The Ark of the Covenant in the New Testament

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pablope said:
Likewise, the question posted in 481 and 500:

Okay…question then…who gets to decide what supports and contradicts the Bible?

How is one to know what contradicts and supports Scripture? You, the individual, someone else? the Church?

It should be an easy question for you to answer, right 1voice?
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I believe 1voice simply cannot admit such a belief or notion does not exist anywhere in the Bible. Refusal to admit it is a sign of pride.
 
1voice said:
“for you have exalted your Word above all your name”
Psalm 138:2
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Huh?

This is not even remotely close to what you have claimed.

God’s Word is Jesus Christ, whose word is revealed through Scripture and Tradition.

If anything, this supports the Catholic position that God’s Word is the source of all!
 
PRmerger said:
No, 1voice. Our logic is that we believe the Word of God in its ENTIRETY, which has been revealed through 2 channels: Scripture and Tradition.

YOUR paradigm is that God’s Word is only revealed through the Scriptures.
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You misunderstand my position.
I accept tradition as long as it lines up with the truth already revealed in the Bible.

You can take this as my response to #250 as well. …🙂
 
1voice said:
Originally Posted by 1voice
Your logic is exactly the same logic that Mormons stand on when they justify the claims made in the Book of Mormon.

If you use that logic… you must allow others to use the same logic.
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Another side-step. Catholics are not Mormons and I have not seen one post supporting the Mormons or the Book of Mormon in this thread. Again - you have introduced a straw man. You are misrepresenting our position and then attacking it. Illogical. A fallacy.

Please answer the question:

Where are the Bible verses that support your position?
 
PRmerger said:
Huh?

This is not even remotely close to what you have claimed.

God’s Word is Jesus Christ,…!
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And Jesus Christ said:

"This, then, is how you should pray: “'Our Father in heaven” …
Matt 6:9

“ask in my name”
John 13:14

“Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.”
John 16:24

“pray to the Lord”
Matt 9:38
 
1voice said:
You misunderstand my position.
I accept tradition as long as it lines up with the truth already revealed in the Bible.

You can take this as my response to #250 as well. …🙂
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Okay…then show us the tradition: Everything must be said or taught from the Bible.

Evidently it lines up with the Bible-right? You follow it,practice it, believe it, thus it must be Biblical.

So kindly show us where Scripture teaches such a belief?
 
PRmerger said:
Huh?

This is not even remotely close to what you have claimed.

God’s Word is Jesus Christ, whose word is revealed through Scripture and Tradition.

If anything, this supports the Catholic position that God’s Word is the source of all!
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More important, that verse in no shape or form is claiming the written Word only. Strike one!
 
1voice said:
And Jesus Christ said:

“ask in my name”
John 13:14
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“If then I being your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; you also ought to wash one another’s feet.”

[John 13:14, Douay-Rheims]

Where does this passage say anything about “ask in my name?” :confused:
 
I’m addressing this post to 1voice in the hopes that he/she will see it.

1voice, when you pray, do you pray only by yourself - in your own room?

Or do you pray during church services?

Do you pray by yourself with the door shut behind you?

Do you pray out loud?

You didn’t answer these questions. I realize you are being bombarded with posts and I suspect that is why you haven’t answered them. But I also don’t think you will answer them so I will simply submit that these practices are specifically disallowed according to the Bible.

If you do any of these things you are not following the Bible. If anyone in your church prays out loud, that person is doing something that is forbidden by the Bible. If you pray as a group in your church on Sunday you are doing something that is forbidden by the Bible.

Or are these practices *really *forbidden? Context is very important and I have seen so much cherry-picking going on in this thread (and in most of the threads in this forum) that I don’t think there are any cherries left. And that *is *a shame as cherry season is approaching quickly and I have a special fondness for Rainier cherries and love it when they go on sale (see, PR? I love goodies, especially Rainier cherries because I’m diabetic (thanks Mom! :() and shouldn’t be eating chocolate-covered macadamia nuts, although I’ve been encouraged to eat the macadamia nuts sans chocolate.)
 
Hey! This thread now is rated five stars!!

I wonder how that happened!

😉

😃
 
1voice said:
You misunderstand my position.
I accept tradition as long as it lines up with the truth already revealed in the Bible.
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But Tradition came first, 1voice. That’s what gave you the Bible.

You would not know that Hebrews is inspired, except for the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church.

So really your position ought to be: I accept Scripture as long as it doesn’t contradict Tradition. And that’s how I know that Hebrews is inspired.
 
1voice said:
If you choose to be arrogant I will ignore you.
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Arrogant? You are the one who refuses to provide the scriptural verses supporting your tradition:

Everything must be said or taught in the Bible.

But I am arrogant? I should be ignoring you.
 
LittleSoldier said:
I’m addressing this post to 1voice in the hopes that he/she will see it.

1voice, when you pray, do you pray only by yourself - in your own room?

Or do you pray during church services?

Do you pray by yourself with the door shut behind you?

Do you pray out loud?
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Yes … is the answer to all of the above.
LittleSoldier said:
You didn’t answer these questions. I realize you are being bombarded with posts and I suspect that is why you haven’t answered them.
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In “Biblical” proportions!
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1voice said:
Yes … is the answer to all of the above.
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Then you are doing things which the Bible prohibits. Are you aware of that? So how DARE you accuse Catholics of doing that?

Please answer the question that I and others have asked over and over and over:

Where are the Bible verses that support your position?
 
LittleSoldier said:
Then you are doing things which the Bible prohibits. Are you aware of that? So how DARE you accuse Catholics of doing that?

Please answer the question that I and others have asked over and over and over:

Where are the Bible verses that support your position?
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Well it is evident we will never get to read any verses supporting 1voice position.
 
PRmerger said:
But Tradition came first, 1voice. **That’s what gave you the Bible. **

You would not know that Hebrews is inspired, except for the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church.

So really your position ought to be: I accept Scripture as long as it doesn’t contradict Tradition. And that’s how I know that Hebrews is inspired.
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All three of these statements are false, and the source of your error is revealed in the words in bold.
 
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