The Benedictine School

  • Thread starter Thread starter OraLabora
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
He also wrote great guides on contemplative prayer.
That’s kind of what I was looking for in his writings and as long as nothing else has crept in there, it is fine with me.
That’s a second type of writing. He wrote on social situations and tried to apply the Church’s social teachings to these situations. These are not his best works. They’re very confusing. I believe that they are confusing because they’re coming from the mind of a contemplative who is looking at social issues vertically, from the top down. Those of us who do not have the gift or the vocation to the contemplative life, can’t see the world from that perspective.
Sounds like I will just stay away from those.
His final form of writing was comparative spirituality.
Comparative spirituality does exactly what it says. It studies multiple forms of spirituality: Shinto, Buddhist, Hinduism, Islam, Jewish, Christian and other. It looks for common elements and the differences. This area of spirituality has helped shape the Church’s teaching on ecumenism. That’s why the radical traditionalist hates Merton, as if Merton were the only one to write on this. He was the most scholarly writer, but not the only writer on this.
What we have found through this area of theology is that God constantly tries to make himself felt among all men. That non-Catholics have not been abandoned. The evidence is in the fact that we find elements of our spirituality in other faiths and philosophies. Merton points to them.
Another important contribution of this branch of theology is that it has helped us discover methods of prayer that are useful to the Christian, especially the contemplative monk or nun. A method is not a doctrine. It’s a way of doing something, not a doctrinal statement about what you’re doing. For example, when Christian monks sit on the floor resting their bum on their ankles, that’s a eastern posture. But what they have found is that it is very natural, more so than sitting on a hard wooden bench in a choir. You can actually sit that way for a longer period of time without getting tired.
Finally, Comparative Spirituality points to differences in our spirituality. These differences are very important in order to open a dialogue with people of other faiths. One of the reasons that Christianity never took off in the Far East as it did in Europe is that the Asian cultures were very advanced civilizations. The Christians could not suppress them as they did to the Europeans and the European colonies. But they could not dialogue with them either, because they did not understand their worldview, much less their spirituality and all of its symbols and gestures. Today, we’re making more progress. One man who tried very hard to Christianize Buddhism rather than obliterate it was St. Maximilian Kolbe when he was the superior in Japan. He had learned this from a letter written by St. Francis Xavier who admitted that if he could only understand, he could make converts.
I know many Benedictines have been involved in ecumenical efforts, which I have no problem with. My only concern is that other things do not start creeping in which shouldn’t be. I don’t wish to put my spiritual life in a precarious position, particularly unknowingly.
There was a group of Augustinians that no longer exists that lived according the Benedictine tradition. It was the first group that St. Augustine founded. They did not die out. They evolved into the Canons Regular of St. Augustine and a splinter group evolved into the Augustinian Friars, which are mendicant.
Given the age of the work, my guess is that Kempis may have belonged to this group of Augustinian monks. These monks were Augustinian, because they were founded by Augustine, but they followed the Benedictine way of life. This would make sense, because when Augustine finally writes his rule, it reads like a photocopy of Benedict’s rule. However, Augustine replaces Benedict’s vows with the Evangelical Counsels. But this is long after he had founded his monastic community.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, FFV 🙂
Thanks, I’ll probably check that book out.

Peace,
 
Interestingly, a Benedictine Monk in England has a blog doing the exact thing which I want to do with the Facebook page that I started. His blog, Monks and Mermaids is… written by a monk and is about monasteries and the spiritual life, both Catholic and Orthodox. I sent an inquiry to his Monastery in England in the hopes that he might consider joining my little page and sharing some of his insights.
HEY! It’s Br David! You are very lucky if you get him, he is a lovely man and was the Brother who gave me my instruction on the basics of the Rule to follow in secular life.

I never knew he had a blog though…
 
This is a magnificent look at Orthodox Monasticism right here in the US. Its not Benedictine, though there are Benedictine Orthodox Monks, but it is very much worth watching if you are at all interested in Monastic Spirituality. Even in my short time looking into the Benedictine School, I see much that is familiar and striking. Those who have much greater experience than I, will likely spot that much more.

youtube.com/watch?v=ooZiPrSm8sI

I enjoy hearing the thoughts of contemplatives on how what they do influences the outside world. One of the priests I knew when I first came into the Church is fond of saying that he really believes that when we are in Heaven and God’s plan is revealed, it will be made known how the constant prayers of the contemplatives have helped to shape the world and to bring about God’s kingdom. Interesting perspective I think…

Peace,
 
HEY! It’s Br David! You are very lucky if you get him, he is a lovely man and was the Brother who gave me my instruction on the basics of the Rule to follow in secular life.

I never knew he had a blog though…
Very cool. What a small world sometimes…

Peace,
 
That’s kind of what I was looking for in his writings and as long as nothing else has crept in there, it is fine with me. Sounds like I will just stay away from those. I know many Benedictines have been involved in ecumenical efforts, which I have no problem with. My only concern is that other things do not start creeping in which shouldn’t be. I don’t wish to put my spiritual life in a precarious position, particularly unknowingly.
Trust me, if you are intelligent, you should be able to understand the the activity of Comparative Theology. There is nothing in that branch of theology that is a danger to the soul. That’s what we’ve been trying to explain to people, but they jump to make assumptions that there is something dangerous there, without opening a single one of these works, be it by Merton, by John Paul II or any other theologian. John Paul II wrote beautiful and very helpful comparative theology in Crossing the Threshold of Hope. It has not led any souls astray. At worse, Comparative Theology, bores the person who has never had extensive training in World Geography and anthropology. The writer assumes that you had a good high school education and he does not pause to explain what this or that means or where it came from. He proceeds to the next level, the spiritual level.

A wonderful example that I use is the use of sculpture in Catholicism. It was obviously a pagan form of art. But it was a beautiful form of art, foreign to the Jews. As the Gentiles convert, they Christianize it rather than suppress it. The Christmas tree. There are several stories of how it came to be a Christian element for Christmas. The one point that is common to all of the stories is that it was a practice of pagan origins that was Christianized. Like this, we have many things that have been Christianized. This is what Comparative Theology does. It discovers what can be useful to Christians, what is common to both the Christian and the non-Christian, and what is so different, that we need to have it explained to us if we’re ever going to make the Gospel understood to the non-Christian, because we need to speak his language.

I’ll give you the advice that St. Maximilian Kolbe gave to the Catholics in Japan. There is nothing to fear in paganism, because most of it is myth. Myths can do no harm to the man who recognizes a myth. There is a great deal of Christianity to be found in paganism, beginning with moral values and the desire to do good and avoid evil, and there is great advantage to understanding what is different, because it opens up the door to understanding the mind and heart of another. With this belief in mind, the Franciscans thrived in Asia. The number of Asian Franciscans is greater than that of American Franciscans, given the number of Asian Catholics. In other words, the percentage is higher.

I have read Merton’s works and those of others who do Comparative Theology and am still a Catholic. Some of it is quite interesting. A lot depends on the writer too. Some writers are boring. They can make Batman and Robin sound like the weather report.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV 🙂
 
Trust me, if you are intelligent, you should be able to understand the the activity of Comparative Theology. There is nothing in that branch of theology that is a danger to the soul. That’s what we’ve been trying to explain to people, but they jump to make assumptions that there is something dangerous there, without opening a single one of these works, be it by Merton, by John Paul II or any other theologian. John Paul II wrote beautiful and very helpful comparative theology in Crossing the Threshold of Hope. It has not led any souls astray. At worse, Comparative Theology, bores the person who has never had extensive training in World Geography and anthropology. The writer assumes that you had a good high school education and he does not pause to explain what this or that means or where it came from. He proceeds to the next level, the spiritual level.

A wonderful example that I use is the use of sculpture in Catholicism. It was obviously a pagan form of art. But it was a beautiful form of art, foreign to the Jews. As the Gentiles convert, they Christianize it rather than suppress it. The Christmas tree. There are several stories of how it came to be a Christian element for Christmas. The one point that is common to all of the stories is that it was a practice of pagan origins that was Christianized. Like this, we have many things that have been Christianized. This is what Comparative Theology does. It discovers what can be useful to Christians, what is common to both the Christian and the non-Christian, and what is so different, that we need to have it explained to us if we’re ever going to make the Gospel understood to the non-Christian, because we need to speak his language.

I’ll give you the advice that St. Maximilian Kolbe gave to the Catholics in Japan. There is nothing to fear in paganism, because most of it is myth. Myths can do no harm to the man who recognizes a myth. There is a great deal of Christianity to be found in paganism, beginning with moral values and the desire to do good and avoid evil, and there is great advantage to understanding what is different, because it opens up the door to understanding the mind and heart of another. With this belief in mind, the Franciscans thrived in Asia. The number of Asian Franciscans is greater than that of American Franciscans, given the number of Asian Catholics. In other words, the percentage is higher.

I have read Merton’s works and those of others who do Comparative Theology and am still a Catholic. Some of it is quite interesting. A lot depends on the writer too. Some writers are boring. They can make Batman and Robin sound like the weather report.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV 🙂
Thanks Brother!

Peace,
 
Several article commentaries entitled St. Benedict for Beginners. The author, Fr. Dwight, is a priest-oblate of the Order.

Peace,

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/03/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-listen-my-son/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/03/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-follow-this-little-rule/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/03/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-welcomed-as-christ/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/03/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-the-way-of-obedience/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/03/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-in-a-flood-of-words/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/04/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-what-will-profit-us-forever/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/04/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-first-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/05/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-secon-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/05/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-third-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/06/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-fourth-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/06/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-fifth-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/06/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-sixt-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/07/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-seventh-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/07/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-eighth-step-to-humility/

integratedcatholiclife.org/2012/08/fr-longenecker-st-benedict-for-beginners-ninth-step-to-humility/
 
Anyone who may be interested in Benedictine Spirituality could consider purchasing and reading this commentary on the Rule of St. Benedict. It is extremely well done and represents something of a narrative review of other well-regarded commentaries presented for Oblates. Each chapter of the Rule is broken up for daily reading and includes extensive commentary along with a section on application of the principles of that part of the Rule to one’s life. It is well research and properly cited throughout so that the reader can see which previous commentaries the current scholars are drawing from in developing their interpretation of the available literature. The commentary does include aspects of historical-critical methodology as well analysis of language and translation, but primarily focuses on the doctrinal and spiritual aspects of living the Rule outside of the cloister.

amazon.com/Commentary-Benedictine-Oblates-Rule-Benedict/dp/1606082663/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I strongly recommend it.

What are others’ favorite commentaries on the Holy Rule? I look forward to your thoughts.

Peace of Christ,

Jason
 
Anyone who may be interested in Benedictine Spirituality could consider purchasing and reading this commentary on the Rule of St. Benedict. It is extremely well done and represents something of a narrative review of other well-regarded commentaries presented for Oblates. Each chapter of the Rule is broken up for daily reading and includes extensive commentary along with a section on application of the principles of that part of the Rule to one’s life. It is well research and properly cited throughout so that the reader can see which previous commentaries the current scholars are drawing from in developing their interpretation of the available literature. The commentary does include aspects of historical-critical methodology as well analysis of language and translation, but primarily focuses on the doctrinal and spiritual aspects of living the Rule outside of the cloister.

amazon.com/Commentary-Benedictine-Oblates-Rule-Benedict/dp/1606082663/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I strongly recommend it.

What are others’ favorite commentaries on the Holy Rule? I look forward to your thoughts.

Peace of Christ,

Jason
This mine. If anyone is reasonably proficient in French, I highly recommend it. Our Oblate Director recommends it as well:

Sur un chemin de liberté
 
This mine. If anyone is reasonably proficient in French, I highly recommend it. Our Oblate Director recommends it as well:

Sur un chemin de liberté
Unfortunately, I barely speak English… 😉 Too bad that one has not been translated.

Do you have any others you recommend?

These are the others on my list. I have a few of them but haven’t am still working my way through the one I linked earlier.

Conversations with Saint Benedict
Terrence Kardong, OSB

The Rule of Saint Benedict: Initiation Into the Monastic Tradition
Thomas Merton, OSCO

The Rule of Saint Benedict: A Doctrinal and Spiritual Commentary
Adalbert De Vogue, OSB

Introducing Benedict’s Rule: A Program of Formation
Michael Casey, OCSO and David Tomlins, OCSO

Benedict’s Rule - A Translation and Commentary
Terrence Kardong, OSB

Commentary on the Rule of St. Benedict
Dom Paul Delatte, OSB

Those will take me a very long time to get through. Unfortunately, they are not all broken down for daily reading like the one I linked above, but I can probably find a way to make my own schedule for each of them.
 
Which of these commentaries helps you best to LIVE the Rule in your daily life? And how or why does it do that?
 
Which of these commentaries helps you best to LIVE the Rule in your daily life? And how or why does it do that?
At present, I am working my way through the Simon commentary that I linked earlier. I have high hopes for some of the others, but can’t give a first hand account at this time.

Peace,
 
Might I add one more reference to a blog that I have been following for a year or two. It is run by Bro. Jerome Leo OSB of St Mary’s Monastery in Petersham MA, and provides a running commentary on the rule of St. Benedict. Bro. Jerome has a marvelous, and colorful, background into which he reaches for lessons on life, making the rule so contemporary and up to date. He sends out his daily ruminations by email and I look forward to each one.
Although I am Orthodox, I have found the Rule of St. Benedict as the connection between Rome and Constaninople, because of Benedict’s sense of balance, plus his links to St. Pachomius and St.John Cassian. It’s my hope that the reunification of East and West will happen thru the prayers and work of monastics.
Here is how to connect, (taken from the last lines of his blog page:)
Link: <stmarysmonastery.org
To subscribe to this group, send a blank email to: holyrule-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
To reach Bro. Jerome: jeromeleo@stmarysmonastery.org
 
Might I add one more reference to a blog that I have been following for a year or two. It is run by Bro. Jerome Leo OSB of St Mary’s Monastery in Petersham MA, and provides a running commentary on the rule of St. Benedict. Bro. Jerome has a marvelous, and colorful, background into which he reaches for lessons on life, making the rule so contemporary and up to date. He sends out his daily ruminations by email and I look forward to each one.
Although I am Orthodox, I have found the Rule of St. Benedict as the connection between Rome and Constaninople, because of Benedict’s sense of balance, plus his links to St. Pachomius and St.John Cassian. It’s my hope that the reunification of East and West will happen thru the prayers and work of monastics.
Here is how to connect, (taken from the last lines of his blog page:)
Link: <stmarysmonastery.org
To subscribe to this group, send a blank email to: holyrule-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
To reach Bro. Jerome: jeromeleo@stmarysmonastery.org
Agreed, his comments on the Rule are very good.

Peace,
 
Which of these commentaries helps you best to LIVE the Rule in your daily life? And how or why does it do that?
Well the one I listed is my daily reading of the Rule.

I like its depth, and how he relates the Rule to the modern world. But I especially like how it focuses on getting out of yourself, i.e. “it’s not all about me”, and practical relational issues for example on how when we often take sides with someone, we think we are doing it to be charitable with the “victim” but often our motives are selfish.

It doesn’t so much get into the mechanics of oblate life (i.e. how to do the Divine Office on a busy schedule), it focuses more on how to live in community, that is in relation with those around us.
 
Well the one I listed is my daily reading of the Rule.
Ah, if only I read French. 🙂
It doesn’t so much get into the mechanics of oblate life (i.e. how to do the Divine Office on a busy schedule), it focuses more on how to live in community, that is in relation with those around us.
I like Br. Jerome Leo’s commentary as mentioned above. It also seems practical. He has a way of saying “this is about abbots, but applies even if you’re not an abbot…”
 
Ah, if only I read French. 🙂

I like Br. Jerome Leo’s commentary as mentioned above. It also seems practical. He has a way of saying “this is about abbots, but applies even if you’re not an abbot…”
That’s one of the reasons I like the one by Simon so much that I linked above. It is very scholarly in that they cite and discuss many of the well regarded commentaries which came before it, in particular the highly received one by Dom Paul Delatte OSB, but there is always an application section for each part of the Rule which brings things into focus for Oblates or in my case, aspiring ones.
 
I like Br. Jerome Leo’s commentary as mentioned above. It also seems practical. He has a way of saying “this is about abbots, but applies even if you’re not an abbot…”
I used to think that as the father in our family, my role was akin to the abbot’s.

Mother abbess quickly set me straight on that 😛
 
I used to think that as the father in our family, my role was akin to the abbot’s.

Mother abbess quickly set me straight on that 😛
Funny. My frequently tells me that I am the boss. She’s Brazilian so I have decided that the word “boss” either means something entirely different in Portuguese, or it is an honorary title. 😉
 
Funny. My frequently tells me that I am the boss. She’s Brazilian so I have decided that the word “boss” either means something entirely different in Portuguese, or it is an honorary title. 😉
It’s like government in the British parliamentary system: there’s the “head of state” (the Queen), and there’s the executive branch (led by the Prime Minister). The former is entirely symbolic 😉
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top