I am so glad I’m not a Prot anymore. That idiotic, uneducated, downright FOOLISH attitude of “it’s either this er that!” annoys me sooo much. No, it’s not either this or that. In your feeble mind it might be, but that just goes to show how incredibly ignorant you are.
No, you are not. I have only read up to this point, but I have yet to hear you logically explain how the two statements you supposedly hear over and over are illogical. WHY are they illogical. Explain it to me logically. ‘You can’t take credit for the positive and pass the buck on the negative’ means absolutely nothing. You love logic so much, surely you can use it to explain your position. I program computers, I use logic every day. So I’ll try to get down to the bones of it.
HINT! If I were designing a circuit board, I would use an AND gate for this one!
So, all of the non-catholic Christian priest has done no sin at all? Wow, their list of Saints must be longer than ours.
Yes, there are differences between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches, but you said that the difference is in the Catholic Church between then and now. I ask again, what is the difference?
The OP needs an AND, since he proposes the output to be true. But from my perspective, you are absolutely correct, since I propose IF ‘Church’ = ‘Institution’ NAND ‘Church’ = ‘collection of individuals’, THEN “‘Church’ responsible for both good and evil” = FALSEI think a NAND gate would be better.
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Yes, all the denominations (including The Catholic Church) that have made a formal, officially acknowledgment of the canonical list of books have embrace the same list (the DEUTERO books aside, not more than 1 denomination agrees on that).
Still living in La-La land, aren’t you CJ.
No. The OO has one set of Deutero books. The EO has another unique set. The CC has another unique set. No more than one denomination agrees on the set of approved DEUTERO books. There’s no agreement beyond ONE denomination for any “set” of them. But all that is moot to the question of this thread. Did The Catholic Church (not the Jews, not the OO, not the EO, not God, not penmen, but the specific, particular The Catholic Church) give us all the material of Scripture from Genesis 1:1 - Revelation 22:21, all the words therein?
Red Herring. We have never made any such claim.
Although CATHOLICS often do. Anywhere from “The Catholic Church wrote the Bible” to “The Catholic Church gave us the Bible” and all variations of such.
A point Catholics often seem to just not know, the very ones who keep shouting about how they know the history of all this - and Protestants don’t.
Well, history shows it did not do the first. That was done (in many cases CENTURIES) before ANYTHING did ANYTHING in this regard. The MOST that historically can even be claimed is that it ACKNOWLEDGED what had already been embraced. Just as my Catholic teachers taught us. To ACKNOWLEDGE is not the same as to produce, write, give, select.
Well, whatever power self may claim for self is another issue for another day and thread. The reality is: most denominations have - in some formal, official way - acknowledged the Scriptures as such. You may regard Trent as “the authoritative voice” for YOU but the reality is: voices said the same thing before and after The Catholic Church.
Because, so far - no Catholic has answered it. Did The Catholic Church (not Jews, not Christians, not God, not The Orthodox Church - but specifically, singularly, particularly The Catholic Church) “give” (not acknowledge or choose) “the Bible” (all the corpus of materials therein - the words from Genesis 1:1 - Revelation 22:21)? That’s the often made claim: “The Catholic Church gave the Bible to us.” Yes or No?
Well what did I say? I could have said Christians, Catholic, members of the Church, followers of Christ, whatever. Thing is, it would have meant the same thing, considering the era. It would be silly to demand that we refer to some sort of official registry.
Your Catholic teachers apparently were not too good at their job since their student has fallen away from the True Chuerch
That is a false statement. It has been answered multiple times.
But don’t you understand??? You’ve received the answer many times over… THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS THE BIBLE before the Catholic Church assembled the inspired Scriptures to assemble the Bible. Call it what you will, from the institution of the Church to today’s Catholic Church, it was the same batch of Christians that put the books together to form what we call the Bible.