Televangelist tells worshippers to keep giving to the church, even if they have lost their jobs during this time

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Many of our parishes still have mortgage payments to make, salares to pay and
utility bills to pay. Our church just completed an extensive remodeling project 6
months before this happened and are still paying for it. I plan to still give to the church during this time.

I don’t watch televangelists and I am Catholic so I am going to think of my parish at this time.
 
I also told a story about their expectations on us paying our “backpay” to the parish. Thought it was relevant to the thread. Sorry you disagree.
 
Sounds like you are confusing the Mormon church with the Catholic Church. Since not all Catholics use envelops, electronic transfer, or even checks to give, there is no way to know who needs to “back pay” the parish. Was this another announcement in the bulletin? A post on the parish’s website? Facebook page? An email from the Priest?

Are there any other Catholics here who have heard this expectation from their parish? I work in a parish office with one of the most penny pinching business managers out there and even she hasn’t floated this idea. (She is very penny pinching but we do have money in the bank, praise be to God)
 
another example of why I’m glad I found the Church and didn’t fall into evangelist Protestantism when looking for a home in Christianity

(not that all evangelists are bad, but grifting televangelists like this guy make me more content with my decisions)
 
TC3033 said:
Yep. Including how to figure out how much we still “owe”.
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Please post a picture of the announcement with the date please. Of course you may obscure location and such as I wouldn’t share that info myself.
 
I’ll have to see if it’s still available on their website. Sorry, but I don’t think the date will be available.

Problem is, if I do this it’ll be pretty easy to figure out where I am.
 
My parish does not pressure people in any way to give. Those who ask are told that 5% to the church and 5% to charity is appreciated for those who can afford it. We are about to take on a large mortgage for a new ministry building that has just had all approvals finally completed. It’s a scary time.
 
Almost all televangelists have been arrested before. I cant even remember all the names. Popoff , Swaggart , Grant , Jim Baker , etc etc.
Very sad, and some of them have been repeatedly allowed to evangelize again.
 
Oh yeah. I think every televangelist is a multi-millionaire. What a coincidence and counter-scriptural.
 
That is a good general rule but have you ever seen a Catholic parish “enforce” such a rule. We are all obligated to support our local parish but I know many people who may give some to the local parish and much more to a Catholic charity that is close to their heart.

My pastor actually does know my salary as I work for the parish and I’ve never heard anything about how much I “should” be giving and I do not give 10% to the parish. I do give to my parish and it’s not insignificant but I also give to other charities. Quite honestly he would have no way of know that unless I said something.
 
Well, if you’re like the folks at my parish office, the extra time put in more than makes up for any monetary contribution.
 
Did the good preacher get his new private plane he was pushing for? I can recall him saying he didn’t want to be on a tube with demons…meaning commercial flight.


This prosperity gospel is a perversion of the true gospel.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Many of our parishes still have mortgage payments to make, salares to pay and
utility bills to pay. Our church just completed an extensive remodeling project 6
months before this happened and are still paying for it. I plan to still give to the church during this time.

I don’t watch televangelists and I am Catholic so I am going to think of my parish at this time.
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Yes. Parish operating expenses continue even when Liturgy isn’t open to the congregation. I am also going to continue with my weekly donations. We also are in the middle of a huge project and those expenses are continuing as well. I understand if circumstances make it harder for people to continue giving, but for those of us who can continue to give, we definitely should.
 
Well I do give more than 10%, just not all to the local parish. Fortunately I’m a position where I can be a little more generous than some. Not wealthy by any standard but low living expenses and no debt.
 
Yes, they will. They want to ensure they stay rich. The answer to his kind was given by Our Lord in Mark 12: 41-44.
 
catholic03 said:
But those pastors who ask unemployed people to chip in for their new car or jet plane are clearly selfish and have not heard the cry of the poor.
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I won’t be surprised if some of these pastors are sociopaths, wolves in sheep’s clothing, preying on the vulnerable.
 
Horton said:
How in the world would the parish know how much a parishioner “owed”? Do they have records of peoples income? Does this parish make people turn in tax forms when no other parish in the world does?
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Actually, I have heard of at least one Baptist church that does this. They want you to prove how much you earn, and make sure you tithe accordingly. I would imagine that the LDS (Mormon/COJCOLDS) has some form of verification, though I would hope they’d stop short of financial auditing. Anyone here LDS or with knowledge of LDS know?

I am so thankful that the Catholic Church doesn’t do anything like this, though I must concede that the Diocese of Wichita’s 8% rule — give 8% and your children attend Catholic school for free (only it’s not really “free”) — is only fair. I never figured out if we were on some sort of “peon list” at my son’s former Catholic school, as our parish donations and other contributions outside of tuition were always, of necessity, very modest. It was all I could do, to scrape tuition and a minimal weekly donation together, let alone anything else. I have reason to believe they had an issue with this — more than this, I cannot speculate on publicly, though I have my thoughts.

Catholic education shouldn’t be solely the province of the well-to-do, and those of lesser means shouldn’t have to undergo financial micro-management of their home budget to qualify for aid. That’s pretty demeaning as well as invasive. Every family’s needs are different.
 
There are some evangelists with a good heart, but they generally have a strong emphasis on the outcome of the evangelism, that is more members to the church than the process.
 
HomeschoolDad said:
I would imagine that the LDS (Mormon/COJCOLDS) has some form of verification, though I would hope they’d stop short of financial auditing. Anyone here LDS or with knowledge of LDS know?
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The LDS do have a form of verification. It’s an annual tithing meeting. A member meets the bishop or some other representative of their ward and reviews their tax returns to make sure they’ve given their 10% tithe. It’s one of the ways they determine “worthiness”.
HomeschoolDad said:
I am so thankful that the Catholic Church doesn’t do anything like this
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TC3033 said:
Understood, but this also came from a parish where when they were trying to raise funds back in the fall told people that they should be giving 10%. If you haven’t been giving for some time, or haven’t been giving that much it would be easy to figure out how much you “owe” the church and should think about paying that in one lump sum to help them out.
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TC3033 said:
No, but they know how much everyone gave and could provide that. If it didn’t equal up to 10% then it was easy for that family to figure out how much they still “owed”.
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TC3033 said:
I also told a story about their expectations on us paying our “backpay” to the parish.
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@HomeschoolDad I’ve never seen it or ever heard about it in a Catholic parish but this poster states his wife’s parish is keeping track.
 
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