Study the Qur’an?

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Servant19 said:
And what’s that got to do with polygamy???

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Because the Catholic Jesus didn’t teach polygamy,but the Jesus(Abraham,Krishna,Zoroaster,Moses, Buddha,) Christ of Bahaism does when he Morphs into Muhammad.
 
Techno2000 said:
Because the Catholic Jesus didn’t teach polygamy,but the Jesus(Abraham,Krishna,Zoroaster,Moses, Buddha,) Christ of Bahaism does when he Morphs into Muhammad.
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Are you saying that the Trinity was not the God talking to Abraham then?

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Servant19 said:
Well the question has to be asked then.

No wonder Catholics are confused. God is not the teacher of confusion, is he?

In fact, our friend Techno might know, who is the author of confusion?

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Why the condescending remark Servant? You’re implying God is not with Catholics because we are confused?
 
JimmyDFG said:
Why the condescending remark Servant? You’re implying God is not with Catholics because we are confused?
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No my friend, some Catholics here are implying God is not with Baha’is.

I’m just putting forward a premise that you all may need to think about before claiming such claims.

Yes, Baha’u’llah makes grand claims and Baha’is love Him with all our hearts and all our souls. We would sacrifice everything for Him. It’s important therefore to refrain from the Satan, false prophet and demon talk 🙂

Same goes with Muhammad.

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Servant19 said:
No my friend, some Catholics here are implying God is not with Baha’is.

I’m just putting forward a premise that you all may need to think about before claiming such claims.

Yes, Baha’u’llah makes grand claims and Baha’is love Him with all our hearts and all our souls. We would sacrifice everything for Him. It’s important therefore to refrain from the Satan, false prophet and demon talk 🙂

Same goes with Muhammad.

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So I shouldn’t believe what some of the saints of the Catholic Church say…and ignore some verses in the Bible?
Do you believe and accept the Holy Trinity?
 
JimmyDFG said:
So I shouldn’t believe what some of the saints of the Catholic Church say…and ignore some verses in the Bible?
Do you believe and accept the Holy Trinity?
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I’m just trying to show… the Baha’is… that the Devil is in the Details.
 
Servant19 said:
Not fully sure what you are implying here Jimmy.

As a person married to a family full of Arabs, I can tell you that there is a poetic beauty in reading the Arabic prose of the Quran.

The meanings can still be grasped perfectly well in English.

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Yours and worldcitizen have different views on the matter

worldcitizen message #710
“Many problems have arisen from incorrect English translations which are currently used as a foundation to attack Islam but which can be proven to be baseless.”

worldcitizen message #701
“Simply because that’s the language it was originally revealed in and in translation meanings are lost. No other language on earth is as rich as Arabic”

And you say Catholics are “confused”
 
JimmyDFG said:
So I shouldn’t believe what some of the saints of the Catholic Church say…and ignore some verses in the Bible?
Do you believe and accept the Holy Trinity?
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It’s So Hard for them to Believe in The Trinity… yet… it’s So Easy for them to Believe that Jesus was …Abraham,Krishna,Zoroaster,Moses, Buddha…:hmmm:
 
Techno2000 said:
It’s So Hard for them to Believe in The Trinity… yet… it’s So Easy for them to Believe that Jesus was …Abraham,Krishna,Zoroaster,Moses, Buddha…:hmmm:
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This is exactly why the Koran needs to be studied. The Christians will better understand how God, the Holy Spirit and al the Prophets are connected.

Qur’an 4:163-165
163 Lo! We inspire thee (Muhammad) as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms;
164 And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses;
165 Messengers of good cheer and off warning, in order that mankind might have no argument against Allah after the messengers. Allah was ever Mighty,

To me This is a very interesting reflection and very relevant, as Baha’u’llah has revealed the Station of Messenger of God.

"God took a covenant from the prophets, saying, “I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a Messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him.” He said, “Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfil this covenant?” They said, “We agree.” He said, “You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you.” 3:81

Regards Tony
 
JimmyDFG said:
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The Koran

“We have sent Our messengers with clear proofs and we brought down with them the scripture and the balance so that people may uphold justice” 57:25

One may have to consider this verse;

“We did not send before you any messenger nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. God records what the devil has done then God perfects His revelations. God is Omniscient, Most Wise.” 22:52

Regards Tony
 
What an extremely interesting MEDITATION from the Koran

“We did not send before you any messenger nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. God records what the devil has done then God perfects His revelations. God is Omniscient, Most Wise.” 22:52

This has so much wow factor in it that to me needs a lot of thought. To me it shows Free Will is indeed a Mystery of God.

Would be interesting to hear a Muslims thought on this passage. 👍

Regards Tony
 
Techno2000 said:
I’m just trying to show… the Baha’is… that the Devil is in the Details.
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Ha ha posted above then read this…See above dear Techno2000 😉 😉

It has interesting ramifications towards your statement 👍

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
“We did not send before you any messenger nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. God records what the devil has done then God perfects His revelations. God is Omniscient, Most Wise.” 22:52

Regards Tony
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What is that in reference to?
 
TonyBS said:
Ha ha posted above then read this…See above dear Techno2000 😉 😉

It has interesting ramifications towards your statement 👍

Regards Tony
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Ok, Muhammad taught Polygamy,what did Baha’u’llah teach ?
 
QUOTE posted From Tony “We did not send before you any messenger nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. God records what the devil has done then God perfects His revelations. God is Omniscient, Most Wise.” 22:52
JimmyDFG said:
What is that in reference to?
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Disclaimer 😉

This is purely my view on this passage;

To me it Shows that all Gods revelations have Rejection as a natural part of the process. God is recorded as saying “Man is My mystery, and I am his mystery.” From this link, which gives more thoughts on the subject reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/GWB/gwb-90.html

To me it appears that the Free Will Gifted by God is a Gift that God has to keep a finger on and give us a subsequent Revelation that will guide that Free Will from where we have taken it too, back to what God has intended for us 👍

Regards Tony
 
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