Students attend school's first integrated prom

[Timothy_486]

ASHBURN, Georgia (CNN) – Students of Turner County High School started what they hope will become a new tradition: Black and white students attended the prom together for the first time on Saturday.

In previous years, parents had organized private, segregated dances for students of the school in rural Ashburn, Georgia, 160 miles south of Atlanta. “Whites always come to this one and blacks always go to this one,” said Lacey Adkinson, a 14-year-old freshman at the school of 455 students – 55 percent black, 43 percent white. (Watch students arrive at dance Video)

“It’s always been a tradition since my daddy was in school to have the segregated ones, and this year we’re finally getting to try something new,” she said. (Audio slide show: A town breaks with tradition) Adkinson’s sister, Mindy Bryan, attended a segregated prom in 2001. “There was not anybody that I can remember that was black,” she said. “The white people have theirs, and the black people have theirs. It’s nothing racial at all.”

cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/turner.prom/index.html

Welcome to the 20th century, Turner County

 

[catsrus]

Saw this on the Today show. It’s about time. What the heck took so long?!? It’s 2007 for cryin’ out loud! I KNOW it’s Georgia, but still…

 

[cor]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having separate proms for whites and blacks. There’s no Church teaching against it. Having separate proms encourages whites to marry within their own race and that’s important because almost everywhere where whites are ( ex. North America, Europe) the white race is being wiped out through immigration and interracial marriage. I’m not saying interracial marriage is a sin; I’m just saying it’s having a social, cultural consequence in terms of the survival of the white race. Natural law teaches us to love our “patria” – I think “patria” can extend to both one’s country and one’s race.

For those who don’t read the link, the link says that there was still a “white” prom in addition to the school prom. It also said that blacks were welcome at the “white” prom but that they don’t feel welcome so they don’t come.

 

[Timothy_486]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having separate proms for whites and blacks. There’s no Church teaching against it. Having separate proms encourages whites to marry within their own race and that’s important because almost everywhere where whites are ( ex. North America, Europe) the white race is being wiped out through immigration and interracial marriage. I’m not saying interracial marriage is a sin; I’m just saying it’s having a social, cultural consequence in terms of the survival of the white race. Natural law teaches us to love our “patria” – I think “patria” can extend to both one’s country and one’s race.

?!?!?!?!

 

[Timothy_486]

Alright Cor, here’s a little question for you:

Please define EXACTLY what the “White race” is (Including how to recognize them and where they come from) and please also do the same for the “black race”.

 

[Lance]

Saw this on the Today show. It’s about time. What the heck took so long?!? It’s 2007 for cryin’ out loud! I KNOW it’s Georgia, but still…

I’ll bet that the state of Georgia is more integrated than Illinois.

 

[b_justb]

cor:

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having separate proms for whites and blacks.

I do

cor:

There’s no Church teaching against it.

There’s isn’t one for it either.

cor:

Having separate proms encourages whites to marry within their own race and that’s important because almost everywhere where whites are ( ex. North America, Europe) the white race is being wiped out through immigration and interracial marriage. I’m not saying interracial marriage is a sin; I’m just saying it’s having a social, cultural consequence in terms of the survival of the white race. Natural law teaches us to love our “patria” – I think “patria” can extend to both one’s country and one’s race.

For those who don’t read the link, the link says that there was still a “white” prom in addition to the school prom. It also said that blacks were welcome at the “white” prom but that they don’t feel welcome so they don’t come.

I’m affriad you are raising quite the racist red flag with this post. You might want to offer more explination, or not. Up to you.

 

[cor]

I do

Why? Would you think that a dance organized for say Chinese Americans was wrong? If not, then what’s the difference between that and one organized for European Americans? I think there’s a double standard when it comes to the white race.

There’s isn’t one for it either.

That’s true.

I’m affriad you are raising quite the racist red flag with this post. You might want to offer more explination, or not. Up to you.

I don’t hate any race; I love all races. So if hating a race is what you mean by “racist” then I’m certainly not a racist. Don’t those of you who are white care about how the white people are dying out (through low birthrates combined with immigration and immigrant demographics and interracial marriage)? Everyone, whether white or not should care about it, but especially whites should care about it since natural law teaches us that we should love our “patria” – I think that’s Latin for country or fatherland but I think it applies or extends to one’s race or people also. So for example, a Greek American should love not only America but also the Greek people. How can you be against love?

 

[OldAgeGuru]

So I’m Irish, and my boyfriend is Portuguese. Apparently, I hate Ireland, and my boyfriend hates Portugal.

Does it really matter as long as you love each other?

The notion that whites should only marry whites, is kinda repugnant.

 

[rlg94086]

Why? Would you think that a dance organized for say Chinese Americans was wrong?

Yes.

cor:

I don’t hate any race; I love all races. So if hating a race is what you mean by “racist” then I’m certainly not a racist. Don’t those of you who are white care about how the white people are dying out (through low birthrates combined with immigration and immigrant demographics and interracial marriage)? Everyone, whether white or not should care about it, but especially whites should care about it since natural law teaches us that we should love our “patria” – I think that’s Latin for country or fatherland but I think it applies or extends to one’s race or people also. So for example, a Greek American should love not only America but also the Greek people. How can you be against love?

Hmm…so by marrying my wife, who is an american born filipina, I am contributing to my “race” dying out?

Which “patria” are my kids supposed to love? Mine or my wife’s?

They don’t have any “white” race in them, since their skin color is brown, right?

 

[dawgfan]

Saw this on the Today show. It’s about time. What the heck took so long?!? It’s 2007 for cryin’ out loud! I KNOW it’s Georgia, but still…

Apparently the above post is an example that some forms of prejudice exist outside of the state of Georgia.

I know you were just kidding but not all southerners harbor such attitudes. When I saw the article in the news, it was just as much a shock to me as it was to you that there were places that such things were still happening.

 

[b_justb]

cor:

Why? Would you think that a dance organized for say Chinese Americans was wrong? If not, then what’s the difference between that and one organized for European Americans? I think there’s a double standard when it comes to the white race.

If any social function is held to the exclusion of any person based upon race, it is wrong. No double standard here. Segregation by race is always wrong.

cor:

I don’t hate any race; I love all races. So if hating a race is what you mean by “racist” then I’m certainly not a racist. Don’t those of you who are white care about how the white people are dying out (through low birthrates combined with immigration and immigrant demographics and interracial marriage)? Everyone, whether white or not should care about it, but especially whites should care about it since natural law teaches us that we should love our “patria” – I think that’s Latin for country or fatherland but I think it applies or extends to one’s race or people also. So for example, a Greek American should love not only America but also the Greek people. How can you be against love?

I am white, about as pale faced as they come. I don’t think, nor care even if it’s true, that “white people are dying out.” I think we need a unifying action not a dividing one. That’s one bonus about being Catholic and attempting to hold to my Catholic Identity. All my fellow Catholics and by extension all non-Catholic Christians, are my brothers and sisters, no matter what color their skin is, or where their mothers and fathers happened to be born.

When I was an Olympic Gold Medalist Sinner during my stint in the US Armed Forces I became ridiculously prejudice. I have fought against these tendencies and I feel that with the help of the Spirit of Truth I have finally after many years made some head way in this one area in my life. The things you are describing and attempting to label as “love” is just as ridiculous as the prejudices I once held. I don’t know of a softer way to put it, and I don’t know how to be politically correct so as not to seem offensive by stating so bluntly, for that I am sorry. I am just not a diplomat. Please look passed my bluntness and re-examine your heart on this issue, I fear it is malformed.

I wish you all Peace.

 

[Lance]

If any social function is held to the exclusion of any person based upon race, it is wrong. No double standard here. Segregation by race is always wrong.
I am white, about as pale faced as they come. I don’t think, nor care even if it’s true, that “white people are dying out.” I think we need a unifying action not a dividing one. That’s one bonus about being Catholic and attempting to hold to my Catholic Identity. All my fellow Catholics and by extension all non-Catholic Christians, are my brothers and sisters, no matter what color their skin is, or where their mothers and fathers happened to be born.

When I was an Olympic Gold Medalist Sinner during my stint in the US Armed Forces I became ridiculously prejudice. I have fought against these tendencies and I feel that with the help of the Spirit of Truth I have finally after many years made some head way in this one area in my life. The things you are describing and attempting to label as “love” is just as ridiculous as the prejudices I once held. I don’t know of a softer way to put it, and I don’t know how to be politically correct so as not to seem offensive by stating so bluntly, for that I am sorry. I am just not a diplomat. Please look passed my bluntness and re-examine your heart on this issue, I fear it is malformed.

I wish you all Peace.

You stated your case and mine very well. Congratulations, I grew in in south Georgia and have spent much of my life trying to overcome the prejudices I grew up with. My brother in law belongs to The Son’s of Italy, when they have a dance his Swedish wife is welcome as am I. I have even seen some black people there because they were married to an Italian/American. Should I not welcome the brother of my priest into my home because he is African?

 

[EMAC]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having separate proms for whites and blacks. There’s no Church teaching against it. Having separate proms encourages whites to marry within their own race and that’s important because almost everywhere where whites are ( ex. North America, Europe) the white race is being wiped out through immigration and interracial marriage. I’m not saying interracial marriage is a sin; I’m just saying it’s having a social, cultural consequence in terms of the survival of the white race. Natural law teaches us to love our “patria” – I think “patria” can extend to both one’s country and one’s race.

For those who don’t read the link, the link says that there was still a “white” prom in addition to the school prom. It also said that blacks were welcome at the “white” prom but that they don’t feel welcome so they don’t come.

You never answered the question…“what do define as the white race”
I’m so sorry that you think that my marrying a white-man and I being Mexican-American is somehow ruining your “pure white race”. I can’t believe in this day and age and especially on a Catholic Forum, this kind of disturbed way of thinking is still going on.
I have a beautiful mulit-racial child and she wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for her parents meeting, falling in love, and living the Catholic faith regardless of the color of our skin or what ignorant people like you think of it.
However, all that being said…I will most definitely pray for you…especially since you are supposed to be my brother in Christ or I’m sorry is that limited to race as well?

Thank God for my beautiful “non-fully white child”…hopefully she will be able to teach people like you a thing or two as she gets older

 

[cor]

Alright Cor, here’s a little question for you:

Please define EXACTLY what the “White race” is (Including how to recognize them and where they come from) and please also do the same for the “black race”.

I don’t think it’s a black and white thing in terms of definition of race. Some people are not pure white and only a portion of their ancestry is white. Other people are descended from peoples of the Near East who may have mixed more with non-white people throughout history. There are many white races, not just one – but all the European races share a common heritage and homeland in Europe. Just look at the statistics. France is projected to become majority Muslim/non-white soon. These non-white people will gradually intermarry with the white natives until eventually there is no more white people except maybe in Iceland! I already stated that interracial marriage wasn’t a sin, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have these undesirable social, cultural, racial effects and consequences. So if you are a white person wanting to be with a non-white person you have to make a choice between individual romantic love and love for your race (your race’s continued demographic survival). I don’t condemn those who make the former choice but I believe we should encourage as many whites as possible to marry within the white race.

Certain Asian races encourage their members to marry within their own race. If there’s nothing wrong with that, there should be nothing wrong with whites encouraging whites to marry within the white race. Otherwise you are using a double standard.

O, to answer your question about how I would define the black race – well they would be the sub-saharan African races.

 

[cor]

Yes.

At least your consistent. So are you against clubs based on race too? Some high schools have “Asian clubs” for example.

Hmm…so by marrying my wife, who is an american born filipina, I am contributing to my “race” dying out?

That’s your personal choice that you made and I wouldn’t condemn you for that.

Which “patria” are my kids supposed to love? Mine or my wife’s?

Why not both?

 

[cor]

If any social function is held to the exclusion of any person based upon race, it is wrong. No double standard here. Segregation by race is always wrong.

So are you against the Congressional Black Caucus for example? How do you feel about the NAACP?

I am white, about as pale faced as they come. I don’t think, nor care even if it’s true, that “white people are dying out.”

You don’t care if your own people are dying out? How appalling! You should read (I have not personally read it but it comes recommended):

The Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization
by Patrick J. Buchanan who is an exemplary traditional Catholic

amazon.com/Death-West-Populations-Immigrant-Civilization/dp/0312285485

It’s an established, undisputed fact that white populations in North America and Europe are dying out. Here’s some reflection of that fact:

“There will only be very few and very old ethnic Germans and French and Italians by the midpoint of this century. What will they leave behind? Territories that happen to bear their names and keep up some of the old buildings?”

opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760

“The demographics are unmistakable: Europe is dying”

unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/2005/0406/weig/weigel_europe.html
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2895109.stm

Rick Santorum (considered a hero by many Catholics here) says:

“Those cultures are dying. People are dying. They’re being overrun from overseas…”
santorumexposed.com/serendipity/archives/158-Santorum-Europe-is-Dying.html

I think we need a unifying action not a dividing one. That’s one bonus about being Catholic and attempting to hold to my Catholic Identity.

It was Pope JPII who said that each and every culture was a gift from God to the Church. Should we not then accept the white culture and race as a gift from God to the Church and work and clamor to preserve it?

 

[EMAC]

I don’t think it’s a black and white thing in terms of definition of race. Some people are not pure white and only a portion of their ancestry is white. Other people are descended from peoples of the Near East who may have mixed more with non-white people throughout history. There are many white races, not just one – but all the European races share a common heritage and homeland in Europe. Just look at the statistics. France is projected to become majority Muslim/non-white soon. These non-white people will gradually intermarry with the white natives until eventually there is no more white people except maybe in Iceland! I already stated that interracial marriage wasn’t a sin, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have these undesirable social, cultural, racial effects and consequences. So if you are a white person wanting to be with a non-white person you have to make a choice between individual romantic love and love for your race (your race’s continued demographic survival). I don’t condemn those who make the former choice but I believe we should encourage as many whites as possible to marry within the white race.

Certain Asian races encourage their members to marry within their own race. If there’s nothing wrong with that, there should be nothing wrong with whites encouraging whites to marry within the white race. Otherwise you are using a double standard.

O, to answer your question about how I would define the black race – well they would be the sub-saharan African races.

What is so wrong with there not being any one race? Where is the harm in that? Having a love for you race is great. I love that fact that I’m latina. I’m very proud of it. And every race should be. But, if I woke up tomorrow and we were all the same (as boring as it might be) it wouldn’t bother me one bit.
What I’m getting from your post, and I could be wrong, is that that situation would somehow bother you. You love your race so much that it would be devastating to you if it evaporated? Yep, I think that’s merging into racist territory.
As far as Asians wanting Asians to marry Asians I think there’s a problem with that too, so no double standard from where I stand.
And how can you even place the love of your race up there with the love you feel for another person???
What are those undesirable, social and racial effects that marriage causes? That races come to a closer understanding of one other and deeper love and appreciation of their differences???
With each post, you are showing more and more of your ignorance.
Ignorance breeds racism.

 

[cor]

Having a love for you race is great. I love that fact that I’m latina. I’m very proud of it. And every race should be.

Good for you! I wish everyone in this thread would agree with your thought here

 

[rlg94086]

That’s your personal choice that you made and I wouldn’t condemn you for that.

Quite magnanimous of you.

Why not both?

I’m sorry, but how is that possible? You claim in another post:

So if you are a white person wanting to be with a non-white person you have to make a choice between individual romantic love and love for your race (your race’s continued demographic survival). I don’t condemn those who make the former choice but I believe we should encourage as many whites as possible to marry within the white race.

Since I chose “individual romantic love” over love for “my race,” my children are not white, correct? I am helping to extinguish the white race (except in Iceland), right? They can’t possibly be pround of the white heritage that I am extinguishing, if they are not white, right?

So, how many white people do my children and grandchildren have to marry to expunge the brownness from the bloodline?

Skin color has no bearing whatsoever on anything. The fact that most of my ancestory is white European (my great-great-grandfather already messed up our bloodline by marrying a Sioux woman…oh the horror!..but it is not visible in my skin color), has nothing to do with our American heritage.