Staying, Leaving?

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Stay if you believe in God. If you believe in man only, don’t.

Don’t forget that God gives us freewill. He didn’t force those priest to commit horrible acts. I think some people are using the scandals as an excuse to not go to church.
 
I feel perfectly comfortable staying. The scandals that occurred could have occurred anywhere with anyone, and actually do, like with workplaces, etc.

My faith is in the Lord, not in the media. The enemy feels threatened and tries to attack those closest to God, and he would love nothing more for the people to feel uncomfortable and leave the Church.

It is sad about the scandals, but the scandals do not make the Church what it is.
 
Exactly. How many school teachers get arrested for molesting kids? Do people stop sending their children to school, because of what one or a handful of teachers did?
 
I want to leave because the clergy has me so disgusted, but my heart won’t let me abandon Jesus in the Eucharist. He needs us more than ever.
 
Stay/join. (I think)

I have SSA and have for the past year been meeting regularly with a priest to discuss starting RCIA. He from day one has been totally fine with me joining the church. I feel that for the past year the Catholic church has been my home, more so that the Anglican Church ever was.

I still want to start RCIA in September, but I feel that many Catholics would rather that people like me didn’t. I also feel that many secular people and some Christians from other churches now view the Roman Catholic church as evil. Which I just find incredibly sad.
 
I was raised Catholic, educated as a Catholic & born again, enlightened, awakened by the Holy Spirit @ 19. I raised my children Catholic. I have bought my grandchildren Catholic storybooks. I have been to other churches as I have questioned much. I am a Christian first. I am open to other churches as 1 child left & attends an interdenominational, 1 doesn’t attend but is a believer, and 1 doesn’t attend but will be baptizing their child, so this may change. I believe some of the Church’s doctrine is too rigid as are some Catholics. WwJd? I believe Jesus wants us to love, discern through the Holy Spirit & wants us to simplify. Maybe this is the start of something miraculous. <3
 
^^^This is the answer I have been searching for in light of all the Catholic bashing I’ve encountered recently.
 
John 6:68
Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life."
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I will be staying. I will not allow the actions of sinful men to separate me from God’s presence in the Eucharist. I will not leave Jesus because of Judas.
 
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Alex5 said:
I still want to start RCIA in September, but I feel that many Catholics would rather that people like me didn’t.
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Quite the opposite, we want everyone to enter into the Church and be faithful members.
 
Please remember, it’s not up to you to “please other Catholics,”. Do your best to please God and you’ll be OK. Welcome!
 
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So what? No cases after 2002, doesnt meant those before 2002 can not be addressed. If the church keeps avoiding that it covered up the crimes it will still be dealing with those crimes 40 plus years from now.
 
Whew! Thank goodness you’re staying! I was about to board a plane and perform a Catholic Crisis Intervention :frowning_face_with_open_mouth: Now I can rest easy knowing that you’re evangelizing the West Coast 😴

Nevermind @StephieNorthCo she’s too busy tinkering with vacuum tubes 🤓:roll_eyes:
 
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After reading a couple good and accurate non-biased histories of the papacy and the inquisition, after hearing of the many confirmed child molestation charges, church payoffs to the victims, and after reading of my long time confessor being arrested along with fifteen of his gay friends while having their monthly 3 AM orgy in a roadside rest stop men’s room, I gave up on organized religion. If I can’t trust the church that I truly believed was the one true church, I don’t want to be associated with any.
 
Hope1960 said:
I plan to stay but I feel kind of uncomfortable about staying? Anyone else?
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Nothing presented has caused my faith to falter. I too felt a little uncomfortable with talking about this horrible, horrible ordeal. However, after listening to Father Mike’s video posted by @(name removed by moderator) (thanks again by the way) I feel empowered to lead my Parish’s Men’s Group out from under the shadow that these terrible Priest’s have cast on our Church.
John 6:68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life; 69 and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.”
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As Tim Staples often says, you don’t leave St. Peter because of Judas.

Keep up the good fight.

God Bless
 
I am staying.i am a convert via RCIA.i am saddened by what I have heard in the news but I am staying.i love the Catholic faith.i was brought up in a Baptist home.i am in a good parish and we have a wonderful priest.i love the parish I am in.
 
I am sorry to hear about your experience. But let me just say this. You lost faith in man, I would not lose faith in Christ. Indeed there are many ravenous wolves, but Christ is still present in his Church. Do not leave Christ because of the actions of men. Christ said the gates of hell shall not prevail over the Church, I would trust him and not abandon him.
 
Anywhere there are human beings, there will be sinners. And wherever there are sinners, there will be sin and Satan grinning. Satan hates Jesus and His followers, and selfishly wants to take as many away from God as he can. As Christians, we have targets on our backs and our clergy have even bigger targets. What extra nice trophies over Satan’s mantle to hell must be the souls of our priests, bishops and popes.

And what did I do to give aid to our clergy? Maybe if I had prayed more. Maybe one more prayer might have given one of these fallen priests a little more strength to do the right thing. Maybe one more Rosary would have given a bishop more strength to do the right thing. Maybe nothing would have changed, but I know prayer works, so maybe more prayer on my part would have helped. I must take responsibility too for what happens in our church. If one of our members has a problem, we all have a problem.

When Jesus turned over His church to a human, Peter, He knew He would always have to be there to guide it because we humans always mess up if left to ourselves. We have had bad Popes, Cardinals Bishops, Priests, and we members before, and the church Jesus left us still goes on. The Catholic Church is my spiritual family, and I will not abandon my family when they hit a rough patch, that is when they need me the most. Jesus Himself did not have an easy life while on earth, so why would His church?
 
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