The Decline of Obituaries and Funeral Services

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Do you have the Parastas service as well?
It seems to vary. I’m sad to say that I’ve been to about 4 funerals at my parish and a neighboring parish since I moved home and it’s been split.
 
I have heard of a “green burial” and they are what I would want. No casket is used. It is usually done in a special area of the cemetery. It doesn’t need a headstone. They just wrap the body in a shroud and place it in the ground.
 
When I go I’ve made arrangements to be cremated then some of me buried next to my little sister and little brother and my grandparents. And to be scattered from flight as being in the air is were I find peace.
 
For a green burial the body can be placed in a simple wooden or cardboard box as well because they will also decompose. The primary aspects that make a funeral green are that the body is not embalmed and that it is buried in something that will also decompose. No fancy casket or metal vault. I believe most traditional cemeteries in the US won’t let a body be buried without a vault. Which is why a green cemetery is used. Check out Caitin Doughty on YouTube. Her channel is Ask a Mortician. She is a huge supporter of natural burial and death positivity.
 
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I’ve also noticed the decline of funerals in lieu of “celebration of life” gatherings. Cremation has certainly become more popular as funeral costs have risen. My mother in law recently passed away earlier this year and her funeral was roughly $5000. She wasn’t Catholic so we had a simple viewing before the funeral service at the church. There wasn’t even an obituary b/c my father in law is cheap and it cost ~$200 to publish…that’s ridiculous.

I just want to be buried naturally in a pine box (painted red if I can b/c it’s my favorite color). Have the funeral ASAP and if people can come then they can come…I don’t want to be embalmed. I’m Eastern Catholic and I will have a funeral in the church but I refuse to cause undue monetary stress on any remaining family members.
 
No, they don’t, $8,000 is a ton of money to a family who is living paycheck to paycheck. Haven’t you heard the middle class is shrinking. And as for life insurance that’s expensive also. People should have but I know a lot who don’t.
 
No, they don’t
I think more people have more money that you think. The number of new cars out there at crazy prices- the average is north of $25000 I’d bet, and the popularity of Jim Cramer’s “Mad Money” program tells me that a lot of people are being close to the vest with the kind of money they actually have.
 
Prayers for the soul of the departed? Not sure quite what that means.

Like, “Oh, Susie has fourteen people praying, so let’s move her from purgatory to heaven…”?
 
I’m happy for you that your reality is more affluent than mine. The only vehicle I know the value of is mine. $3000 I am 45 and have never owned a new vehicle. Just because someone of driving a car that expensive doesn’t mean that they haven’t sunk themselves into enormous debt to drive it. You know keeping up with the Joneses and all. People don’t want to feel poor. Especially if the grew up comfortable in middle class families.
Do funeral homes have payment plans like a car loan? I’m sure they do for preplanned arrangements but it wouldn’t be very business savvy to offer them after services rendered.
 
Do funeral homes have payment plans like a car loan? I’m sure they do for preplanned arrangements but it wouldn’t be very business savvy to offer them after services rendered.
A lot funeral homes accept credit cards if you want to pay after.
 
Death, is a fact. Everyone needs to plan ahead because no one escapes death or knows when it is coming. It is not fair to leave expenses for family to pay. Neither is it fair to expect a business to not charge something for their service. That is why pre arranging and making our wishes/plan known to family is a good idea.
 
Prayers for the soul of the departed? Not sure quite what that means.

Like, “Oh, Susie has fourteen people praying, so let’s move her from purgatory to heaven…”?
In a way, yeah. Think of purgatory as a prison sentence, and prayers for the dead alleviate their sentence.
 
My husband and I don’t have credit cards. But that made me think that funeral homes very likely might offer some sort of a outsourced credit program like the dentist office does now. But quite frankly I wouldn’t want to be paying for a funeral for 5 years. And you are probably wondering why it would take me 5 years to pay off an $8000 balance and the reason is as follows. A $8000 divided by 60 is 133.00 and change and that does not count interest. I’m not even sure how much interest would run on an $8000 balance. So really we’re talking at the very least probably a $150 a month if you’re paying the minimum, correct me if I’m wrong. Even a $150 would seriously stress my current budget.
We obviously live in very different worlds.
 
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I think more people have more money that you think. The number of new cars out there at crazy prices- the average is north of $25000 I’d bet, and the popularity of Jim Cramer’s “Mad Money” program tells me that a lot of people are being close to the vest with the kind of money they actually have.
I don’t think you realize how many people are living paycheck-to-paycheck to pay for that new car, the house, the vacations – all that keeping-up-swith-the-Jones’ nonsense. They don’t have any kind of decent emergency fund, let alone $10-$20k to pay for a funeral.
 
I don’t think you realize how many people are living paycheck-to-paycheck to pay for that new car, the house, the vacations – all that keeping-up-swith-the-Jones’ nonsense. They don’t have any kind of decent emergency fund, let alone $10-$20k to pay for a funeral.
I think part of the problem is that people don’t live within their means sometimes. I believe that there have always been people living paycheck to paycheck, and there have always been funeral expenses. But if one strives to keep up with the Joneses by spending money they should be saving, that is a problem that has nothing to do with the cost of a funeral. As I said upthread, everyone needs to plan ahead, because death is going to happen. And for some, it will come earlier than they think.
 
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I am approved for the veterans cemetery.

Plan is for a funeral Mass.
 
Yes, everyone should plan ahead. The earlier you buy life insurance the cheaper it will be. And no matter how little one’s earnings, don’t spend more than your income. Save some every month, first to pay for your funeral, and second to pay for your retirement.

One of the Catholic cemeteries in our diocese does offer green burial, with no casket required. The names of the deceased are inscribed on a large wall, somewhat like the Vietnam Memorial.

For myself, I hope when I die no one has a “celebration of life.” I want a Catholic funeral Mass, and I hope that people will have some Masses offered for me. The cemetery space is already paid for.

It should be noted that for Catholics, while cremation is acceptable, the ashes must not be scattered, but interred, preferably in a Catholic cemetery.
 
One of the Catholic cemeteries in our diocese does offer green burial, with no casket required. T
The advantage to cremation is that you can just rent a casket if you want a viewing, which is less expensive.

Further, after its done, you can bury the cremains and put the grave marker right up. You don’t have to wait for the ground to settle. You don’t have to bury cremains nearly as deep.
 
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