Ted Cruz Dropping Out of Republican Presidential Race

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Not true fabrication as usual.

What specifically would you like to discuss? You have no more of a point than Hillary over time changing her view on gays. Are you saying Hillary will now persecute gays?

Its quite clear by the dates his position evolved pro -pro life, just like Hillary has evolved. People change thats what they do?

Now is there anything specific?
 
So your saying that Bush and a super majority lead house and Senate of 4 years had no responsibility?

Boy!!!
No, they had responsibility and they tried to stop what they knew was going to be a bad collapse. Go here: youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

None of the players, from Clinton, through Bush, are completely clean in that mess. But, Bush’s admin did see what was coming and they did try to stop it. Neither the Democrats, nor the media, want anyone to know that.
 
Many people do not understand that there are any number of things that doctors and women can say threatens the life of a pregnant woman. That is all it will take.
I don’t agree with this. Medical falsification can be determined by other medical people.
 
No, they had responsibility and they tried to stop what they knew was going to be a bad collapse. Go here: youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

None of the players, from Clinton, through Bush, are completely clean in that mess. But, Bush’s admin did see what was coming and they did try to stop it. Neither the Democrats, nor the media, want anyone to know that.
But how could they have not stopped it, when they had 4 years of a super heavy led House and Senate?

I can’t wrap my head around it, how can you say, well he did but those democrats didn’t let him. The guy had 4 years to get it done. He has as much burden or more bc he had a lot of power and let it go.
 
Not true fabrication as usual.

What specifically would you like to discuss? You have no more of a point than Hillary over time changing her view on gays. Are you saying Hillary will now persecute gays?

Its quite clear by the dates his position evolved pro -pro life, just like Hillary has evolved. People change thats what they do?

Now is there anything specific?
How can it be fabricated. Hear it and watch trump say it. It was not edited or fabricated, the man was more confused than a drunk man who had been stopped by the police and kept going in circles with his story,
 
I don’t agree with this. Medical falsification can be determined by other medical people.
True, in most cases. But not with abortion–no one will question a woman or doctors view about the need for an abortion.
 
It is very simple. Trump says he is for the exceptions for incest, rape, and the life of the mother. That equals abortion on demand.

If he is truly pro-life, he should prove it by promising to nominate Cruz to the SC and by picking a 100% pro-life VP candidate.
We agree on something, Trump is pro-choice. Kasich holds the same view.
 
That’s support for abortion on demand, then. You might hate Trump, you might think you have judged his heart correctly. But to yield the field to the like of Hillary Clinton is irresponsible.
In what way does not wanting to vote for anyone that supports abortion make myself a supporter of abortion? Every candidate left in the race is pro-abortion. I don’t feel obligated to trust any democrat or anyone that was a democrat until he “magically became a republican” right before election season started. That doesn’t make me pro-abortion, it means I haven’t been swayed by his lies and know what kind of person he really is. He did fund Hillary, after all.
 
So your saying that Bush and a super majority lead house and Senate of 4 years had no responsibility?

Boy!!!
BTW, referring to a super majority normally means the party has 60 or more votes, which makes it a filibuster proof position. Bush never enjoyed those numbers. The most he ever had was 55 Republican Senators–five short of a filibuster proof number.
 
In what way does not wanting to vote for anyone that supports abortion make myself a supporter of abortion? Every candidate left in the race is pro-abortion. I don’t feel obligated to trust any democrat or anyone that was a democrat until he “magically became a republican” right before election season started. That doesn’t make me pro-abortion, it means I haven’t been swayed by his lies and know what kind of person he really is. He did fund Hillary, after all.
I wouldn’t continue to dialogue with those individuals. Their going to make everything you say, a pro abortion on demand type of person. Just let it go. If you have any questions I would rather speak about it with my priest.
 
We agree on something, Trump is pro-choice. Kasich holds the same view.
I think we likely agree on many things. 🙂

Yes, Trump and Kasich are nearly identical regarding abortion. I heard Kasich is on Trump’s list for the VP spot, one of several. If he chooses Kasich, that will say a lot about Trump’s stance on abortion.
 
Trump is pro-choice. Kasich holds the same view
Nonsense and no-one has made that case only accusations based on speculation. In fact John wanted to ban abortion and contraception.

😊 really, I expect better debates and laid out points here by the Democrats. 😛
 
BTW, referring to a super majority normally means the party has 60 or more votes, which makes it a filibuster proof position. Bush never enjoyed those numbers. The most he ever had was 55 Republican Senators–five short of a filibuster proof number.
But correct me if I’m wrong. At this time, Bush, Republicans and the right, whenever a major issue was brought up, if you voted against them, they said you were not American and unpatriotic. Remember that? That’s how they swept the 2002 and 2004 elections.
 
In what way does not wanting to vote for anyone that supports abortion make myself a supporter of abortion? Every candidate left in the race is pro-abortion. I don’t feel obligated to trust any democrat or anyone that was a democrat until he “magically became a republican” right before election season started. That doesn’t make me pro-abortion, it means I haven’t been swayed by his lies and know what kind of person he really is. He did fund Hillary, after all.
I agree, which is why I feel Trump needs to extend a real statement to social conservatives. If he promised to nominate Cruz to the SC, and if he selects a 100% prolife person as his VP, that will convince many (including me) that he cares about those issues.

If he goes the other way and chooses moderates like himself, then that tells us what we need to know too.
 
But correct me if I’m wrong. At this time, Bush, Republicans and the right, whenever a major issue was brought up, if you voted against them, they said you were not American and unpatriotic. Remember that? That’s how they swept the 2002 and 2004 elections.
Some on the right said stupid things like that. Not very many, but the media ran with those who did say such stupid things.

But, no matter, Bush is long gone.
 
Nonsense and no-one has made that case only accusations based on speculation. In fact John wanted to ban abortion and contraception.

😊 really, I expect better debates and laid out points here by the Democrats. 😛
Trump and Kasich have both stated they are for the three major exceptions. You seem in denial about those exceptions, yet the reality is, those exceptions equal abortion on demand. There is not a wafer of difference between the two regarding their spoken words about abortion.

Some want to feel better about voting for Trump by insisting he is pro-life, they refuse to see that any person who holds those three exceptions is NOT pro-life.
 
Some on the right said stupid things like that. Not very many, but the media ran with those who did say such stupid things.

But, no matter, Bush is long gone.
Yes, and I don’t see many people here apologizing for those statements. Every time, the left gets blamed.

It was unfortunate, you are right, and both sides have skeletons in their respective closets. If we continue to see the opposite side as an enemy, and not see them as our brother, as our fellow American, were going to drive this country to the ground.
 
Oh please this is getting way too emotional based now for me.

Let me know when you actually have a point about abortion. More leftist baseless rant :rolleyes:
the left gets blamed.
 
The Republican Party had the chance, but that party died a while ago. Remnants are still out there, but the truth is that social conservative do not have representation on a national level.
Well-put.

I truly think the leadership of the Republican Party would like nothing more than to see the “social” conservative issues of anti-choice and anti-gay go away forever. This autopsy that the Party put together after their 2012 presidential defeat basically says that in plain language: goproject.gop.com/RNC_Growth_Opportunity_Book_2013.pdf

It’s clear that the people who have voted Trump to the ticket are comfortable with his personal positions on the LGBT community and abortion. His positions on those issues are admittedly all over the place, but they are in no way shape or form the traditional positions of the Republican Party.

Younger voters are turned off by the Party’s focus on those issues. I wonder if, following this election cycle, a new Party will spring forth to serve the citizens of our nation for whom stances on these issues are non-negotiable.
 
Oh please this is getting way too emotional based now for me.

Let me know when you actually have a point about abortion. More leftist baseless rant :rolleyes:
When has a person here has said, “that was a republican mistake”.

Every time you hear this, “Well, democrats do it”, or “it’s just the liberal media”.

Why don’t you ask right wing people on here to grow up and take responsibility?
 
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