Support for gun control down dramatically since 2012

[Brendan]

I do too, I work as well. I have a family. You and I have our similarities your not more than me nor am I more than you. You make it sound like your situation is better than mine.

Why so, if anything, it seems that YOUR situation is better than mine.

You seem to be fully protected against all dangers to your family when they leave your home.

I, on the other hand, cannot say so. Ergo, my defense of them must extend beyond my home.

 

[chero23]

Why so, if anything, it seems that YOUR situation is better than mine.

You seem to be fully protected against all dangers to your family when they leave your home.

I, on the other hand, cannot say so. Ergo, my defense of them must extend beyond my home.

So like you said in post 44, so your intimadated by the people outside?

 

[chero23]

Why so, if anything, it seems that YOUR situation is better than mine.

You seem to be fully protected against all dangers to your family when they leave your home.

I, on the other hand, cannot say so. Ergo, my defense of them must extend beyond my home.

Plus i never said my situation is better than yours.

I Said very clearly, A) I hate guns but I understand people having it at home. B) I want all schools to have armed, hear me right armed guards. No more Columbine, No more Sandy Hook. C) One should not be carrying handguns out in the open, I stand by it.

I worked for a private ambulance company, we would go to the Dallas County Jail. Well when the officers walked into the jail, they could not take their guns. I asked one of them why not. They said, bc if we get attacked they dont have a weapon. to use. Even at the jail here they don’t want to use guns. Its just something to think about it.

Look I get it, I understand theirs bad people out there. I understand that your a parent and have a family to look out for. I am not saying guns in its totality is wrong, what I am saying is that we have to look at it by situations, not just say, I want one and Im getting one.

 

[Brendan]

So like you said in post 44, so your intimadated by the people outside?

No more so than being intimidated by an injury, but that doesn’t stop me from keeping a first aid kit around either.

Being prepared is always a good thing.

 

[chero23]

No more so than being intimidated by an injury, but that doesn’t stop me from keeping a first aid kit around either.

Being prepared is always a good thing.

Im with you, I always carry cones with me in my car, for just in case i see a stalled car. (Something whch I picked up form my 3 years in the Dallas Fire Dept)

 

[a_priori]

The Social Justice Committee in my parish works with the state legislature in support of gun control. I didn’t know the Bible or Early Church Fathers had a problem with high-capacity magazines.

 

[captainrick]

Im with you, I always carry cones with me in my car, for just in case i see a stalled car. (Something whch I picked up form my 3 years in the Dallas Fire Dept)

Same here - but carry road flares too for nighttime emergencies!

 

[captainrick]

Plus i never said my situation is better than yours.

I Said very clearly, A) I hate guns but I understand people having it at home. B) I want all schools to have armed, hear me right armed guards. No more Columbine, No more Sandy Hook. C) One should not be carrying handguns out in the open, I stand by it.

I worked for a private ambulance company, we would go to the Dallas County Jail. Well when the officers walked into the jail, they could not take their guns. I asked one of them why not. They said, bc if we get attacked they dont have a weapon. to use. Even at the jail here they don’t want to use guns. Its just something to think about it.

Look I get it, I understand theirs bad people out there. I understand that your a parent and have a family to look out for. I am not saying guns in its totality is wrong, what I am saying is that we have to look at it by situations, not just say, I want one and Im getting one.

Of course they don’t carry in a jail - surrounded by violent inmates. A bit different than a school!

 

[RGCheek]

Hey! A tutu doesn’t cover the arms, and we have the Constitutional right to bare arms!

 

[RGCheek]

Have you actually used your gun? Besides hunting?

I am a five year US Army Infantry veteran; what do you think?

You know guns were used to defend your house, not to use your gun in the streets.

Where do you get that idea? Ever hear of ‘gun fights’? People have defended themselves in public with guns for centuries. Whatever/whoever gave you the idea that guns are only to be kept at home is apparently unaware of the FACTGS about gun ownership and use.

That’s just my opinion. I think you can have a gun at home, not a gun fan, but athome I’m ok. When you go around carrying a gun I think it can cause problems.

What you think only matters at the polls, dude. The Constitution of the USA says you are wrong.

 

[RGCheek]

So like you said in post 44, so your intimadated by the people outside?

Because statistics show it is safer to hitchhike across the USA outside of urban areas than to walk through urban US areas at night.

If you wouldn’t hitch hike due to it being unsafe then you certainly shouldn’t be out at night in DC, Chicago or New Orleans without a gun.

 

[chero23]

I am a five year US Army Infantry veteran; what do you think?

Where do you get that idea? Ever hear of ‘gun fights’? People have defended themselves in public with guns for centuries. Whatever/whoever gave you the idea that guns are only to be kept at home is apparently unaware of the FACTGS about gun ownership and use.

What you think only matters at the polls, dude. The Constitution of the USA says you are wrong.

The constitution might say I am wrong, but the law of the land also accepts abortion. I don’t think that’s very reliable. Can’t have it both ways.

 

[RGCheek]

The constitution might say I am wrong, but the law of the land also accepts abortion. I don’t think that’s very reliable. Can’t have it both ways.

Abortion rights are not in the Constitution, only ‘found’ in the penumbra of its shadow. (Meaning it aint really there)

 

[styrgwillidar]

The Social Justice Committee in my parish works with the state legislature in support of gun control. I didn’t know the Bible or Early Church Fathers had a problem with-] high-capacity magazines/-] standard capacity magazines.

Fixed it for you. ‘High capacity magazines’ and ‘assault weapon’ are legal terms not technical terms related to the capability or design of the weapon.

 

[styrgwillidar]

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You know guns were used to defend your house, not to use your gun in the streets.
…

Uh, no. At least not according to the dicta in Heller and McDonald at SCOTUS, and in Peruta vs County of San Diego at the 9th court. According to those courts the intention of the founding fathers was to assure the population that the right the colonists had under British rule to keep and bear arms (well protestants, not catholics) against tyranny of the crown, self-defense and hunting (Yes. SCOTUS ruled that 2nd amendment does indeed encompass arms for hunting) would not be infringed upon by the new government.

The key to those rulings was the acknowledgement that 2a was written to assure a right which existed prior to the US being formed would be respected/upheld by the new government.

Hence, a lot of dicta centered on ‘bear’ and what bearing arms meant. The right to self-defense does not end at your doorway, you have it at all times. Bearing arms means carrying them, and carrying them outside the home.

 

[Tigg]

Jumping right in here without having read this thread.

One point I find interesting is the increasing number of women who are opposed to gun control. They do not want to be victims and are tired of being afraid with the escalating violence of the culture. They are speaking out more frequently in political ads and on gun ranges. They want to make themselves safe without having to rely on someone else. There are even more options available to them in carrying equipment and there are women only shooting clubs.

 

[chero23]

Abortion rights are not in the Constitution, only ‘found’ in the penumbra of its shadow. (Meaning it aint really there)

So what your saying is trying to use a “cop out”. Read the 14th ammendment. You might say oh its not there, but the implication is there. Its that simple.

 

[chero23]

IDK jow much trut you can give to our courts when they are allowing abortion, gay marriages. IDK as a Catholic how you can knit pick things for your own benefit.

 

[RGCheek]

So what your saying is trying to use a “cop out”. Read the 14th ammendment. You might say oh its not there, but the implication is there. Its that simple.

Due process gives mothers the right to kill their unborn babies? Where is that in the 14th amendment?

It amazes me how some can see implied rights that are not written but cant see rights plainly written like gun rights.

 

[RGCheek]

IDK jow much trut you can give to our courts when they are allowing abortion, gay marriages. IDK as a Catholic how you can knit pick things for your own benefit.

The pendulum has swung to the personal liberty end of the spectrum.

Expanding gun rights as much as possible for the duration of this fad in law I believe to be my sacred duty.