The Anime Thread #1

[Lost_Wanderer]

I have an idea for your next research project:

“Water: Is it wet?”

Everyone knows porn rarely has aesthetic value, even people who don’t watch porn.

Sadly a lot of people aren’t even aware that reading trash fiction is something to be frowned upon. And get this: The awesome thing is you don’t have to be religious to believe in that.

Don’t underestimate the power of making people feel small and having poor taste.

And yeah, for fangirls two guys are enough, but two girls are enough for fanboys of shows like Dirty Pair. Please don’t be condescending about fangirls like some of my friends, you are yourself a fanboy and do not have the moral high ground you think you do, especially because you’ve convinced yourself you watch porn for the aesthetic value whereas most of them are honest with themselves about wanting to watch men go at it because they think it’s hot.

Meh, the fanboy is really just some guy I lock up in my head and one that I waterboard for info. I don’t really like reading porn at all (unless I’m hopelessly bored). I’m actually more addicted to explosive violence than sex.

Still, I write a lot of dark sexual scenarios for my own protagonists to bust up. The thing is very few ecchi anime have captured that dark, gritty feel needed for such scenarios when compared to hentai.

Also, I really don’t mind if yaoi fan girls do what they do. It’s just how far and widespread they are. I’m not the only one who thinks that there’s more yaoi than yuri you know.

Although, I guess you’re right that I can’t blame 'em. I’ve got one question though, what do you think of yaoi fans who think that yaoi has nothing to do with sexual orientation? You see that’s just one other thing that bugs me about them.

And I’m sorry to be the one to have to break it to you, but the only people who think anime archetypes are hot are otaku and harem leads, and the only girls like that are in harem shows. Real girls don’t act like that. And Sakura is so submissive because she was molested by her brother. I really don’t think that’s a trait you ought to eroticize or glamorize.

Well in their defense, archetypes are simply the basic stick figure of anime personalities that you base on before you add your own little twists and quirks (even contrary ones). Even in real life, everyone falls under a certain archetype even if it’s not completely. Heck I myself have been able to measure my personality to be 30% Anime Geek, 40% Cold Conservative, and 30% Lonely Emo.

P.S.

Well if we’re going to focus on the individual character, you have a point (and one reason why I’m glad her bro got cleaved in half). However, he wasn’t really her brother by blood. (In fact, wasn’t she Rin’s true sister?) Also, it’s pretty much just me liking shy, submissive girls in general. Don’t take this the wrong way but I hate girls that are loud, dominating, and the complete opposite of your usual damsel-in-distress. I’m not saying all girls should be like that (it’d be a pretty boring world). I would definitely, however, desire my future spouse to be of the quiet, timid, caring housewife variety.

My “fandom little sister” and I are working on a POWER OF FRIENDSHIP fantasy series with a 90%-female cast. It’s not “Catholics infiltrating the entertainment industry” by any means (she’s not even religious), but we want to write women who are interesting characters that aren’t turned into something for guys to drool over.

Well, don’t get your hopes up. A lot of things cause guys to drool (even if you didn’t want them to).

Sorry, my brain is now mush from finals. But seriously, there’s something to yaoi that seems to transcend pr0n. I can’t explain it, you take two average anime fangirls and have them watch a gay porn flick and watch them puke. Make the same two fangirls, give them a fanart pic of the two male characters of *Vampire Knight *and atch them squeel…oh geez, I can’t believe I’m even contemplating this as an academic discussion. You get the picture.

Actually, that can pretty much extend to the hentai fandom in general. Heck, while hentai can make my eyes roll, actual porn makes my wanna shoot myself… or better yet shoot the chauvinistic bozos who keep trying to shove it in my face.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

I like the manga version of Bleach. The anime version is okay, but it looks so much better in black and white. Also, anyone ever heard of D Gray-Man? One of my faves.

I like D.Gray-man too. It may no longer be a Jump series but if you were to have me choose between a Naruto shinobi, a Bleach shinigami, and a D.Gray-man exorcist, I’d pick exorcist as my anime job-class.

I get to serve the Lord and blow stuff up at the same time! Whooppee!!! >8D

 

[rocklobster]

That’s strange, because I’m the exact opposite with Bleach.

Dr. Gray-Man was ruined for me because of the English voice-acting cast that made it into Col. Mustang and Edward Alric, featuring the Golden Snitch. Again, that’s just me. I’m sure that if one didn’t despise the fangirlism surrounding Vic Mognana (/spelling) and MustangxEd and watched a sub, then I’m sure my experience wouldn’t be repeated.

Did you know that Vic Mignoga (that’s how you spell it) is actually a die-hard Christian? That’s part of the reason that he’s got so many fans. (So’s Johnny Yong Bosch of Trigun fame)

 

[Argh]

I do, actually, but since neither voice actor makes any attempt to change his voice whether he be Ichigo/Lelouch or Ed/exorcist Ed, I don’t care much for them. That their voices are just so so different from the original Japanese is a put-off too.

Also, I have it on solid authority that Vic Magnogna is a jerk when he’s away from the con scene and working.

 

[Ducard]

I have little reason to believe that. I know there are some groups of people who hate Mignogna because he doesn’t like Yaoi and such. Good for Vic in my opinion. In every instance I’ve seen of him, he extends courteous and open/friendly behavior. I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise concerning his work behavior, outside of otaku gossip maybe. In which case, he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway, his version of Bratja is lovely: youtube.com/watch?v=3IWCHbFg9DY

 

[Dancelittleewok]

I do, actually, but since neither voice actor makes any attempt to change his voice whether he be Ichigo/Lelouch or Ed/exorcist Ed, I don’t care much for them. That their voices are just so so different from the original Japanese is a put-off too.

Also, I have it on solid authority that Vic Magnogna is a jerk when he’s away from the con scene and working.

Actually, John Bosche has changed his voice–to that of an adolescent as Renton (Eureka 7) and Claus (Last Exile.)

A clip as Renton.

A clip as Claus.

 

[power_of_heart]

"tantumquantum:

Eden of the East, Baccano

I wanted a Selecao phone so much when I was watching the show. Not for its powers, but because it was just such a cool-looking phone!

King of Eden is out in Japan, btw. I don’t know when the second movie’s coming out, and I don’t know what happened in the first one because I wanted to wait to watch it, but at least the story’s coming along.

I’m just happy it got licensed, because that means the movies will probably come out on DVD over here (it’s almost impossible to find people to sub anime movies, so no luck there). I can’t just leave my experience of the series on Takizawa doing a Lelouch like he did

I am kind of my friends’ Baccanovangelist right now. It’s not the best animated thing ever, but I like the non-linear story-telling and Firo and Maiza as Firo’s big bro, and I loved the whole Flying Pussyfoot plot. Three groups of criminals on one train make for some awesome havoc, especially when it’s a group of religious terrorists, a gang of murderers killing the passengers for kicks, and then… well. Isaac and Miria.

I do, actually, but since neither voice actor makes any attempt to change his voice whether he be Ichigo/Lelouch or Ed/exorcist Ed, I don’t care much for them. That their voices are just so so different from the original Japanese is a put-off too.

Also, I have it on solid authority that Vic Magnogna is a jerk when he’s away from the con scene and working.

My friend told me he was a sweetheart when she met him last week, and she really doesn’t deal well with the evangelism (secular Jewish). Then again, she’s a huge Ouran fangirl. Vic Mignogna sounds the most “like Vic Mignogna” when he’s playing Junpei in the third Persona game: he didn’t really change his voice for it, but it worked really well for the character. I’ve always imagined him in real life as being just like Junpei (who is kind of immature even for a sixteen-year-old boy, but wants to be a hero so bad you can feel it).

And despite knowing I shouldn’t like him because he isn’t very good, I really do like Johnny Yong Bosch. I’m not sure how I feel about him as Ichigo because the only dub experience I have is the Wii fighting game, but he was obviously having so much fun playing Lelouch that I liked it better than the original, and while he still sounds “like Johnny Yong Bosch” in Gankutsuou, his voice makes Albert seem like a much different character - more “idiot shonen hero who tragically finds out he’s in a drama series”, less “naive uke” - than he was in the Japanese. Everything else I’ve heard him as - Rossiu, Adachi, Claus, Guy - I could take him or leave him, even though as Claus and Guy he does a much better acting job than he normally does.

 

[Argh]

I think everyone is misunderstanding me. I’ve been told by someone who works at Funimation that when he’s actually being a voice actor and not a anime con star, he’s rather pushy and rude.

I don’t know what the ^^ is saying when people don’t like him because he doesn’t like yaoi, a lot fangirls (not nearly as many fanboys) worship him for the Roy-in-a-mini-skirtx**Ed thing. And, of course, Ed can only be cosplayed well by females,so…yeah

JYB actually makes for a decent Lelouch, but as Ichigo he stinks, I think.

Whoever voiced the dub of Toppa Toppa Guren Laggan (/romanization ftl) was also actually quite pleasing. FLCL wasn’t bad either, and I’ve heard that the creator/writer thereof commented how he liked it, but I’m not sure if that’s true or not.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

You’d be surprised how “well-written porn” virtually don’t exist.
Not by my standards at least. (And no, they ain’t religious standards either. )

We’ve had this discussion before. It’s not me making the rules and it’s not me you have a problem with.

Take it up with God.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Everything else I’ve heard him as - Rossiu, Adachi, Claus, Guy - I could take him or leave him, even though as Claus and Guy he does a much better acting job than he normally does.

Wait by Guy you mean Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss)? Hmm, I guess now that I think about it, I’m surprised I didn’t recognize his voice. But yeah, you’re right I can definitely vouch that he was pretty good there compared to the others. It was pretty powerful in fact during Guy’s angry moments.

Overall though, I’m surprised the guy has had a lot more roles in anime/J-RPGs than I thought. One question though: Am I the only one who still remembers that other role he played? You know? The one that made him a hit with the kiddies during the nineties?

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

We’ve had this discussion before. It’s not me making the rules and it’s not me you have a problem with.

Take it up with God.

Yeah, a discussion you backed out of cuz you were too clingy and didn’t like getting your hands dirty. Look I got news for you, the real world isn’t clean. If you’re planning on making a career in it, don’t think living in a bubble is going to get you anywhere.

 

[exoflare]

:slapfight:

 

[power_of_heart]

:slapfight:

That’s why I backed out of it after my “ why are you fetishizing a girl’s trauma-induced submissiveness” comment. I realized two posts too late it wouldn’t go anywhere.

Also I don’t know you but I love that avatar. Kenpachi Zaraki is fantastic.
Lost Wanderer:

JYB-chat

Yes, that was Guy, and I didn’t even realize that he was Guy until I was listening to the Gankutsuou dub for the third time and didn’t have a face in front of me. It was like “wait he sounds familiar and not like Lelouch or Adachi, that sounds like… Guy Cecil… wait what”.

And most people know he was the Black Ranger, bro 8)

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

And most people know he was the Black Ranger, bro 8)

Whew, thank goodness.You see other than anime, I’m also a budding tokusatsu fan. I was afraid I was going to be alone on that one. >.>;;

 

[tantumquantum]

King of Eden

Horray for the movie!! I’ve been waiting for that one to come out since save from some notables (Cross Game, Bakemonogatari, Spice and Wolf II, Higashi no Eden, Darker than Black 2), the 2009 anime season was kind of meh … Maybe the winter schedule might save the year…

Speaking of Baccano, the winter schedule has Durarara. The closest thing to Baccano 2, since it’s from the same author of the Baccano light novel. So same author, same production company = something to look forward to in the winter schedule :clapping:

Anyway, if all else fails at least I still have my Gintama!!

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On a different note, any manga readers here?

Just wanted to say that Vagabond is the coolest thing since sliced bread!!!

 

[power_of_heart]

Horray for the movie!! I’ve been waiting for that one to come out since save from some notables (Cross Game, Bakemonogatari, Spice and Wolf II, Higashi no Eden, Darker than Black 2), the 2009 anime season was kind of meh … Maybe the winter schedule might save the year…

Speaking of Baccano, the winter schedule has Durarara. The closest thing to Baccano 2, since it’s from the same author of the Baccano light novel. So same author, same production company = something to look forward to in the winter schedule :clapping:

Anyway, if all else fails at least I still have my Gintama!!

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On a different note, any manga readers here?

Just wanted to say that Vagabond is the coolest thing since sliced bread!!!

I looked at this season’s schedule and the only shows I wanted to even give the three episode test to were Durarara and that show whose name I can’t remember about the army gals protecting their country with the power of rock.

You’re right about 2009 having been a terrible year. I only was able to finish two shows (the one of which was Eden)* and got 2/3rds of the way through two others before getting bored. I’ve been very excitedly following the FMA remake, but I already read the manga so I don’t count that, and I only started watching Umineko because of my friends and if they lost interest I probably would too (it’s a terrible show if you’re not interested in/familiar with the source material or talking with other fans about it).

I wouldn’t know about Vagabond, the only serious action manga I’ve ever followed is Vinland Saga. I have heard that it is amazing, but Takehiko Inoue is a really good writer so what else would I expect XDDDDD

*I’m embarrassed to admit the other one was Sengoku Basara. Totally quality programming, but I was watching it for Yukimura and his amazing facial expressions and his adorable relationship with Takeda.

 

[CesarAugustus]

Someone here is watching the Hellsing Ultimate OVAs?

The Crusader Knights are fantastic!!!

http://img.youtube.com/vi/RN5JdYe_1_U/0.jpg

God Bless You !!!

 

[Eagelswings]

Just why the heck are you guys talking about pornography? I honestly hope no one here is looking at that garbage.

 

[exoflare]

Just why the heck are you guys talking about pornography? I honestly hope no one here is looking at that garbage.

Wow, one guy here admits to looking at hentai and so now you come in and get onto us just for pointing it out. Real class act.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Wow, one guy here admits to looking at hentai and so now you come in and get onto us just for pointing it out. Real class act.

Frankly, I’m a little saddened that some people aren’t comfortable with talking about hentai. It’s like when parents make the mistake of choosing to never talk about porn with their kids when the time comes. How are we going to tackle a problem like that when we keep burying it down and acting like it doesn’t exist? :ehh: