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JimG
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So what’s going to becme of the product now? Will Aunt Jemima pancake mix become Col. Sanders pancake mix?
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Cruciferi
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I would be surprised if Colonel Sanders comes through this unscathed…
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Nepperhan
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Maybe we can let minorities choose those logos, huh? Crowd scenes would be fine.
You ignore the paternalism in using minority images as advertisements or for sports teams. Once again you pick and choose and quibble around the edges.
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Nepperhan
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Yes, black people use the term all the time. More often I think they say: “N word”. The NAACP buried the term more than 10 years ago.
Plus the ‘country preacher’ never used that term as to Obama. Is that wishful thinking on your part?
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Nepperhan
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His image was cleaned up about 20 years ago.
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Cruciferi
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We’ll see… Give it a few weeks…
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Ridgerunner
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Yes. The “N” word. I don’t know what other word you’re talking about. “Colored” perhaps?
Jackson used the “N” word on Obama.
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All southerners are used to a lifetime of it, and it’s considered a “Yankee defect”. It’s like that line of Brother Dave Gardner’s “Down in Hot Springs I saw those “stupid, ignorant southerners” selling WATER to those “brilliant Yankees”…and the government owns it!”
I can pretty much roll with it. I happen to have been raised in a part of the country, on the far fringes of the American South, whose residents have been stereotypically portrayed as ignorant, uneducated, rustic, and sometimes even prone to antisocial behavior. Growing up, in all honesty, I did find some media portrayals to be embarrassing — the country-music variety show Hee Haw, the cartoon characters Snuffy Smith, the Hillbilly Bears, and to some extent Li’l Abner. The Beverly Hillbillies was just downright funny, with strong characters who actually came out in the end as being more sensible and level-headed than the “city folk”. Daisy Moses, incorrectly referred to as “Granny Clampett” (she wasn’t a Clampett, and she wasn’t obviously any cast member’s grandmother), was hysterical — reminded me of my own grandmother, small, feisty, flinty, and very, very funny.Ridgerunner:
Which is not an answer to the question. Does a regional slur offend you?
But it’s easy for me to sit back and say. The worst thing that has ever happened to me, was when I moved to the Eastern Seaboard and my origins became known (I neither made any effort to hide them, nor did I apologize for them, quite the contrary), some people were a little irritated, or baffled, or whatever, that I had multiple college degrees, spoke the King’s English albeit with a muted version of my native accent, and ended up qualifying for Mensa once I submitted an application. That’s on them. You can’t let other people make you feel bad about yourself, unless you give them that permission.
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Donkey
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L.C. Leprechaun might start offending some Irish.
Chef Boyardardee the Italians.
I’m sure the Italian American Club in Columbus, Ohio aren’t happy today.
Many people have gone mad.
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Nepperhan
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No, they literally state “N word”. And no, Rev. Jackson did not use that term as to Obama. Please check and you will see that you are in error.
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Lea101
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I forgive you
The evidence showed proof of black people and NAACP being upset at the branding for a period of time, to the point where the brand actually tweaked the image over time (which proves that the discomfort was loud enough for them to actually change it)…in order to counter your point that it was mostly white people who were fussing over it. This whole issue blew up specifically because a black woman brought it up recently on social media as well. You want to complain about how the evidence proved nothing? Maybe back up your original claim that most people who are upset are white people.
The whole “virtue signalling” comeback is beginning to reek of one’s own discomfort at other people looking more virtuous than that person, rather than a legitimate call-out for people adopting social causes for their ego at this point. Especially since I’m sure most people here who are angry at the decision have no clue about AJ before spouting off.
I stand by my statement about American politics. I see many who are against it simply because its mostly liberals demanding for these changes. It’s just childish at this rate.
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Nepperhan
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Check it out!
Folks have been mad for a long time.
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Lea101
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I think people are simply asking to not use stereotypes of black people as branding there, bud. If AJ wasn’t based from a harmful stereotype/blackface caricatures, nobody will really care.
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Ridgerunner
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I heard him myself. I’m not in error.
One persons statement, without foundation, is nothing.
Have you had a look at the protest crowds? Nearly all white people.
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TK421
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It’s one of the greatest threats facing our society. People running to their respective battlestations without knowing anything about the issue or even necessarily caring about the issue. I don’t know how long the political system can survive that.
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Lea101
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We’re talking about this particular issue, aren’t we? I wasn’t aware we suddenly moved onto BLM protests to be quite honest. My whole point was that the black community has been talking about this for a long time, and it blew up because of the current climate. The idea that AJs branding was racially insensitive isn’t new, or invented by white people if that clears things up.
I’m not surprised that majority of something would always be white, really. I mean they’re the majority race, unless we’re talking about proportion (because then otherwise the statement would be pretty meaningless).
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Ridgerunner
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Aunt Jemima is not a “racial stereotype” any more than Mrs. Tucker, Mrs. Butterworth, Chef Boyardee. You could rightly say she, like the others, is a “stereotyping” of a pleasant-appearing, and rather handsome, woman of an age and heft that indicates she probably knows how to cook. That’s the image, not some racial caricature.
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Lea101
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Seems like they’ll make it survive. Republicans don’t even seem that incentivised to ban abortion anyway. I’ve heard a couple of politicians talk about how they refuse to back something they believe in just because the other party believes in it too, and I think it’s pretty much the same thing for our culture too. Ben Shapiro got some pushback because he supports Juneteeth being a holiday. Nobody wants to work with each other anymore…hyperbole I’m sure, lol
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Ridgerunner
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I would agree that the black community has been talking about police treatment of blacks for a long time. But I doubt Aunt Jemima has, and you have certainly not proved that.
Just as convincing as “most black people”. anecdotal at the very most.
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Lea101
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I would then advise you to read up about the Mammy stereotype, as well as how Aunt Jemima was even created in the first place, then. I believe you’re looking at it on the surface level which isn’t unusual, but there are plenty of material from black individuals that explain why the mammy stereotype is racially insensitive.
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