Staying free from feminist lies

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Back in the day my grandparents ran a small mom and pop grocery store. They ran the store together with the kids helping out when they weren’t in school.

When it came to chores, my grandfather cleaned one half of the house and my grandmother cleaned the other half. Their kids helped. My grandfather did all the cooking since he was an excellent cook. He also did catering jobs on the side.
 
In the US, women were definitely encouraged to complete their schooling in the 70s. That was the first generation where the “college for everyone” idea first came up. Not only did my mother go to college, but it was paid for by the state, since her father was deceased. My paternal grandmother was absolutely expected to finish high school and attend college at least until she was married. My maternal grandmother was considered “graduated” after 8th grade, but she was born in 1912 and that was the way for both boys and girls in poor families.
 
I think for us ladies it is often hard to see the sacrifices our husbands make and the ways it affects their schooling, careers, and parenting. As hard as it is for us, we are usually admired by society for “untraditional” roles and careers. The opposite tends to happen for men. Even when the greater society tended to have women in teaching, nursing, secretarial, etc positions, parents proudly would announce, “That’s my daughter The Chemist,” or, “That’s my daughter The Doctor.” They would also proudly state, “My daughter is able to stay home and raise 4 children because her husband is The Architect.” We had options, and usually we were viewed in a sense of awe for untraditional ones. Some thought I crazy, many didn’t understand, but it was generally accepted. Even today, men are not given the same respect. I have a coworker who is a wonderful father and also a kindergarten teacher. His parents tell people he is a high school math teacher instead. My dad was ridiculed and called horrible names for moving for mom’s career. My brother is treated very disrespectfully by his in laws and others for being a stay at home dad. Historically men took extremely dangerous jobs in order to be able to afford their wife and children being able to work easier, less dangerous ones (housekeeping, cook, take in laundry, etc vs sweatshop labor). Life is hard for all of us. Sometimes it’s hard to see the other side.
 
TheLittleLady said:
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I’m a Catholic woman
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For the record, I am a Catholic, a woman, and a feminist.
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Is your husband a masculinist?
 
I agree that untraditional men were often mocked. Thank God we’re becoming more open minded.
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We had options, and usually we were viewed in a sense of awe for untraditional ones.
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In my experience, I feel like this was true amongst other women and the woman’s family. It felt as if guys outside of friends/family always assumed the woman was some raging radfem or that she was too independent to be a wife.

But I guess we can see that all of these gender biases have been and is currently perpetuated by both members of the opposite and same sex.
 
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Don’t know about hers, but my husband is a feminist. It’s not just a thing for women.
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My husband, in fact most of the men in my orbit are feminists (there are a couple of outliers mixed in there, for example one in the family unit, one who believes in all of the “aliens run everything” sort).

I saw a T Shirt a while back that said “This Is What Feminine Genius Looks Like”. I’m saving my pennies!

St Pope John Paul II, pray for us!
 
Seems one sided. Biased. Why wouldn’t a feminist be compatible with a masculinist?
 
What exactly is a masculinist? Someone who thinks men should have equal right with … men?
 
Wouldn’t a masculinist be the mirror of a feminist?

If your husband is a feminist, would you not be consistent being a masculinist?
 
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At best, at worst it is that “Red Pill” thinking that is so contrary to what a Christian Man of Virtue is.
 
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So is a feminist opposed to a masculinist?
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Why do you want opposition? Wanting equal rights and equal pay for women doesn’t take anything away from men.
It’s not pie,where giving Susie some means Johnny gets less.
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Can you show me how you concluded I want opposition?

If a husband is a feminist, is he also a masculinist?

Can one be a feminist and a masculinist? Shouldn’t they be both?
 
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No I don’t. They are not my terms. I’m not claiming to be a feminist or a masculinist. It’s really silly to do so. If anything I’m both or neither.

I’m a Christian
 
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Glad you’re admitting it. If you didn’t want to engage in the discussion, why did you bring it up?
 
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