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HankZ
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So if you hurl insults like a (fill in your own thing), accuse falsely like a (fill in your own thing), then you must be a (fill in your own thing)?
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Matariel
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Um, the Catholic Church is not a denomination; it’s pre-denominational. Catholics don’t have denominations, only Protestants do.
What do you mean by this phrase?
But God’s Word is what led me to the Catholic Church… why are you so sure that your private interpretation, when private interpretation is condemned in the Bible? And of course I believe in God’s Word.
Look. In Protestantism, it’s “every man for himself” when it comes to Bible interpretation. But I rely on the unchanging doctrine of the Church, straight from the apostles, whose successors are fulfilling Christ’s words and spreading the unchanging Gospel of God throughout all the nations of the world.
What do they have to do with anything? (By the way, the worship in Heaven, as described in Revelation, looks awefully Catholic: Incense, altar, golden candlestands, “Holy, Holy,Holy,” (said at every Mass) etc., Catholics take “on earth as it is in Heaven” very literally when it comes to worshipping Almighty God.
)You’re welcome. May God bless you on your spiritual journey.
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guanophore
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No, I disagree with your erroneous understanding of what the Church teaches. People do make mistakes, including popes, and the charism of infallibility does not mean impeccability. You have been wrongly taught about the Catholic Church. If you are here to have your misconceptions corrected, then I commend you.
No,Hank, what you have been taught is false. The Septuagint was affirmed by the Church when the NT canon was closed in the fourth century. There were no bibles published without these books until Luther removed them 500 years ago.
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*Jesus said: “You will know them by their FRUIT.”Um, the Catholic Church is not a denomination; it’s pre-denominational. Catholics don’t have denominations, only Protestants do.
What do you mean by this phrase?
But God’s Word is what led me to the Catholic Church… why are you so sure that your private interpretation, when private interpretation is condemned in the Bible? And of course I believe in God’s Word.
Look. In Protestantism, it’s “every man for himself” when it comes to Bible interpretation. But I rely on the unchanging doctrine of the Church, straight from the apostles, whose successors are fulfilling Christ’s words and spreading the unchanging Gospel of God throughout all the nations of the world.
What do they have to do with anything? (By the way, the worship in Heaven, as described in Revelation, looks awefully Catholic: Incense, altar, golden candlestands, “Holy, Holy,Holy,” (said at every Mass) etc., Catholics take “on earth as it is in Heaven” very literally when it comes to worshipping Almighty God.
You’re welcome. May God bless you on your spiritual journey.
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Realcatholicgk
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Hi Matariel,
Thanks for your testamony, Even some Cradle Catholics on here don’t understand about the cancerous growth that started to devower the body of Christ 500 years ago. If it wasn’t for the Holy Spirit and the church’s ability not to fall for the lies and deception that the “separated brethren” had from Satan the church as a body might have collapsed, which might have brought about the second coming. Knowledgable people realize the Protestant reformation was an attack against Jesus’ church. Now who would want to attack and destroy Jesus’ church? The lie is that things are getting better now, they separated brethren" are at 61,000 denominations and growing at a rate of two more a week.
And they worry about our souls! **
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This is most definitely the case!
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HankZ
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Yes, very worried.**
Hi Matariel,
Thanks for your testamony, Even some Cradle Catholics on here don’t understand about the cancerous growth that started to devower the body of Christ 500 years ago. If it wasn’t for the Holy Spirit and the church’s ability not to fall for the lies and deception that the “separated brethren” had from Satan the church as a body might have collapsed, which might have brought about the second coming. Knowledgable people realize the Protestant reformation was an attack against Jesus’ church. Now who would want to attack and destroy Jesus’ church? The lie is that things are getting better now, they separated brethren" are at 61,000 denominations and growing at a rate of two more a week.
And they worry about our souls! **
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Realcatholicgk
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**Pray why, my foolish child? Who dies and made you God? Remember that before 1517AD, there was One Christian Church “ONE” with several different “sects”. (They are still firmly together even today! ). While some were attempting to right some wrong practices in the Church, the devil saw this as a change to infect the christian church and steal souls from the real church . You have a soul stolen from Jesus. Do you need proof? You hate to read but your soul depends on your reading John 6: and trusting that Jesus wouldn’t lie to you!
God Bless **
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Matariel
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That was a little over the top, Realcatholicgk. We shouldn’t laugh at them-- I’m sure most of them are sincere, although they seem to be unknowledgable about Catholic doctrine.
I apologize, HankZ.
Anyway, did you see my last post?
And, Realcatholicgk, although I mostly agree with you, that the Protestant Revolt was basically a stint with early theological humanism and liberalism, you should not insult Protestants like that. That only hardens people against the Church’s holy message.
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God loves everyone, but probably prefers “fruits of the spirit” over “religious nuts!”**
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HankZ
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I am worried because you seem to have fallen for Satans lies and are headed to hell. I fear for you, especially since you are more than happy to follow him and believe that you are ok. It troubles me deeply. I do read scripture and that is where I find the only truths available. You it is are to afraid of reading God’s word and hearing what He has to say. If this were not true, you would be fleeing the Catholic Church. Why do you think John was amazed in Revelation? It was because he saw what the followers of Christ had started as the church had become. Do not be decieved any longer, beg God for forgiveness that you may escape the fires of hell, before you run out of time.
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Signs of reverence and affection do not equate to worship, which is for God alone. The sale of any item has nothing to do with any infallible teaching of the pope. However, I would like to see some evidence from you about this accusation. Please show me a teaching from the pope, in his “infallible voice” (which I think you don’t understand at all) that buying any pictures will bring someone prosperity. I think you just made that up!
Again I will refer you to the forum rules, which you may not have read, or are choosing to disregard. If you want to stay here, then you will need to follow them.
No. How many? If they say it is not a sin to be drunk, then they don’t understand what the Catholic church teaches any more than you do!
It is a sad fact that there are many poorly catechized Catholics who are living in sin, and justify it to themselves.
No, Hank, this is a real perversion of Catholicism!
Actually, I doubt that such Catholics, being that ignorant about their faith, would be able to defend it at all.
It seems prudent, especially when on one’s death bed, to seek forgiveness from anyone whom one may have sinned against, don’t you think?
Really?! :bigyikes:
Did you hand out free magazines, movies, and sex toys? :bigyikes:
Gracious mercy. I suppose that there may be some gambling addicts at the bingo. Somehow I hardly think they are making the church “Thrive”. I love the line out of Mrs. Doubtfire where she says “it is my turn to pull the balls at the rectory”, referring to managing the bingo.
This is very Catholic of you! The Catholic Church teaches that one should not be enslaved to anything, therefore, addiction to gambling, alchohol, sex, or what have you are all considered falling short.
This is too bad. Since there is only one Church, I prefer to believe that all who are members of Christ’s one Body are member of it. I don’t know if it is “massive”…but it is One.
Yes. I think there are really no two alike. Separation and division seem to be the fruit of the Reformation.
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Matariel
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Um, the Catholic Church is not a denomination; it’s pre-denominational. Catholics don’t have denominations, only Protestants do.
What do you mean by this phrase?
But God’s Word is what led me to the Catholic Church… why are you so sure that your private interpretation, when private interpretation is condemned in the Bible? And of course I believe in God’s Word.
Look. In Protestantism, it’s “every man for himself” when it comes to Bible interpretation. But I rely on the unchanging doctrine of the Church, straight from the apostles, whose successors are fulfilling Christ’s words and spreading the unchanging Gospel of God throughout all the nations of the world.
What do they have to do with anything? (By the way, the worship in Heaven, as described in Revelation, looks awefully Catholic: Incense, altar, golden candlestands, “Holy, Holy,Holy,” (said at every Mass) etc., Catholics take “on earth as it is in Heaven” very literally when it comes to worshipping Almighty God. )
You’re welcome. May God bless you on your spiritual journey.
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HankZ
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In the end times it will be like the days of Noah. They didn’t believe until the water reached their necks.Signs of reverence and affection do not equate to worship, which is for God alone. The sale of any item has nothing to do with any infallible teaching of the pope. However, I would like to see some evidence from you about this accusation. Please show me a teaching from the pope, in his “infallible voice” (which I think you don’t understand at all) that buying any pictures will bring someone prosperity. I think you just made that up!
Again I will refer you to the forum rules, which you may not have read, or are choosing to disregard. If you want to stay here, then you will need to follow them.
No. How many? If they say it is not a sin to be drunk, then they don’t understand what the Catholic church teaches any more than you do!
It is a sad fact that there are many poorly catechized Catholics who are living in sin, and justify it to themselves.
No, Hank, this is a real perversion of Catholicism!
Actually, I doubt that such Catholics, being that ignorant about their faith, would be able to defend it at all.
It seems prudent, especially when on one’s death bed, to seek forgiveness from anyone whom one may have sinned against, don’t you think?
Really?! :bigyikes:
Did you hand out free magazines, movies, and sex toys? :bigyikes:
Gracious mercy. I suppose that there may be some gambling addicts at the bingo. Somehow I hardly think they are making the church “Thrive”. I love the line out of Mrs. Doubtfire where she says “it is my turn to pull the balls at the rectory”, referring to managing the bingo.
This is very Catholic of you! The Catholic Church teaches that one should not be enslaved to anything, therefore, addiction to gambling, alchohol, sex, or what have you are all considered falling short.
This is too bad. Since there is only one Church, I prefer to believe that all who are members of Christ’s one Body are member of it. I don’t know if it is “massive”…but it is One.
Yes. I think there are really no two alike. Separation and division seem to be the fruit of the Reformation.
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Realcatholicgk
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That was a little over the top, Realcatholicgk.
** Not my intent at all. I am called a Power Catholic. Everything I say is said with love and respect for the person. Jesus berated the devil remember? Us Power Catholics are a loose knit group who live by one motto:**
[SIGN] Powerful Catholic’s Motto:
Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says… ‘Oh hell…he’s awake!!’ [/SIGN]
We shouldn’t laugh at them-- I’m sure most of them are sincere, although they seem to be unknowledgable about Catholic doctrine. I apologize, HankZ.
** Actually I am positive that ALL of them are sincere! I believe they are good people who actually believe they are following the teachings of Jesus and the word of God. I also know that they are deadly wrong and their eternal souls are at stake. In christian Love I must attempt to save them from eternal damnation. I would never apologize for speaking the truth! But I will apologize if the real word of God offends anyone! **
Anyway, did you see my last post?
And, Realcatholicgk, although I mostly agree with you, that the Protestant Revolt was basically a stint with early theological humanism and liberalism, you should not insult Protestants like that. That only hardens people against the Church’s holy message.
** And, Matariel, Do you realize that English is the only language where two positives when spoken together make a negative?
My answer to your above statement is Yea,Right! They insult God with their foolishness!have you read hankz’s insults towards our faith? If Hankz heart was any harder it couldn’t beat old buddy!
Everything I say, every word was said in love and with respect for the person just not his false, counterfeit,corrupted, twisted demented, denomination or doctrine. And I say that with all christian love and respect!
God Bless **
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Matariel
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You haven’t responded to my post, #727.
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guanophore
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“the very breath”…
I am sorry that you did not understand correctly the Teaching of the Church, or were poorly catechized. Indeed, your righteousness does have to exceed even the most meticulous religious person.
Matt 5:20
20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
But He was talking about the righteousness that comes by grace, through faith, not of works, lest any should boast. It seems that your understanding of purgatory is also erroneous, however, it never hurts to have the prayers of the saints!
I think it would be more accurate to say that you will not attain salvation, since you are not signed, sealed and delivered until the last day.
Granted, he should not have been, but there has been a gross and flagrant poor catechesis in the last 40 years, and a whole generation of misinformed Catholics who were taught outright lies in catechism classes. I know, I was one of them! I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt that someone misled him.
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Matariel
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You still haven’t responded to my post, #727, HankZ.
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