The Divine Mercy

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I would expect us all to be long dead before then… but I could be wrong. No one knows. Only God knows.

Don’t stress about the end of it all. Find joy in the life God gave you. 🙏🕊️
 
All of the ideas contained within the Divine Mercy are already present in public revelation (Tradition, Scripture, and the Magisterium), and it is required for a Catholic to submit to Tradition, Scripture, and the Magisterium.

It is not specifically required to submit to particular private revelations.
 
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Roseeurekacross said:
I would expect us all to be long dead before then… but I could be wrong. No one knows. Only God knows.
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But in the revelations St. Faustina received, did Jesus backpedal and imply the end of the world is imminent or is it still that He doesn’t know when the end is either, that only the Father knows?
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Since you’re so interested in this, you really should get a copy of the Diary and read it for yourself. It’s available in paperback and e-book, not terribly expensive at all.
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But in the revelations St. Faustina received, did Jesus backpedal and imply the end of the world is imminent or is it still that He doesn’t know when the end is either, that only the Fathet knows?
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Um, I don’t think Jesus “backpedals.”

Since you’re so interested in this, you really should get a copy of the Diary and read it for yourself. It’s available in paperback and e-book, not terribly expensive at all.
 
I don’t remember in the slightest anything about end of the world talk.

I’ve never understood the obsession with the “end of the world.”

My own “end of the world” will come in the next 50 years. I don’t see why people don’t pay more attention to that.
 
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Um, I don’t think Jesus “backpedals.”

Since you’re so interested in this, you really should get a copy of the Diary and read it for yourself. It’s available in paperback and e-book, not terribly expensive at all.
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Does that mean that even in the case of St. Faustina, no one knows, including Jesus, but the Father?
 
This idea of, who knows the end of the world? and if Jesus knew is a conflicted question, which one will quickly see if asking the question has an OP.
 
Hope, I meant exactly what I said. Don’t try to read more into it.
 
“But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Well, I’m not a scripture scholar, and it’s better to ask as a single topic on the forum, but…

It can be argued that Jesus is referring to the fact that it is not part of Jesus’s mission to provide any sort of revelation to the date of the end of the world. It is completely irrelevant to Jesus coming to spread the Gospel, and the disciples had no right to even ask the question in the first place. It’s a secret bound up in the trinity.

In that light, people should stop obsessing about trying to discern when it is.
 
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It can be argued that Jesus is referring to the fact that it is not part of Jesus’s mission to provide any sort of revelation to the date of the end of the world. It is completely irrelevant to Jesus coming to spread the Gospel, and the disciples had no right to even ask the question in the first place. It’s a secret bound up in the trinity
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That makes sense if He didn’t suggest the end of the world is imminent to St. Faustina.
 
I think also it can be argued that the Church has always said the end of the world is “imminent”.
 
On the subject of the Divine Mercy, I was at a Catholic bookstore today, and I saw a somewhat different image of the Divine Mercy than I had seen before. It turns out (surprise!) that the most common image of the Divine Mercy (in the US) is not the same one that Faustina had the painter work on in her lifetime. The image that Faustina knew was done by the Polish artist Eugene Kazimirowski. It is commonly known as the Vilnius image:

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Then there is a 1943 painting done by the Polish artist Adolf Hyla. The one most commonly seen in the US, is a 1992 revision of Hyla’s painting, by an American named Kathleen Weber.

There is another famous image by the American artist Robert Skemp in 1982 (this one seems like the one that most faithfully follows the instructions that Faustina got in the vision). For instance, Faustina’s instructions were that the rays should be directed toward the viewer of the image. (Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

What I don’t understand is why the most popular one is Weber’s, which seems to not follow Faustina’s instructions very closely? To be honest, the facial hair on Our Lord in the Weber image has always seemed weirdly groomed, with the pencil-thin mustache. It’s always looked a little like the mustache of a matinee idol (somebody like Errol Flynn, only with a beard). The Hyla (the one that Weber’s is based on) has more natural-looking beard, as do the others.

I know there’s the quote from Faustina that talks about the mercy of Our Lord is more important the the brush or the paint, but don’t you think that Our Lord gave specific instructions for a reason?
Anyway, you can see them all here:


Does anyone know why the Weber one is the most common one?
 
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I think also it can be argued that the Church has always said the end of the world is “imminent”.
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And what exactly does She mean by “imminent? Imminent means soon, but the way it was explained to me (if I’m remembering correctly) by a theologian who used to be my Bible Study teacher, and is a former seminary teacher, Times are divided into three parts, before Jesus, during the days Jesus walked the earth, and the last days which is from Pentecost until whenever, no one knows.

If imminent means “soon” to the Church,why didnt Jesus return 1,500 years ago?
 
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Hope1960 said:
did Jesus backpedal
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Seriously Hope.

I can’t believe I just read this. You think Jesus would do such a thing. Sorry folks just kidding about the Passion. Just kidding about all miracles.

I have the diary. You are misinterpreting it.

Jesus said

Only the Father knows the hour.

That clearly means only the Father knows the hour
 
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Hope1960 said:
My former priest, and current priest said that no one knows when and that it could be a looooooong time
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And they are correct.

Imminent in the Divine sense could mean one day or one billion days.

You are missing the message.

That message is to keep your soul in a state of Grace
 
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