Stevie Nicks Says "There Would Have Been No Fleetwood Mac" If She Had Not Gotten an Abortion

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ZemD said:
I am 30 and I can’t name one Fleetwood Mac song off the top of my head.
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They aren’t one of my favorite bands, but songs from their two big albums were hugely popular back in the day.
 
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Pattylt said:
What I think is equally tragic is that forty years ago, in order to have a successful career in entertainment, an abortion was necessary. Many women back then had to choose between having any career and having a baby. That forced pressure is easing but it’s not gone! We should do better.
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It was in some instances felt to be necessary. Plenty of female performers had successful careers AND children, so I dont think it was. If there had been no Fleetwood Mac, there would have been something else. Maybe better.
 
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I agree that this is truly sad. I’ve seen Fleetwood Mac live…Stevie Nicks has an incredible presence and is a profound talent, but it is as if you can feel her sadness throughout an audience of thousands… With all the troubles Fleetwood Mac has had over the years, you’d think they’d of been able to handle Stevie having a child. To Sara…
 
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What I am so happy about with the nomination of Amy Coney Barret is that we show that there is a way for a woman to pursue her dreams and still have a family.
 
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Thing Is, we’ve lost how many people due to abortion? How many Fleetwood Mac’s? How many Shakespeares, Michelangelo’s… Einstein’s, etc?
 
What I find troubling is that People magazine is doing a feature story on 27 celebrities who have had abortions and Stevie Nicks has chosen to tell us this. There are at least 50 women who have told their abortion stories.

Maureen McCormick( Marcia Brady) had 2 abortion at age 18, 19, and 20 and often actresses have shared their stories. Suzanne Somers also had an abortion but since she tends to lean more conservative, she is not seen as part of Hollywood. Tina Turner had two children by 18 but then did not feel she could keep the third one.

As I said there are two groups. ones that are proud while other like Sharon Osbourne who was traumatized. A number of these actresses have struggled with breast cancer. Rose McGowan is another one mentioned in People magazine article.

Just don’t know what to make of this.
 
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Was the music worth a life? No other creative ways to make it.

Still, that is how many women probably feel.
 
Stevie Nicks is worth 70 million and probably has spent a great deal of money living so to make that kind of wealth is very difficult.

Same with creative people like actresses, sport figures, writers, many woman can make a great deal of money but the cost in time and effort is there. It is also be an issue for the men but we seldom talk about it. Don Henley was a part of that abortion.
 
gam197 said:
I really wonder how many other stars, singers, musicians, artists feel this way, just tragic.
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It’s not just tragic, but anti-feminist. She’s condoning abortion as the only way for a woman to get ahead rather than questioning that status quo.
Pattylt said:
That forced pressure is easing but it’s not gone! We should do better.
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Sadly, I don’t think it’s entirely gone.
 
adamhovey1988 said:
Kind of the same way I feel.
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True. My son has discovered the “Rumours” album (which I have, in vinyl, from “back in the day”, he listens to the digital version) and I told him I’d far rather have him listening to classic pop than all of this garbage being spewed forth today. If I were a more emotional man, I would weep for a culture that has gone crazy over that filthy Cardi B song, not even the initials of which I will repeat.
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As I said there are two groups. ones that are proud while other like Sharon Osmond who was traumatized.
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Are you saying “Sharon Osbourne”?
 
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gam197:
I really wonder how many other stars, singers, musicians, artists feel this way, just tragic.
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It’s not just tragic, but anti-feminist. She’s condoning abortion as the only way for a woman to get ahead rather than questioning that status quo.
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I don’r think most of these women are questioning whether abortion is the only way to get ahead. It is the road most of them took to keep going in their careers and they are fighting to keep the status quo.
 
One has to ask why she appeals to so many. Also why did Stevie Nick’s songs appeal to so many? Was it more about the day to day shows and push forward?

Other singers such as Macy Gray who has had three children, not sure about controversy but she has a different good voice and seems to have faded…
 
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I have to disagree with Nicks because of the simple fact that there are plenty of singers and musicians who continued in their career after having children. While it’s true most of these are male it’s also true that women can still sing while pregnant; live performances would have been difficult but it would have been possible to record albums in the studio.

Nicks claims she had a choice between her child and her career, but it was possible to have both.
 
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gam197 said:
Also why did Stevie Nick’s songs appeal to so many?
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Because she was pretty, had stage presence, and was singing a style of music popular at the time in an era when the record industry had considerable power to push that style. (See also, payola, often by drugs or other illicit means. I interned at what was then the Number 1 radio station in US by popular poll, which was later found to have been fixed in and of itself.)

Some of her songs were also good, though not my preference for the most part.

In short, a marketable product, well marketed and in the right place at the right time. Like always.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
Because she was pretty, had stage presence, and was singing a style of music popular at the time in an era when the record industry had considerable power to push that style. Some of her songs were also good, though not my preference for the most part.
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Was it more about the constant day after day concerts that she had the energy to put into as did other band members? Buckingham voice was good too. Others also have a good voices and faded.
 
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Concerts helped but in those days you needed a hit record to even get on the concert bills. Also, from a live concert standpoint, the Mac wasn’t considered groundbreaking. Some other hit acts of the time such as the Eagles (Henley’s band) were considered terrible in concert. In those days the concerts were often so big that people could barely hear or see the band and often too stoned to care if the show was any good or not. They just wanted to be there. There were a few exceptions, like Springsteen who was famous for how good his live shows were, and the Dead of course.
 
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All that hassle over wireless application protocol. Cardi B reminds me of a conversation in the late Sir Terry Pratchett’s books where some of his character’s debate the difference between what is erotic and pornographic, one of them makes the point that erotic is using a feather, pornographic is using the whole chicken. Cardi B’s song is dreadful junk, it’s not ‘empowering’ it is just junk. But junk that gets an audience and makes money, sadly.
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I will have to say that Maya Rudolph’s one-liner about the country needing a “woman as President” was pretty darn funny!

SNL in recent years has become much more sophisticated, with a far broader range, and more willing to lampoon both sides, than they had been previously. Reminds me of something you’d see on French TV. Their parody of Mitch McConnell, who — charitably putting it — has a unique facial expression and voice, is pure comedy gold.
 
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