Study the Qur’an?

[Techno2000]

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Personally I think it is telling when total and utter blindness sets in:

• Muhammad said ABC
• Yes, the Lord gave those instructions to Moses too. Look its ABC.
  (silence)
• Yes but Jesus didn’t say it.
• Isn’t Jesus part of the Trinity?
• Yes.
• Did the Trinity instruct Moses?
  (silence)
• Baha’is are so vague. They dodge and weasel and dodge and hang on, let me find that quote about demons and false prophets.
• Let me repeat that quote again and again and again about false prophets and oh yes, demons and stuff…

Nothing vague here…

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Nicene Creed

We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the
Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son
he is worshipped and glorified.
**He has spoken through the Prophets. **
We believe in one holy
catholic and apostolic Church.

Nothing vague at all…He has spoken through the Prophets

 

[Servant19]

Nicene Creed

We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the
Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son
he is worshipped and glorified.
**He has spoken through the Prophets. **
We believe in one holy
catholic and apostolic Church.

Nothing vague at all…He has spoken through the Prophets

Meaning He has spoken through Moses and massacred thousands of men women and children. Why blame Muhammad for all the same stuff then??
It’s the Trinity God speaking again, in EXACTLY The same way…

(cue the false prophet quotes)

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[Techno2000]

Meaning He has spoken through Moses and massacred thousands of men women and children. Why blame Muhammad for all the same stuff then??
It’s the Trinity God speaking again, in EXACTLY The same way…

(cue the false prophet quotes)

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Like I said before… Jesus (The Trinity) Christ was massacred along with them, and rose from the Dead, and open up Heaven for Mankind.

 

[worldcitizen]

Yeah, but who cares Buddha didn’t even believe in God, and they Believe that people can come back as rats ,dogs bulls, and everything inbetween.

That’s the counterfeit teachings that would replace His original teachings.

Buddha also taught there was a God but all we have is this proof that He did teach about God.

"There is, O monks, an unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, unformed. Were there not, O monks, this unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, unformed, there would be no escape from the world of the born, originated, created, formed. “Since, O monks, there is an unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, and unformed, therefore is there an escape from the born, originated, created, formed.” Gospel of Buddha

 

[Techno2000]

That’s the counterfeit teachings that would replace His original teachings.

Buddha also taught there was a God but all we have is this proof that He did teach about God.

"There is, O monks, an unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, unformed. Were there not, O monks, this unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, unformed, there would be no escape from the world of the born, originated, created, formed. “Since, O monks, there is an unborn, unoriginated, uncreated, and unformed, therefore is there an escape from the born, originated, created, formed.” Gospel of Buddha

That as clear as Mud.

 

[Servant19]

Like I said before… Jesus (The Trinity) Christ was massacred along with them, and rose from the Dead, and open up Heaven for Mankind.

Can you show me the evidence for Jesus dying with the Amalekites or the Canaanites please?

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[Techno2000]

Can you show me the evidence for Jesus dying with the Amalekites or the Canaanites please?

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God created their spirits to live forever, which is more important that temporary flesh as long as the Just ones of the Amalekites and Canaanites clan went to Heaven …all’s well, that ends well , God wiped away every tear when they got to Heaven.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 10:28

 

[worldcitizen]

That as clear as Mud.

Buddha says there is an ‘uncreated’. Wonder Who that could be?

God was not created or born do He’s referring to God.

And then Buddha says that if there wasn’t this 'uncreated meaning God, ’ then creation couldn’t exist.

 

[Techno2000]

Buddha says there is an ‘uncreated’. Wonder Who that could be?

God was not created or born do He’s referring to God.

And then Buddha says that if there wasn’t this 'uncreated meaning God, ’ then creation couldn’t exist.

Even if Buddha believed in some kind of God what’s is your point, Buddhism is a pagan religion .

 

[Servant19]

God created their spirits to live forever, which is more important that temporary flesh as long as the Just ones of the Amalekites and Canaanites clan went to Heaven …all’s well, that ends well , God wiped away every tear when they got to Heaven.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 10:28

So in that case, what’s wrong with Muhammad being ordered by God to kill people as a means for self defense?

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[castle_hunter]

XXIV: Beware, O believers in the Unity of God,…

Beware, O believers in the Unity of God, lest ye be tempted to make any distinction between any of the Manifestations of His Cause, or to discriminate against the signs that have accompanied and proclaimed their Revelation. This indeed is the true meaning of Divine Unity, if ye be of them that apprehend and believe this truth. Be ye assured, moreover, that the works and acts of each and every one of these Manifestations of God, nay whatever pertaineth unto them, and whatsoever they may manifest in the future, are all ordained by God, and are a reflection of His Will and Purpose. Whoso maketh the slightest possible difference between their persons, their words, their messages, their acts and manners, hath indeed disbelieved in God, hath repudiated His signs, and betrayed the Cause of His Messengers.

What was that and what was it supposed to prove?

 

[castle_hunter]

Thank you. Authority is only “till the end of the Age”, not for the duration of the earths existence.

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Correct.
The age. Not an age.

 

[Techno2000]

What was that and what was it supposed to prove?

That one Religion, is Just as Good as another.

 

[TonyBS]

Like I said before… Jesus (The Trinity) Christ was massacred along with them, and rose from the Dead, and open up Heaven for Mankind.

Every Messenger Has a different Roll and way the religion unfolds - Muhammad was different from Christ in that respect, but…

Lets try just One other then - The Bab

Look at His Life His Message and His Martyrdom phoenixbahaicommunity.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Parallels-between-the-Lives-of-Christ-and-the-B%C3%A1b-revised.pdf

Mirrors Jesus message, bogus trial and sacrifice of Life uncannily, denigh the Bab did not Suffer the same as Christ, then you would have to denigh anything Special About Christ as well

Here is a Few

Anyone reading the martyrdoms of both Jesus and the Báb, will notice some very intriguing similarities…
The age of the Báb and length of His mission are similar to those of Jesus.

1 Both had farcical trials with predictable conclusions.
2 The Báb is put to death on the eve of Ramadan, exactly as Jesus is martyred on the eve of Sabbath and the Passover, for the same reasons.
3 The Báb being paraded through town on an ***(Donkey as word not allowed) recalls Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem.
4 The Báb met His martyrdom at noon, which is the time Jesus was taken away to His death in John.
5 Both are suspended in the air, have one fellow-companion going to Paradise, and the same words are uttered for their going there.
6 The Báb instructs His disciples to deny their faith, much as Jesus’ disciples fled and denied Him in order for His faith to continue.
7 Both the Báb and Jesus demonstrate a power over martyrdom that shows it was a voluntary death.
8 Both are struck by a sword / spear.
9 The disappearance of the Báb before the people, is similar to Jesus’ disappearance from the tomb.
10 A long darkness (and other natural wonders) follows the deaths of both the Báb and Jesus.
11 Guards are posted over both the Báb’s and Jesus’ bodies so that their bodies are not taken, but both fail in their jobs.
12 The bodies of both the Báb and Jesus are both found disappeared on the third day.
13 In both cases a report is spread abroad to cover the disappearance.

God bless and Regards Tony

 

[Servant19]

Correct.
The age. Not an age.

Yes the Adamic Age finished with the Bab

Baha’u’llah ushered in a new Age of religious history which will last 500,000 years and will have more Manifestations of God periodically within it.

God’s Covenant is that He will never leave humans alone without direct Guidance.

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[castle_hunter]

How about 200 years ago?? (Maxwell Smart says to himself - I missed it by that much)

How about 300 years ago. Or 400 years ago. Or since the 70s.

There’s an English new age fella called David Icke who claims a new age started in the 1990s.
perhaps the bahais time has come and gone and the truth is still no longer found there.

 

[castle_hunter]

Yes the Adamic Age finished with the Bab

Baha’u’llah ushered in a new Age of religious history which will last 500,000 years and will have more Manifestations of God periodically within it.

God’s Covenant is that He will never leave humans alone without direct Guidance.

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He doesn’t.
We
have the holy spirit when we accept christ.

 

[Techno2000]

How about 300 years ago. Or 400 years ago. Or since the 70s.

There’s an English new age fella called David Icke who claims a new age started in the 1990s.
perhaps the bahais time has come and gone and the truth is still no longer found there.

I think the New Age movement started with the Báb.

 

[Servant19]

He doesn’t.
We
have the holy spirit when we accept christ.

No you don’t…

Because the Orthodox say they have the Holy Spirit
So do the Eastern Orthodox
So do the Nestorian Churches

That’s not a very Holy Spirit.

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[castle_hunter]

Baha’u’llah ushered in a new Age of religious history which will last 500,000 years and will have more Manifestations of God periodically within it.
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he didn’t usher in anything though did he.
just rehashed previous ideas and in order to create his own religion.
been done before and it’ll be done again. It was being done around the same time by Joseph Smith. And that’s what he is at the end of the day isn’t he, a Muslim Joseph Smith.