Story: California priest censored, receives venomous responses, death threats, for saying Chtistians should not celebrate pride month

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JoeFreedom said:
It’s called scandal. The Bible doesn’t have list out all the infinite possible ways to sin for something to be s sin. Pride Month and events like their parades promote homosexual acts and behaviors as normal. When a Catholic supports them the commit the sin of scandal.

You clearly cant grasp that so I’m out.
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You continue to ignore those LGBT Catholics who claim participation is important to them. The point is that not all who participate are promoting sin — in fact, it seems that making that point known is one reason why some LGBT Catholics want to participate.
 
From John 15

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 Whoever hates me hates my Father as well.
 
StudentMI said:
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gracepoole:
Still, none of that answers the question about whether Catholics are truly barred from supporting Pride Month.
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Why bother supporting it? It gives a mistaken impression that they are for same sex activity.
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I’m a gay man and have gone to various Pride events since 1982 and I’m not aware of any official statement that these events are specifically about celebrating “same sex activity.” This might be what these events mean to some gay people, but for others, they might mean something different. Mostly I think that they are an affirmation of the right of LGBT people to be themselves whatever that means to each person without fear of violence or discrimination. They grew out of the Stonewall Riots in 1969 which were a reaction to decades of police harrasment and brutality against LGBT people. And they were meant to send the message that LGBT people weren’t going to put up with that anymore.
 
I can honestly say I’ve only ever seen it as ‘the sin of Sodom’, until now. And there have been different interpretations given.
 
Yes, God created all of us. Now if you could explain how it follows that attending an event that celebrates behavior prohibited by the Church is justified, that would be great.
 
I made no claim; I asked a question. I do not appreciate having the plain meaning if my words twisted around like that.
 
Annie said:
I made no claim; I asked a question. I do not appreciate having the plain meaning if my words twisted around like that.
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My apologies – that genuinely wasn’t my intention. I was asking for clarification regarding your beliefs. Earlier you said the following:
If someone plans to remain chaste, and they so planned because they were Catholic and viewed such actions as sinful, why would they be celebrating that which tempts them?
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There seems an assumption here that Pride Month is all and only about celebrating sin. But at least for some LGBT Catholics, that’s not the case.
 
gracepoole said:
I shared an article earlier in this thread that provides voices of such people.
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@OScarlett_nidiilii:

This is how the blog you shared presents itself:
With a fully inclusive and affirming view of the LGBTQ+ community, we hope to inspire other Queer Catholics to more fully embrace the abundant life promised by Jesus, and witnessed in the lives of the saints, through embracing our God-given spirituality and sexuality, that our fruitfulness may be a witness to the worldwide Church.
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And 3 of the four people highlighted on the About Us page are either married to each other or have a partner.

Don’t see a lot about chastity there…
gracepoole said:
There seems an assumption here that Pride Month is all and only about celebrating sin. But at least for some LGBT Catholics, that’s not the case.
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So what makes you think that?
 
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StudentMI said:
es the ever peaceful left engaging in death threats. Lovely.
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Tell Barack Obama that after his likeness was burned in effigy and the countless death threats he received from the ‘right’

sheesh…
 
gracepoole said:
Because of this portion of your statement:
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gracepoole said:
There seems an assumption here that Pride Month is all and only about celebrating sin. But at least for some LGBT Catholics, that’s not the case.
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Sorry, I seem to have been unclear. I wanted to ask what made you think that for some LGBT Catholics, celebrating Pride Month is not about celebrating sin?

Certainly PM is about celebrating the state of being homosexual, which is to have temptations to specific sinful behaviors. That is what distinguishes homosexual persons from non-homosexual persons. And there is definitely an element of celebrating the occurrence of these sins.

So I am just not sure why a Catholic who is attempting to be chaste because of his Catholic beliefs would be involved with those who “celebrate their … sexuality.”
 
Going to a Pride Month event does not equate to promoting or endorsing gay marriage or any more than going to a bar supports being an alcoholic… why must some people be obsessed with bed room issues alone? As if that were the only or most important issue…
 
Annie said:
So I am just not sure why a Catholic who is attempting to be chaste because of his Catholic beliefs would be involved with those who “celebrate their … sexuality.”
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I think it is because they believe that they are not celebrating their sexuality, but their nature. You can disagree, but homosexuals believe that it is more than a proclivity, but instead a genetic disposition… seems like some scientists agree…
 
I don’t really want to argue with what seems to be a speculation on your part.
 
I am not speculating, I am indicating a lack of understanding. While it was not at that point put in the form of a question, elsewhere I did write it as a question.

English is like that…
 
WingedHussar said:
Yes, God created all of us. Now if you could explain how it follows that attending an event that celebrates behavior prohibited by the Church is justified, that would be great.
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I think @godisgood77 says it better than I can.
Going to a Pride Month event does not equate to promoting or endorsing gay marriage or any more than going to a bar supports being an alcoholic… why must some people be obsessed with bed room issues alone? As if that were the only or most important issue…
 
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