Testimony: Trump dossier not made-up; not politically motivated

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Q. I think when you were speaking with my
3 colleagues you described your work as open ended
4 and not results directed. Can you explain a little
5 more what you mean by that?
6 A. Sure. Another thing we say about our work
7 is it’s custom information, it’s a customized
8 product. You tell us what your problem is and we
9 customize a research solution. In general when
10 people come to us and they tell us what their
11 challenge is, we stipulate that they retain us for
12 30 days, they agree to pay our fee, they don’t tell
13 us what to do, they don’t tell us, you know, what
14 result to get. I like to call it a holistic
15 methodology.
16 The reason we do it that way, you know, A, we
17 are professionals and we feel like it’s not helpful
18 to have someone dictating how you do things, but,
19 B, if you predetermine the result that you’re
20 looking for you tend to miss things. So it’s
21 better – you know, it’s pure versus applied
22 science, right? You’re looking to understand how
23 things work before you understand what you might
24 need to address a particular problem.
25 What happens after you’ve done open-ended

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research is then, of course, you try to apply it to
2 the specific issues at hand. So if you’re not able
3 to get a government contract and you think the
4 other guy is up to something and we find out, you
5 know, indeed he’s been making, you know, payments
6 to somebody, you know, then we would, you know,
7 advise them on how to address that.
8 Q. So the way it’s structured you are
9 certainly free to follow the facts wherever they
10 may lead you in the course of research?
11 A. That’s right. You know, it’s a little
12 different in litigation where you’re working for an
13 attorney and he’s got specific things he needs,
14 like serving a witness or something like that, but
15 on the research side of it it’s – I have the
16 professional – basically I reserve for myself the
17 professional freedom to find out the answers.
18 Q. A January 11, 2017 New York Times article
19 described your firm, Fusion GPS, as a firm that
20 “Most often works for business clients, but in
21 presidential elections the firm is sometimes hired
22 by candidates, party organizations, or donors to do
23 political oppo work, short for opposition research
24 on the side.”
25 Is that an accurate description of the firm?
 
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1 A. In a shorthand way, yeah. I mean, it’s
2 consistent with the description I think I gave you.
3 We don’t do a lot of campaign work, but, you know,
4 every few years we do. And most of our clients are
5 not trying to win an election. They’re trying to
6 win a lawsuit or, you know, find out who ripped
7 them off.
8 Q. With regard to the political or campaign
9 work that you do, the same principles you’ve talked
10 about in terms of how the relationship is
11 structured, how the research is done, do those same
12 principles apply to that political or campaign
13 research as well?
14 A. Yes. There’s a limited number of examples
15 because we don’t do a lot of it, but, again, my
16 specialty is really sort of financial
17 investigations and business practices. In the
18 last – you know, in a current example we have a
19 businessman who had a far-flung business empire all
20 around the world. So, you know, that was a natural
21 subject for me. So we do, we investigate
22 multinational enterprises on a frequent basis.
23 Q. Just to be clear, when you say “in the
24 current example,” what are you referring to?
25 A. 2016 presidential election.

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    Q. And then, by extension, when you're
  2. talking about an international businessman, I
  3. presume you’re talking about then candidate now
  4. President Trump?
  5. A. Yes.
  6. Q.Ido want to ask you more about that, but
  7. before we get to that, in general, when you do the
  8. political or campaign work you’re equally free to
  9. follow the facts wherever they lead you and the
  10. firm Fusion GPS?
  11. A. Yes, that's right.
 
Right and I presume you know who Fusions client at this time was!

So most of this was speaking about fusion itself and what they do in “General” In General to me means we do other stuff too! Or we do it like this most of the time. In General.

They do Political research. This political research was done for the Dems campaign. It was politically motivated. I still don’t see why I should believe it was not made up?
 
Imdaman said:
I still don’t see why I should believe it was not made up?
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First you would have to be interest4d in knowing the truth, and then you would have to have the intellectual rigor to find out the truth…
 
mwigs said:
Fusion GPS: The FBI had an informant in Trump tower…
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Can you source this?
I am reading that Simpson learned that the FBI had information from “human source from inside the Trump organization”. It turns out that that is now presumed to refer to Papadopoulis.
mwigs said:
Fusion to Congress: One of the dossier sources was murdered, you know.
Fusion to CNN: Actually, we just meant that people in Russia have died since then.
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And your point? These suspicious deaths were reported at the time. I linked to those reports here.
 
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dvdjs said:
Can you source this?
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It’s in the transcript.
dvdjs said:
And your point? These suspicious deaths were reported at the time. I linked ot those reports here.
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Didn’t say anything about “suspicious deaths”. Statement was very direct with what was said, “somebody has been killed because of the dossier” and the point is that has now that’s just been changed to “mysterious string of deaths in Russia following the 2016 election”. See the difference?
 
I hope America will get the real facts and not what the democrats try to turn the story
into. I am still wondering if the FISA warrants could be connected to this in any way.
There is sure something rotten in Denmark!

I have no faith anymore in any story the democrats put forth. I consider them the least
likely to give the Americans the truth. They are good at covering up.
 
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mwigs said:
It’s in the transcript.
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  1. The word informant is not in the transcript.
    The phrase “Trump tower” does not occur in it in this context.
    Again, can you provide a source?
  2. I see the difference. But the statements are not contradictory. I would like to see the actual statements to find out what was actually said. Can you provide source documents for these?
 
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dvdjs said:
Again, can you provide a source?
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Never mind.
I found the source of the latter. Not in the transcript, but the gloss of some blogger that you quoted verbatim but neglected to cite. Oh. Kay
 
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You don’t know what you’re talking about and are spewing non-sense, really impressive. I’m not even going to bother responding to you with the pp in the transcript at this point.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I have no faith anymore in any story the democrats put forth.
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I’m going to take a wild guess and say that’s because Reps. are SO truthful:

Two Trump campaign associates, former national security adviser Michael Flynn and aide George Papadopoulos have pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in Mueller’s probe.

Wonder why they lied? Why would anyone lie to the FBI? That could cause one a whole bunch of trouble!

Anyway, don’t worry! The Rep. tactic of spinning, etc. got the entire dossier released, so any American who can read and comprehend has knowledge of the truth about Trump and Russia.
 
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mwigs said:
Didn’t say anything about “suspicious deaths”. Statement was very direct with what was said, “somebody has been killed because of the dossier” and the point is that has now that’s just been changed to “mysterious string of deaths in Russia following the 2016 election”. See the difference?
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I don’t see the change:

On Monday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein released a 312-page transcript of Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson’s August interview with the Senate Judiciary Committee. In that transcript, Simpson attorney Josh Levy tells the committee that his client “wants to be very careful to protect his sources.”

“Somebody’s already been killed as a result of the publication of this dossier and no harm should come to anybody related to this honest work,” Levy explains.

Makes no bones about the fact that the dossier is to blame.

Steele’s dossier was published in full by Buzzfeed in January 2017 after being offered to numerous news outlets. And it has been speculated that Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB general and chief of staff to Igor Sechin, was one of the primary sources for the document.

Sechin, the CEO of state-owned Russian oil giant Rosneft, plays a major role in the dossier, which accuses him of having secret meetings with Trump campaign officials as an intermediary of the Russian government. Erovinkin was found dead in his car in December 2016, according to Russian media. It was later claimed that he died of a heart attack.

I guess it’s not a"suspicious death" to anyone who believes anything the Russians put forth. They are, after all, known for their truthfulness. Oh, and those nesting dolls that hide, one inside the other.
 
Sean Hannity of Fox News, per Sarah Carter and 3 separate sources, is now reporting that the dossier was in-fact used to obtain FISA warrant(s)? and surveille members of the Trump campaign and that more shocking information is coming in the next few days, which will show substantial FISA abuse, and shredding of the Constitution and 4th Amendment.
 
I don’t trust anyone in the democrat party including Diane Feinstein. After the corruption I have seen from the Obama administration - the DOJ, the IRS, the FBI and I am sure more that we are not aware of along with the corruption of the Clinton campaign. I don’t trust Comey and why should I trust this testimony.
There is nothing trustworthy about the democrat party IMHO.
 
ConstantLearner said:
I don’t see the change:

On Monday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein released a 312-page transcript of Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson’s August interview with the Senate Judiciary Committee. In that transcript, Simpson attorney Josh Levy tells the committee that his client “wants to be very careful to protect his sources.”

“Somebody’s already been killed as a result of the publication of this dossier and no harm should come to anybody related to this honest work,” Levy explains.
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Yes, Levy said the above, but then on CNN on Tuesday night said there has been a string of mysterious deaths in Russia following the 2016 election. I would say that’s a big change from what Levy originally said.
 
Teakettle said:
Sean Hannity of Fox News, per Sarah Carter and 3 separate sources, is now reporting that the dossier was in-fact used to obtain FISA warrant(s)? and surveille members of the Trump campaign and that more shocking information is coming in the next few days, which will show substantial FISA abuse, and shredding of the Constitution and 4th Amendment.
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Well, don’t hold your breath. I’m still waiting on the “shocking news” about Clinton Trump promised, absolutely promised, during his campaign. Since it’s been 18 months, I should give up, but I’m a patient person.
 
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