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agnes_therese
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You almost certainly do, you just don’t know it.
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VeritasLuxMea
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They should replace MMA bouts with prayer battles. I would pay to watch that any day!
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The_Bucket
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If this was the late 1800s, your kids would have been exposed to minstrel shows. If it was the 1940s, the secular world would teach your kids that Japanese Americans should be placed in internment camps. If it was the 1950s, popular media would teach your kids that segregation is a proud tradition and that all homosexuals are secretly pedophiles and communists who deserve scorn and the federal govt to track their every move.
Just because the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction, don’t fall into the trap of romanticizing the past. Popular culture has never embodied the teachings of Christ.
Just because the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction, don’t fall into the trap of romanticizing the past. Popular culture has never embodied the teachings of Christ.
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TomFromMD
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I thought the same thing.
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jmcrae
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Or, “There are a lot of very confused people in the world. They do things that are stupid and wrong - not because they are bad people, but they just don’t know any better - and apparently it’s illegal to teach them anything.”
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davidn87
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Something that cracks me up about UK tv is that some shows like A Touch Of Frost, Midsomer Murders etc are edited when repeated in the afternoons for violence, but the soap operas on between 7 & 9pm can show people “in bed”. Heck, I’ve seen Midsomer Murders show nudity before 3’oclock in the afternoon!
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CaptBell800
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I have to say this is true. Even in the Middle Ages, at the peak of the Church, the romantic idea of knights pledging themselves to a (married) Lady sometimes bordered on the adulterous.
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Litcrit
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I have to take issue with what seems to be equating “innocence” with being lied to and kept in the dark about something natural, biological, normal, and constituting basic knowledge of how the world functions.
My daughter has known how babies are made since she was three. She is six and still plays with Legos too. She also knows some people like members of the same sex. She knows what “like” means in that context and it doesn’t even necessitate being acquainted with the mechanics of sex - someone “liking” someone is in every fairytale you can read to kids. Also, yes, in some places two people of the same sex can get legally married - which doesn’t mean everyone has to believe this is right. Lying is legal, too.
I think being told you could get pregnant by kissing a boy was simply wrong.
I don’t necessarily tell my kids about every gruesome murder or the death penalty or abortion, but how God designed for new beings to be created - why not? It IS innocent provided there’s nothing GUILTY about it.
Thank you. A great reminder.
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CradleJourney
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opus101
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You make it seem like this situation is all-pervasive throughout society. The truth is that only about 2% of the population identifies as gay.
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Kamaduck
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Just want to add my thoughts to this… I learned about the basic mechanics of sex when I was four, with the rest of human anatomy. The mistakes I have made in that area came from a lack of knowledge, not from learning things too early. I don’t think a kid will stop being “innocent” if he learns about sex, and I certainly don’t think it will be very easy to keep him from learning about sex until 5th grade.
I don’t remember when I learned about gay people. I know it was long before fifth grade. Everyone told me it was evil, so I never thought anything different. I don’t think knowing a thing exists makes someone more likely to accept it as good or acceptable.
I’m sure you know your kid, and I don’t think kids should be exposed to things that will harm them on TV (excessive violence, sexual scenes). Even so, I don’t think knowledge of simple facts harms a child. Ignorance will not save them from sin.
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Allegra
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That means that if you know 50 people, at least one of them is likely to be gay. Most people know quite a lot more than 50 people. My husband has more than that counting one side of his family.
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minkymurph
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I detest many things that are on television. For instance, coming up to Christmas the ad slot on children’s tv channels is longer, and they are bombarded with all these ‘must have’ things that truth told, they don’t even really want. My husband and I were at home one morning enjoying a day off work and we thought we would watch a good show on tv. What did we find? Jerry Springer, Trisha etc. etc. and a chat show were a panel of ‘experts’ presented their views on whether or not women should ‘fake’ orgasms. We ended up watching ‘The Clangers’ as it was the most intelligent thing on.
It is becoming more and more difficult to find anything on tv you can watch before the kids go to bed. Soap operas - I wouldn’t have one on in house. Not so much because of the morality but because I think they are moronic and an insult to one’s intelligence.
‘Women’s’ magazines - don’t start me. I wanted to buy a magazine to read on the train a few days ago. It didn’t matter which one I bought as they were all the same. Celebrities relationship break ups, plastic surgery and diets, someone who was raped, someone who was sexually abused by a relative, someone who was grossly overweight, had a gastric band fitted and now looks amazing, stories of plastic surgery gone wrong yet by contrast - a pile of ad’s for plastic surgery on the next page. Such is the modern world.
My view is we cannot adopt the ‘three monkey’s’ approach - hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. People will lead their lives the way they want to irrespective of what we think of it, and we cannot hide this from our children. They will find out whether we choose to talk to them about it or not and if we don’t talk to them, you can be rest assured someone else will.
Men marrying men and women marrying women is something we have to deal with today. Our children need to be given the life skills to deal with it as well. You know how much information your child can cope with better than anyone. Don’t give him any more information than he needs, but be honest because children appreciate honesty.
I can’t believe when I tell people we don’t really watch tv in the evening they can’t believe it, and ask me what we do? I listen to the radio more than I watch tv, and I love reliving my youth listening to all the old songs I love on youtube. As a family we listen to music more than we watch tv. My husband plays a guitar and he is teaching my kids. They have their own electric guitars and they have formed a ‘group’ and written song. If we watch tv we often watch box sets of a tv series we all like.
Make your own fun with your kids. We play a game my parents played with me as a child my kids love. One of them sits on a chair blindfold. We tell them they are on a plane and we lift the chair a few inches from the floor. We touch a book on their head and tell them they are touching the ceiling. The we tell them the plane is on fire and they have to jump. They are only an inch from the ground.
They now know the joke but they still love it and want to play it.
It all serves to distract them from screens.
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davidn87
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My Brother’s daughters go to Catholic school, and they’re a lot less well behaved than my Sister’s kids who go to ‘secular’ school. My S-I-L claims to be Catholic but never sets foot in church and they don’t get any sort of Catholic teaching at home.
I remember growing up in the 90’s, ‘gay’ men on tv were presented as a sort of ‘comic relief’. Cross dressers like ‘Dame Edna Everidge’ (a guy who always appeared ‘in character’ as a woman) and people like Graham Norton (hilariously camp) weren’t really to be taken seriously. Then the millennium came, and suddenly they were presented as ‘normal’.I don’t remember when I learned about gay people. I know it was long before fifth grade. Everyone told me it was evil, so I never thought anything different. I don’t think knowing a thing exists makes someone more likely to accept it as good or acceptable.
Ten years later, and when two lesbians in Coronation Street slept together for the first time, the scene ended by zooming to a Bible on their dresser. Now don’t tell me they’re not trying to wind us up!
A storyline in another soap featured a couple who got married, then another guy broke them up - and the woman was demonized as evil for trying to save the marriage! She left the show and later came back with a kid, again being portrayed as evil for trying to win the guy back…
And this is my favourite one… In another show, the wife of a Vicar had an affair. The storyline was hyped up as a “will they won’t they romance”! And naturally, the Vicar was the bad guy of the piece…
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Allegra
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That discrepancy can be caused by any number of factors and probably has little to do with the school. The point is, one can’t rely solely on a school to moralize their kid. It doesn’t matter if the teacher tells them homosexuality is sinful ten time a day, if mom and dad never say anything about it, they’re going to think it isn’t a big deal. Then they go out into the world and they think they are very alone and are likely to abandon their beliefs.
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davidn87
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I don’t know why they go to the schools anyway, my Brother’s an atheist and like I said, my Sister In Law does virtually nothing in any way religious.
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JackieMom
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I think it will be exceedingly difficult to keep your child from knowing about intercourse, reproduction and sexuality until the 5th grade. But, best of luck trying.
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VeritasLuxMea
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That is funny. It’s like, apparently it’s OK to see nipples now. NIPPLES!
But blood, guts, gore, other family friendly things? Ohhhh no, how terrible.
Preach it brother! Why can’t we go back to the good ol’ fashion days of mocking and ridiculing them mercilessly? What happened to our values? Really… such a shame.
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BlueEyedLady
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Not only that, it’s extremely irresponsible. A child who is “innocent” (read: ignorant) is far more likely to be a target of sexual abuse, not understand exactly why it is wrong, and struggle to communicate their concerns before the abuse occurs, and to report it afterwards.
That aside, they’ll hear it from everyone else first, and in doing so it will solidify in their minds that their parents either don’t think it’s important enough to talk about, don’t feel comfortable talking about it, think that sex is “evil”, don’t know much about it themselves, or any combination of the above.
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jmcrae
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Why don’t we just move forward to a time when “civil rights” are things like the right to vote, the right to be educated, and the right to be considered for any employment for which you are qualified, rather than making it about being allowed to do things that are physically impossible for you.Because if this trend continues, we’re going to be giving out driver’s licenses to blind people so that they can feel “included” in society - and that it would be horrible not to let blind people out on the roads, because the alternative would be to make fun of their disability.
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