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I’m glad some one around here has a sense of humor!You can’t vote in the poll because it is rigged! Or you don’t have authority, Or you already did vote, Or you were going to vote “No”, Or you voted for Oshamea!
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Bruno_Schulz
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**Hi, old man, - you forgot me! Drop me a line and find out
Krippenfiguren at t-online.de at=@
And besides: - I often wrote in many forums, that Jesus (who is God) surely was a man who had a lot of humour. Else he wouldn’t have been able to stand us
(well, once He said: How much longer do I have to stand you?! -
because we peeved Him once more.)
There’s hardly anything worse than humourless people. People who lack humour, are boring and at least I wouldn’t mix up with them.
And besides:
It’s the Christians only, who do have a lot of reason for joy and happyness - and humour! For they know Jesus has prepared a wonderful place for us in the kingdom of God:
John 14:2 In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you.**
Krippenfiguren at t-online.de at=@
And besides: - I often wrote in many forums, that Jesus (who is God) surely was a man who had a lot of humour. Else he wouldn’t have been able to stand us
(well, once He said: How much longer do I have to stand you?! -
because we peeved Him once more.)
There’s hardly anything worse than humourless people. People who lack humour, are boring and at least I wouldn’t mix up with them.
And besides:
It’s the Christians only, who do have a lot of reason for joy and happyness - and humour! For they know Jesus has prepared a wonderful place for us in the kingdom of God:
John 14:2 In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you.**
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Symux
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The Bible belongs to whoever reads, follows, and obeys its teachings.
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RobGentner
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**Hi Symux, :tiphat: **
**Hey, thanks for that information!
****I am so glad that someone has finally been appointed to make those decisions! Errrr, You were appointed by the Catholic Church, the real owners of the Bible, to make that statement weren’t you? Or, is it just your opinion? 
****Actually the scriptures “belong to the church” you can have the books, we have 7 more you forgot to “borrow”. What is important is the correct interpretation of what those words mean . Only the Catholic church has that, and the God given authority to preach from the bible. **
The CC has not one change in over 2,000 years. Where the 33,000 counterfeit denominations and their 28,000 subdenominations cave done so many it would make you wonder how much of the real message is still contained in it? There are now over 100 versions of the Bible. The KJV its self has changed over 300 verses from the “official” bible assembled by the “real” church and eliminated some of God’s word as being false. :bigyikes: How God like is that? To take it upon yourself to just disobey the church that Jesus Himself gave authority on earth just because you don’t agree with what they teach.
Foolish condemned souls! I pray for all of your souls: May Jesus, our savior, grab your soul from Satan and lead you into the real church that He established 2,000 years ago. May He destroy your belief in the lies that you have been taught and full your heart with His true teachings as understood by His real church. I ask this in His holy name. Amen.**Yea, Jesus sure must be happy with the cancerous growth that has developed on His “Body” in the past 500 years!:nope: **The disrespect His mother is shown must fill His heart with Love for you people who deny Her SinlessnesSymux,s.
**Anyway Symux, I have posted your remarks on the List of “People’s Who’s Opinion Dosen’t Matter”. If we receive approval from Rome on your opinions. Be assured we will make necessary changes. Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut. It is appreciated!
****God Bless
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RobGentner
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"Humor is in fact an essential element in the mirth of "“creation. We can see how, in many matters in our lives, God wants to prod us into taking things a bit more lightly.” Pope Benedict XVI
**“God had a sense of Humor, after all he made us!”
********“It is very hard to hate a man when you are laughing together”
********If you don’t have a sense of humor, chances are you have any sense at all!"
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Symux
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Those who follow the truth of the Bible are taught to interpret it from the Holy Spirit. In so doing, those with true belief are filled with God’s spirit, and begin to act more like Jesus Christ.**Hi Symux, :tiphat: **
**Hey, thanks for that information!
**God Bless
It should be the goal of all Christians to become more like our Savior. If anyone could ever attain that ideal, we would never have needed his sacrifice.
It is our job to continually work towards this goal, and to help our brethren when they need encouragement.
The official books of the Bible were selected to be placed into the Bible at the Council of Trent. The Roman Catholic Church did put the modern day Bible. I will not deny that, but it is the word of God meant to be shared with everyone. It is a fallacy for anyone to deny the word of God to anyone, or to declare it belongs only to one organization.
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Sailka
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No, the Threads got me. You found your name? I’ve been looking for it too.
npatrol: We can get our 3 cents in, or 2 cents on a bad day. :twocents: :tanning:
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Sailka
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Big correction! The correct books of the Bible were selected 1100 years earlier, at the Councils of Carthage (397 AD), Nicea, and Rome. There were just too many unreal epistles, Gospels around, like the Gospel of Judas, which was declared phony by St Ireneus (sic) about AD 120.
Exactly. The Bible was given by God for every single peeps, even Rob Gentner and even a New Age ‘priest’ friend.
And every human being born has been a sinner. The Pope goes to confession (John 20:23) to a Priest, for forgiveness by Our Lord, the Only One who can Forgive.
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RobGentner
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**Hi Symux, I better explain myself to you it might help a little. **I am a member of what is called Power Catholics. Ever hear of it? There are no dues, only one rule. It is our motto actually:
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POWER CATHOLIC MOTTO:
Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says… ‘Oh hell…he’s awake!!’ [/SIGN]
As one of our unofficial leaders and heros says:
“All that evil requires to prosper is that good men remain silent.” The hour is late. We have had years to change course. Instead, we have obstinately refused and gone from bad to worse. May God have mercy on us, and grant us the courage and strength to act in accordance with that truth." -Fr. John Corapi
Now I will answer your e-mail!
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POWER CATHOLIC MOTTO:
Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says… ‘Oh hell…he’s awake!!’ [/SIGN]
As one of our unofficial leaders and heros says:
“All that evil requires to prosper is that good men remain silent.” The hour is late. We have had years to change course. Instead, we have obstinately refused and gone from bad to worse. May God have mercy on us, and grant us the courage and strength to act in accordance with that truth." -Fr. John Corapi
Now I will answer your e-mail!
Those who follow the truth of the Bible are taught to interpret it from the Holy Spirit. In so doing, those with true belief are filled with God’s spirit, and begin to act more like Jesus Christ.
**You can’t know the TRUTH if you don’t follow the catholic church’s teaching. Yes, we are taught that the Holy Spirit guides our church. Satan leads his followers to final damnation! **
It should be the goal of all Christians to become more like our Savior. If anyone could ever attain that ideal, we would never have needed his sacrifice.
Yes, they should embrace His real church and stop following distorted, twisted, deceitful, greedy denominations. Because of original Sin we did need his sacrafice it proved the ability for the entire Human race to be saved. Onlt failure to accept His sacrafice by not loving Him, His Mother, and His church can cause a good decent person to be danmed to the fires of Hell.
It is our job to continually work towards this goal, and to help our brethren when they need encouragement.
**Yes, Exactly what I am attempting to do. Thanks for recognizing that!
he official books of the Bible were selected to be placed into the Bible at the Council of Trent. The Roman Catholic Church did put the modern day Bible. I will not deny that, but it is the word of God meant to be shared with everyone.
**Yup, they were books written to be used in services by the Catholic church to share Jesus words and remain in touch with the jewish roots of His Faith. The were never meant to become a god! They are only words “UNLESS” unless interpreted “correctly” by the church that was given the power and authority to do that. I will give you an analogy to help explain. But remember an analogy isn’t the same thing as being the same thing.
If I went and defended you in a court of law using a law book. I might or might not read the law correctly. Even if I did some or even most times the important thing would be "I would have no authority to do that! I am not an attorney or lawyer! I have never been to law school. What would give me the right to “teach or practice” law? The fact that i bought a book on it? How very, very foolish. That is like just like Protestants. You teach yourselves “our” bible and think your faulty interpretations are the truth? As I said foolish. Only God and the Holy Spirit, through Jesus Church can say what is true. Jesus made His One Holy and Apostolic Church not the 61,000 false denominations with 100 versions of the real bible and 1,375 (or more by now) false doctrines being taught to some very nice, sincere, and beautiful people, Who have just mistaken fellowship and ceremony for the real religion left by Jesus.
another analogy to help explain, if you don’t mind. But remember an analogy isn’t the same thing as being the same thing.
**You can drink grape juice and eat Oreo’s in your communion service for all it is worth.
**Yes, of course, Jesus is there “spiritually”, “Where two or more…” But, you don’t have Jesus “Physically” Body and Soul and also “Spiritually” in your church. You don’t join Him at the cross at the second He dies for our sins, you don’t Eat and Drink with Him at the last supper. You don’t have “spiritual life” in Jesus. He said so! Not me! “If you do not eat my body and drink my blood you are spiritually dead. If you do you will obtain eternal life” If you have a Bible read it with Open eyes. Pray that Jesus can lift the veil of doubt and blindness that the devil has placed over your eyes. As Jesus said; “Come! Follow Me!” **
It is a fallacy for anyone to deny the word of God to anyone, or to declare it belongs only to one organization.
It is a fallaccy for people to think they can understand the word of God with out the translater of the word: His Holy Catholic Church. I would not think to deny the word of God to anyone, which of the 100 versions are you referring to? the KJV with the 300 “minor” changes that make it an invalid version? Come on my brother, Jesus wants you to be saved! I do also. I love you with all my heart. Come follow Jesus The Christ and His true church.
God Bless
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RobGentner
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Tony,
- Big correction! The correct books of the Bible were selected 1100 years earlier, at the Councils of Carthage (397 AD), Nicea, and Rome. There were just too many unreal epistles, Gospels around, like the Gospel of Judas, which was declared phony by St Ireneus (sic) about AD 120.
- Exactly. The Bible was given by God for every single peeps, even Rob Gentner and even a New Age ‘priest’ friend.
- And every human being born has been a sinner. The Pope goes to confession (John 20:23) to a Priest, for forgiveness by Our Lord, the Only One who can Forgive.
My fellow warrior In Christ.:knight1: Where have you been? You don’t have to shout to make yourself heard. It makes you true statements no more true and besides it “Hurts” my eyes.
DON’T DO IT AGAIN!
**I have really missed you, on probation?There are souls to be saved in Christ’s name get to work!
Vivat Jesu
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Symux
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Just a quick note, as I couldn’t do a quote from your post. I wanted to say that I appreciate your response.:thankyou:
RobGentner:
I absolutely LOVE that motto! It is indeed something to strive for. You can be sure I’ll be adding that to my Christmas Cards, or would this be frowned upon by the Power Catholic organization?
My family are all Roman Catholic, except myself who had a falling out when I learned things about the history of the church that I was too innocent to accept. Now I’m starting to question that bit, to be honest. I had misgivings, due to being too naive in the ways of men, and absolutely felt that the Church could never, and would never have done anything wrong or questionable … that it came straight from God. Then I learned of some not so nice things from its past and crashed hard. However, this site is helping me to resolve many of those issues.
I also wished to add that your post was well thought out, and appreciated by myself. Thank-you
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SyCarl
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The Catholic Church has officially defined very few passages in Scripture, so even Catholics studying the Bible must rely greatly on personal interpretation, albeit within the framework of the Church teachings. However even then different Catholics interpret the official definitions of the Church in different ways. You must still interpret what the definition means, so what you really have is private interpretation once removed. For example, people may have different interpretation of whether something is a mortal sin.
For practical purposes, in day to day study, Catholics must rely on someone’s private interpretation, including their own.
Only the Magisterium or the Pope can make an infallible interpretation. How does an ordinary Catholic access the Magisterium? A single bishop or priest does not speak infallibly.
The Pope has been defined has infallible under some circumstances, but only two declarations appear to be universally recognized as being infallible, the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption. Catholics cannot agree whether anything else has been infallibly defined. When they assert that it is or not, they are exercising their opinion of what was said.
As to there being thousands of sects, that is a gross exaggeration unless you view each non-demonational church as a separate sect. They believe a church consists of one congregation. This does not mean they differ much, if anything on other matters. Please remember that the source for the 33,000 denominations also says there are more than 200 Catholic denominations.
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Sailka
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We have wonderful ideas and attitudes here, in this great worldwide Web. I drifted away from the Church for long time too, thinking I didn’t need it. I heard many of the same inventions, distortions about it also, and started to think they may be true. Till I started watching EWTN, got the nerve up to try a Mass, nervously. Then Really got up the Courage to Follow Fr Groeschell’s advice to not just watch the Mass. Just go to Lifetime Confession. Was so powerfully Guilt shredding.Just a quick note, as I couldn’t do a quote from your post. I wanted to say that I appreciate your response.:thankyou:
I absolutely LOVE that motto! It is indeed something to strive for. You can be sure I’ll be adding that to my Christmas Cards, or would this be frowned upon by the Power Catholic organization? [SIGN]The Catholic Church has no Power organization. Clergy have great sense of humor, humility. Know every Bishop has a Doctorate? learned that a few months ago. [/SIGN]
My family are all Roman Catholic, except myself who had a falling out when I learned things about the history of the church that I was too innocent to accept. Now I’m starting to question that bit, to be honest. I had misgivings, due to being too naive in the ways of men, and absolutely felt that the Church could never, and would never have done anything wrong or questionable … that it came straight from God. Then I learned of some not so nice things from its past and crashed hard. However, this site is helping me to resolve many of those issues.
I also wished to add that your post was well thought out, and appreciated by myself. Thank-you
Am still learning about the All Beautiful Details of the Church. Guess what? I’ve found Are no Bad things, or Bad Church History. Big Topic. Like the Crusades atrocities were not by the Church. The Church Never Led any Crusades. Only Secular Leaders did. The Sacking of Constantinople began as The Sponsors, The Banks of Venice, Wanting to recoup the large unpaid Debt that Constantinople had made no payments in. The treasures were mostly kept by Individuals, not returned to the bankers. Ditto a Large Number of falsely alleged evils in Church History.
Please throw a few of those Wrongs/Evils about Church History to is. May be a Great New Thread: *Evils in Church History/*COLOR]
. Surprise! Virtually none hold water. Have checked Most out.
For myself, The More I Learn of the Church, and Church History, the more I fall in love with It.
Know that the Sign Of Peace at every Catholic Mass, after the Lord’s Payer, was begun by the Apostles? They realized that their congregations had some Proud, Jealous, Van, embittetred people like now? That is why they began the Eastern Tradition “Kiss Of Peace” hug. Ditto: :newidea: The Church is the Most Humble, Ideal, Idealistic big Organization on earth. I plan to publish Soon on that. :compcoff:
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justasking4
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Brillant post…
If there are supposedly thousands of different interpretations in Prostant churches there are easily millions of different interpretations in the Catholic church since there are millions of catholics. To think that a priest or a bishop cannot give the final and final interpretation of a verse of Scripture since the church offically never means a catholic must rely on the personal interpretation of the priest or bishop. Sounds a lot like protestantism to me…
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Sailka
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We have the History of the Verses available. :bible1: And we rarelly need to invent Our Readings of verses. Those are ideas of Men. We can not hold, teach views against Basic Catholic Teaching…Like Mary was just another woman, and had Sex, other children after Jesus. Our Church Fathers were there, especially St John. Correct History is Very basic part of The Church, aka Tradition is important.Brillant post…
And we have some documents from the first centuries that survived the sackings of Rome, Jerusalem. The Church was the First Record Keeper in the West, and USA: Baptismal, Marriage records.And the Church Nunbers 1.1 Billion Roman Catholic, about 200-300 Million Orthodox, We are about 70% of all Christians. :grouphug: And RC is Fastest growing one in USA, again. Only 3 Christian Churches Grew last year in USA, all the other denominations declined by Half Percent: Secularism, Globalization.
The Church Lives Truth. All of it. Unbiased. Truthfullness, Honesty are Essential part of Catholicism.
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Sailka
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We have the History of the Verses available. :bible1: And we rarelly need to invent Our Readings of verses. Those are ideas of Men. We can not hold, teach views against Basic Catholic Teaching…Like Mary was just another woman, and had Sex, other children after Jesus. Our Church Fathers were there, especially St John. Correct History is Very basic part of The Church, aka Tradition is important.
And the Church Nunbers 1.1 Billion Roman Catholic, about 200-300 Million Orthodox, We are about 70% of all Christians. And RC is Fastest growing one in USA, again. Only 3 Christian Churches Grew last year in USA, all the other denominagtions declined by Half Percent: Secularism, Globalization.
The Church Lives Truth. All of it. Unbiased. Truthfullness, Honesty are Essential part of Catholicism.:bible1:
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The Bible is Gods book and is for everyone.
and no Catholic wrote it so i find this amusing and ignorent
and no Catholic wrote it so i find this amusing and ignorent
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