think we in agreement that all scripture is “God breathed” and inerrant. This is just a sidetrack on the primacy of the gospels. If you don’t believe me, then I’ll find it in the magisterium. It would be interesting to find anyway.
 
I do know the Gospels have a place of primacy among Scripture.
So, your post is directed at someone (who I’m not aware of) who is under valuing the other parts (particularly in relation to feminism, I am guessing)?

If you have a reference to the primacy of the gospels, I’d be interested. 🙂
 
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A comment was made that “Jesus never said husbands have authority over wives”.

I asked, “The head doesn’t have authority over the body?”

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Sorry, no reference about the priority of the Gospels. I just have been aware of this from when I was a lector.
 
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Sorry, no reference about the primacy of the Gospels. I just have been aware of this from when I was a lector.
This actually reminds me of part of my conversion from Evangelical Protestant fourty years ago. As I studied the scriptures for myself, I kept seeing passages in the Gospels which seemed to contradict Protestantism, particularly on sin and salvation (as opposed to sola fides), but on other matters also, and I noticed that Protestants tend to get much of their distinctive theology from the epistles rather than the Gospels, and to hedge around awkward gospel passages (eg. divorce!). But they’ll put out “Jesus never said” such and such, when convenient 🙂
 
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I was raised Evangelical Free.

I really appreciate the Scripture I learned!

Then, as an adult, I began to appreciate the Catholic understanding of Scripture, and the Mass worship.
 
And very often, it is. Thing is most people simply don’t talk about how great their marriage is, so, the perception becomes most marriages are “a lot of work”.
 
I honestly find that hard to believe, but I would love to be wrong about that. A lot of divorces, and generally unhappy/distant ones, throw in a limited pool of people with similar beliefs, Nfp etccc. Happily married people should be canonized 😂
 
Most happy marriages I know, personally, have gotten sterilization procedures done.

Kids put a very real challenge on parents. It tests their cooperation and mutual respect. Something that doesn’t endure with half of marriages.

I agree happy marriages are to be commended. But there may be compromises to the faith, as to why they haven’t truly overcome certain challenges.
 
A happy marriage is a lot of work but that is a good thing. Happily married people are helping each other get to heaven. They learn to disagree while still respecting each other and how to love well.
That can be done with one child or six or seven or twelve. It is done through the grace of God.
 
Yes, thats good. However, contraception and sterilization is not done through the grace of God

Kinda closing off to His grace.

But hey, you’re preaching to the choir about working on it with grace
 
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Not many Catholic ones, that was one of my points. It’s quite rare. And isn’t it 80% of Catholics using a contraceptive? Is that commendable?
 
Yes, I admire that you reject Contraception!

And still there is a cloud of the great majority blatantly using… 😦

So being “happily married” might be relying on an intrinsic evil to get there…
 
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Or might not. It is possible without contrception and with a bunch of kids.
 
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