Synagogue Shooting

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I was curious because, when I went in search of information, the few (3) diocese I was able to locate all had exemptions.
 
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1cthlctrth said:
Average yearly death statistics to consider:
  • 32,885 auto accidents
  • 10,839 drunk driving
  • 1,817 knives
  • 674 blunt objects
  • 453 rifles
  • 18 military style assault rifles
    Guns are safer than many things we use on a daily basis. Nobody would say we should ban automobiles.
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This does not prove guns are safer. Since we use cars much more than guns, even if cars are safer, there are going to be more car accidents. A more relevant statistic would be deaths per unit of time used.
 
1cthlctrth said:
Average yearly death statistics to consider:
  • 32,885 auto accidents
  • 10,839 drunk driving
  • 1,817 knives
  • 674 blunt objects
  • 453 rifles
  • 18 military style assault rifles
    Guns are safer than many things we use on a daily basis. Nobody would say we should ban automobiles
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Don’t know about the place you live, but where I live there are some significant restrictions on automobiles. Every car and its ownership must be registered with the Government before it can be used; the owner must be registered with the Government, and must be licensed by the Government before they can drive; the owner must pay an annual fee to the Government; the car must, once it is over a certain age, be tested annually by Government-licensed mechanics for safety; any driver must by law be insured for any injury or damage they may cause while driving; any driver must have passed a Government test before they can drive alone, and otherwise, while under training, must be accompanied by a licensed driver. Offending against these or any other motoring laws can cause the removal of the licence to drive.

How do these compare with the restrictions on weapons in your neck of the woods?
 
Would you provide me some links to statistics on how many times “show a weapon and they run away” happens?
 
People will tell you that you don’t have a right to a car or how you use it. They forget that your ability to travel is one of your constitutional rights. So, if how you travel can be legislated, why can’t how you protect yourself also be legislated?

Just asking. I personally am pro-gun (up to a point – no machine guns or tanks). But I am also pro-car.
 
That’s a tough one, considering that since a crime is thereby prevented, no report is made.
 
So we cannot really know that brandishing of a weapon by a private citizen is an effective means of deterring crime, right?
 
Way too pop up ad infested. If you get a chance to find a link to a study, I would read it.
 
sallybutler said:
People will tell you that you don’t have a right to a car or how you use it. They forget that your ability to travel is one of your constitutional rights. So, if how you travel can be legislated, why can’t how you protect yourself also be legislated?
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Yes. Thing is there are, as always, conflicting rights. We have the right to protect ourselves, but how we do so is restricted by law, whether that be by restrictions on our weaponry (even in the US, I believe, some weapons are forbidden the general citizenry) or restrictions on how much damage we may inflict on an assailant.

We have the right to travel, but also the right to travel safely, so there are things like licensing and traffic lights and safe driving laws.

The difference is that few people object in principle to restrictions on our right to travel, but many seem in practice to object in principle to restrictions on our right to protect ourselves with deadly weapons.
 
Thanks for the post, I will spend more time. Cursory glance did not see stats where brandishing a weapon caused a decrease in crime. I will read it more.
 
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Anecdotes can make for good talking points!

I’m still waiting on some statistics. (Doubt people are going to write or that the NRA website would publish anecdotes where “I saw what looked like a prowler, showed him my gun and, he pulled his gun then he came in and robbed our house”.)
 
TheLittleLady said:
I’m still waiting on some statistics. (Doubt people are going to write or that the NRA website would publish anecdotes where “I saw what looked like a prowler, showed him my gun and, he pulled his gun then he came in and robbed our house”.)
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Here:

www.nraila.org

NRA-ILA | Crime Statistics

These files -- for the U.S., the 50 states, and the District of Columbia -- contain annual statistics for total, serious, violent, and property crimes and incarcerations.
www.nraila.org www.nraila.org
 
Thank you. I just cannot accept NRA as a valid source, I don’t expect Kroger to provide me statistics about WalMart Corporate Policies.
 
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