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gam197
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Not to be nosey but do you mind telling me your old handle or pm me it? So many people have come here and I knew that some have changed names. I miss so many posters.
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The church will become small ...She will no longer be able to inhabit many of the edifices she built [like CAF]
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MarysLurker
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Yes, but mostly from devout Protestants, mostly Evangelicals… who are becoming an endangered species for the same reasons.
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AlNg
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Muslim sites growing rapidly with one site alone having over one million 500 thousand subscribers.
Catholic Answers shutting down its forum with 70 people per day contributing.
What does that tell us?
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MarysLurker
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I’d prefer not to because I need to remain anonymous for mysterious purposes having to do with my occupation. Thanks for understanding.
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stpurl
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It tells us nothing. Correlation does not apply causation.
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MarysLurker
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Correlation doesn’t prove causation. Sometimes it suggests relationship and sometimes… not so much.
But this has been thoroughly discussed in this thread already. We need to learn to live in opposition to the dominant culture like they do, and be authentic witnesses to our own Faith.
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I have also joined fellow Catholics on fb some who post a (have a good orthodox understanding) lot on the faith and appreciate some of their posts it’s good to share the gospel, and richness of our faith, but will leave my few posts there because even if one person who doesn’t have our fellowship in Jesus benefits it has been worth it to me.
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stpurl
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I agree, but I was replying to AINg specifically with regard to ‘what does it say when Muslim growth is so high and the CAF forums are closing with low turnout”.
I still say it says nothing. There are plenty of reasons for the forums to be closing and there are plenty of reasons for the current ‘rise’ in Muslims, and they aren’t necessarily related to one ‘shrinking in popularity’ and the other growing.
I still say it says nothing. There are plenty of reasons for the forums to be closing and there are plenty of reasons for the current ‘rise’ in Muslims, and they aren’t necessarily related to one ‘shrinking in popularity’ and the other growing.
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MarysLurker
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So are some places in the USA, yet the Church’s charitable efforts here aren’t producing an evangelization dividend.
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AlNg
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Catholic world population 1.2 billion 2015 with growth rate of 1.1%.
Muslim world population 1.8 billion 2015 with growth rate 2.2%
Muslim fertility rate of 3.1 children per woman is higher than any other major religion.
Catholic forums shutting down.
Muslim sites increasing.
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Noted.
I have witnessed swarms of phony accounts controlled by one person used to remove posts in that way.
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TheLittleLady
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This is not the only “site” for Catholic discussion on the Internet.
With the low level of posters online in a given day (provided above), would be safe to say that it is not even one of the most active places for Catholic discussion on the Internet.
And how big was CAF when it had been in existence less than two weeks? Just saying.
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AlNg
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Which are the most active places for Catholic discussion on the internet today?
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Rozellelily
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Correlation may not equal causation in the sense of why CAF is closing, but there is no denying that interest in Islam is growing a lot. Even a casual observer will see this. Look at the Catholic Church pews in western countries- they are populated primarily by the over 60’s. Young people perceive it as out of touch with their lives and their concerns.
On the other hand you have “prominent” Muslims (e.g., Mufti Menk, Daud Kim) using social media like Youtube and Tiktok discussing issues that are relevant to younger adults such as talking about anger, family discord issues, stingy or extravagant spouses, divorce, stress, social media use, beauty, road rage, etc and just generally heaps of relevant topics today.
They even have many subscribers in countries not typically Islamic such as South Korea.
On the other hand you have “prominent” Muslims (e.g., Mufti Menk, Daud Kim) using social media like Youtube and Tiktok discussing issues that are relevant to younger adults such as talking about anger, family discord issues, stingy or extravagant spouses, divorce, stress, social media use, beauty, road rage, etc and just generally heaps of relevant topics today.
They even have many subscribers in countries not typically Islamic such as South Korea.
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MarysLurker
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AlNg
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Someone was claiming that CAF is not one of the most active places on the internet. If Reddit is a distant second to CAF it would not be more active than CAF.
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MarysLurker
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The person who said distant second was referring to total users, not active users. CAF has more total users because of its age and former prominence. But r/Catholicism on Reddit has about 700 daily actives versus CAF’s 70.
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I wouldn’t live in The Villages of Florida if they gave me a house. (If I were homeless, I guess I’d then have a decision to make.) I do not want to be around nobody except other seniors. Living in what is to some extent a “naturally occurring retirement community” (NORC) is bad enough. We are starting to have younger families move in, people of various ethnicities in a neighborhood that was once lily-white, and it is refreshing to see children playing, riding their bicycles, and the other day, the neighbor boy was even climbing a tree. As the elderly people are dying off (that may sound cruel but it’s the truth), it seems that families who want a safe, well-kept (fairly strict HOA), attractive, affordable neighborhood are discovering ours. It’s all good.
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