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Since everyone else is giving their opinion, I’ll give mine too…

To be quite honest, who really cares if the prom was desegregated or not? So they’ve been segregated for years, if everyone was happy, wonderful and if the are going to be desegreaged and everyone is happy, wonderfull too! As long as everyone’s happy with the situation!!

The thing is, there are a lot of things that in my opinion that are still segregated but aren’t necessarily termed that way.

For example, here in the south and other places too, we have debutante balls or the like, and a lot of times there is a “white” one and a “black” one. The same with beauty pageants.

Also, there are some school districts that are zoned on purpose to have all the “black” neighboorhoods go to one school and the “white” neighborhoods go to another.

IMHO, segregation is never going to go away. I’m not at all saying that it is right (its not!), but it’s not going to go away. It may not be called segregation but that’s what it is. Whether its black people not allowing whites into their clubs, parties, etc. or whites doing the same thing to blacks. Or any other race doing the same thing.

The bottom line is until prejedouce (sp?) goes away in ALL races, segregation will always be a part of our society in some way.
 
cor said:
Good for you! I wish everyone in this thread would agree with your thought here 🙂
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But that doesn’t mean you should promote hatred of other races by suggesting that races not “inter-mingle”.
Yes, I said hatred, because that’s the propaganda you promote when you talk about keeping races separate. It’s all in the history books. I think after reporting your racist remarks I will discontinue indulging you with any more post. And frankly, I’m disappointed that others haven’t come out despising your mindset.

Good luck to you on your crusade to keep your race alive.
By the way, 3 of my “white” friends are married and having children with “African-American” men. Yep, your right, you’re losing the battle…
 
cor said:
It was Pope JPII who said that each and every culture was a gift from God to the Church. Should we not then accept the white culture and race as a gift from God to the Church and work and clamor to preserve it?
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Race is not culture. There is no white culture. There is French culture, German culture, American culture, but no white culture.
 
cor said:
You don’t care if your own people are dying out?
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What a backwards comment. This comment was not directed to me, but I must say I must say this: ALL people are my people. Just because someone has adifferent skin tone does not mean they are not my people. Earlier you said there is not one white race, but now they are all one people? The contradictions prove the, yes, stupidity of your arguments.
 
rlg94086 said:
Race is not culture. There is no white culture. There is French culture, German culture, American culture, but no white culture.
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There is European culture. Race is an integral component of culture. The lineage of a tribe is part of the traditions of the tribe.

“Kinship and descent is one of the major concepts of cultural anthropology. Cultures worldwide possess a wide range of systems of tracking kinship and descent. Anthropologists break these down into simple concepts which are common among many different cultures.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineage_%28anthropology%29

As you can see contemporary, modern-day cultural anthropology acknowledges that race as lineage is part of culture.
 
cor said:
Don’t those of you who are white care about how the white people are dying out (through low birthrates combined with immigration and immigrant demographics and interracial marriage)?
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Dying out? I like how we hear about this from doomsday types in the media all the time but there is no evidence to back it up
cor said:
France is projected to become majority Muslim/non-white soon.
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Hah! Ignorance at it’s best! Sorry to burst your bubble, bur France has one of the top highest native birthrates in Europe.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6268251.stm

(Oh and by the way, Islam is a religion, not a race!)
 
cor said:
There is European culture. Race is an integral component of culture. The lineage of a tribe is part of the traditions of the tribe.

“Kinship and descent is one of the major concepts of cultural anthropology. Cultures worldwide possess a wide range of systems of tracking kinship and descent. Anthropologists break these down into simple concepts which are common among many different cultures.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineage_%28anthropology%29

As you can see contemporary, modern-day cultural anthropology acknowledges that race as lineage is part of culture.
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So then what race made up “roman” culture? After all, the Roman empire consisted of, Anglos, Gaulics, Saxons, Etruscans, Greeks, Egyptians, Arabs, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Armenians, Macedonians, Spaniards, Italians, Germans, Hittites…
 
Timothy_486 said:
Dying out? I like how we hear about this from doomsday types in the media all the time but there is no evidence to back it up
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Like Rick Santorum and Pat Buchanan et al that I quoted in an earlier post?
Hah! Ignorance at it’s best! Sorry to burst your bubble, bur France has one of the top highest native birthrates in Europe.
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news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6268251.stm
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(Oh and by the way, Islam is a religion, not a race!)
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It says the birth rate is 2 which is below the replacement rate. And that’s the birth rate for France including the non-ethnically French. The birth rate for the ethnically French is far below 2.

I cited a bbc article which talks about European populations dying out (same as your source above)
 
cor said:
There is European culture. Race is an integral component of culture. The lineage of a tribe is part of the traditions of the tribe.

“Kinship and descent is one of the major concepts of cultural anthropology. Cultures worldwide possess a wide range of systems of tracking kinship and descent. Anthropologists break these down into simple concepts which are common among many different cultures.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineage_%28anthropology%29

As you can see contemporary, modern-day cultural anthropology acknowledges that race as lineage is part of culture.
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I see. So, now you are an anthropologist. Well, what is the race of an American from an anthropological perspective?
 
Timothy_486 said:
So then what race made up “roman” culture? After all, the Roman empire consisted of, Anglos, Gaulics, Saxons, Etruscans, Greeks, Egyptians, Arabs, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Armenians, Macedonians, Spaniards, Italians, Germans, Hittites…
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I am no historian but I believe some of those races ruled as Romans and others were ruled over and not citizens. I don’t see how your question is relevant. A culture can consist of more than one race.
 
The really sad thing about all this is that “race”, as a scientific, biological, concept simply doesn’t exist. It’s not a Catholic or Christian one either, given St. Paul’s observation about there being neither Greek nor Jew in Christ.

But let’s stick to the science. If race were a reality, then a race would form a population. Now as a population geneticist, I know this has been explored. The assumption was made that race DID exist, and that races DID form distinct populations. It was tested as follows:

If the populations are really distinct, then their genetic makeup will be statistically significantly different one from another. To measure this, the differences within the supposed populations was measured, along with the differences between them. With these measurements, the concept of race was discarded from the life sciences.

Not only were the differences between the supposed populations not statistically significant, they were less than the differences observed WITHIN the supposed populations – differences which WERE statistically significant.

To speak of preserving “race” is to speak of preserving the non-existent – and to come very close to uttering the nasty and dastardly 14 words of David Lane.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
rlg94086 said:
I see. So, now you are an anthropologist. Well, what is the race of an American from an anthropological perspective?
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Well I think America’s cultural heritage comes from Europe. All our founding fathers were Europeans. All Americans of whatever race should therefore see Europe as the land America hailed from. This doesn’t mean that they can’t also appreciate their own race’s heritage and culture too.
 
cor said:
Well I think America’s cultural heritage comes from Europe. All our founding fathers were Europeans. All Americans of whatever race should therefore see Europe as the land America hailed from. This doesn’t mean that they can’t also appreciate their own race’s heritage and culture too.
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I see. So Americans whose ancestors originated from Africa, Asia, South America, Central America or…er…North America (aka Native Americans), are not culturally American?
 
Here’s another commentator who talks about Europe’s dying populations:

fpri.org/ww/0602.200506.weigel.europedying.html

He is George Weigel, a noted Catholic theologian. IIRC, he wrote a biography of JPII

“One can already see the effects of Europe’s self-inflicted depopulation in the tensions experienced in France, Germany, and elsewhere by rising tides of immigration from North Africa, Turkey, and other parts of the Islamic world. Since 1970, which is not all that long ago, some 20 million (legal) Islamic immigrants—the equivalent of three E.U. countries, Ireland, Belgium, and Denmark-have settled in Europe. And while, in the most optimistic of scenarios, these immigrants may become good European democrats, practicing civility and tolerance, there is another and far grimmer alternative, as I have suggested above. Europe’s current demographic trendlines, coupled with the radicalization of Islam that seems to be a by-product of some Muslims’ encounter with contemporary, secularized Europe, could eventually produce a twenty-second century, or even late twenty-first century, Europe increasingly influenced by, and perhaps even dominated by, militant Islamic populations, convinced that their long-delayed triumph in the European heartland is at hand.”
 
Where is race mentioned here? You seem to be confusing culture with race.
cor said:
Here’s another commentator who talks about Europe’s dying populations:

fpri.org/ww/0602.200506.weigel.europedying.html

He is George Weigel, a noted Catholic theologian. IIRC, he wrote a biography of JPII

“One can already see the effects of Europe’s self-inflicted depopulation in the tensions experienced in France, Germany, and elsewhere by rising tides of immigration from North Africa, Turkey, and other parts of the Islamic world. Since 1970, which is not all that long ago, some 20 million (legal) Islamic immigrants—the equivalent of three E.U. countries, Ireland, Belgium, and Denmark-have settled in Europe. And while, in the most optimistic of scenarios, these immigrants may become good European democrats, practicing civility and tolerance, there is another and far grimmer alternative, as I have suggested above. Europe’s current demographic trendlines, coupled with the radicalization of Islam that seems to be a by-product of some Muslims’ encounter with contemporary, secularized Europe, could eventually produce a twenty-second century, or even late twenty-first century, Europe increasingly influenced by, and perhaps even dominated by, militant Islamic populations, convinced that their long-delayed triumph in the European heartland is at hand.”
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rlg94086 said:
I see. So Americans whose ancestors originated from Africa, Asia, South America, Central America or…er…North America (aka Native Americans), are not culturally American?
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No that’s not what I said. Maybe I wasn’t clear.

Americas whose ancestors originated from elsewhere should still embrace Europe as their cultural heritage since as Americans they should identify with our founding fathers and the colonists from Europe. When you become an American you adopt it as your homeland and your homeland’s history becomes part of your history regardless of race. As I said, this doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate one’s own non-European race also.
 
rlg94086 said:
Where is race mentioned here? You seem to be confusing culture with race.
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The native European populations George Weigal speaks of are of course whites. The immigrants from Africa and the Middle East are not quite white, not the same kind of white anyway as the Europeans. Almost all Muslims are non-pure white (non-European race). So here the two coincide.

One’s race (lineage) is a part of culture as the article I quoted from wikipedia states.
 
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