14 year olds are not babies, but they are not fully consenting adults, either. If they were, they could vote, serve in the military and we wouldn’t need stat rape laws, even for the girls
Yes. I don’t hate Josh for this. He needed help when he was a kid, and he was denied it, and he and his sisters all suffered for it.
I registered on this forum when I was 21 and it was my online username for many forums at the time that I had been using since my teens. I think it’s time for an upgraded username now that I’m nearing my 30’s though.First of all, thank you for your insight, and God bless you for the work you do.
Also, your forum name is the last thing I’d expect for someone that works with juvenile sex offenders.
What do you call or when a parent knows that their child is being sexually victimized and takes no steps to protect that child?
I think calling him an “upstanding adult” is questionable. This guy isn’t a saint; he’s an influence-peddler and a political operative, a profession where amorality is a necessary attribute.
It’s “just too bad” that these parents allowed their daughters to be molested for at least a year and did nothing? That is simply appalling. And there is no question of innocence, he admitted the abuse then and admits it now.
That’s the fundamental issue right there. Something that the Duggar parents unfortunately don’t seem to grasp…or Anna Duggar for that matter.
Concur to the first part, but “we don’t know” to the second.
Jim Bob (is that really his name?) has a lot to answer for, but let’s not cloud it with speculation of his intentions.
This comment just goes to show how the real issue in all of this is forwarding the gay “marriage” movement by attacking FRC.
Ok, that may be true if the offender actually gets professional help. That did NOT happen in this case. So imo, Josh Duggar is still very much a danger to children.
Thank you for the link. I wanted to read it for myself as I thought this was being over sensationalized. I just finished reading the police report (narrative starts on page 11). I was hoping that this was just some isolated thing but it wasn’t. On the couch while they were sleeping, in the mother’s chair while they were reading a children’s book about a raccoon, in the laundry room, etc. And then after all that one of the siblings tells the investigator he was still allowed to babysit for “short times” or with another babysitter present.
I agree.
Perhaps you might give some time to researching sexual offense, especially among juveniles, before you decide who is and who isn’t at risk. There is a lot of hysteria out there that frankly should not be. I don’t think that Josh Duggar is any more of a threat to children than you are.
You didn’t know at the age of 14 about inappropriate touching? I didn’t sleep through being 14 and I am no angel. I did know by then that molesting people was wrong and since I had been molested a few years before, I knew how traumatic that experience is. Maybe I was just intelligent. I was VP of the Jr. Beta Club at that age. Maybe that is why I think 14 year olds should know better because I had sense at that age.
So, the only way to rehabilitate a teen guilty of sexual misconduct is professional help? It’s impossible to outgrow it, provide positive and constructive mentoring, or other more mundane means? The idea that only through professional help are people rehabilitated is IMO the arrogance of the social sciences.
I’m sorry, you must have trouble reading. No where did my comment mention gay marriage or the FRC. In fact, you are the one who keeps defending Josh because gays are bad or something.
My comment was aimed at those who are insinuating that certain people criticiziing Josh are being hypocrites because they are part of a culture that supports homosexual sex, or praising the Duggars for not seeking outside help because the culture is so hedonistic.
Why are we talking more about the “scars of childhood” of Josh Duggar, the PERP? Why are we ignoring the “scars of childhood” his actions left on children who were even younger than he was?
IME, the worst thing next to being sexually abused as a child is telling your parents and they do nothing to protect you. Parental inaction causes more long term damage than people think. At least in this case, it sounds like the parents believed the girls and at least attempted to do something about it, but they didn’t go far enough. Deep down, those girls know it.Thank you for the link. I wanted to read it for myself as I thought this was being over sensationalized. I just finished reading the police report (narrative starts on page 11). I was hoping that this was just some isolated thing but it wasn’t. On the couch while sleeping, in the mother’s chair while reading a children’s book about a raccoon, in the laundry room, etc. And then after all that one of the siblings tells the investigator he was still allowed to babysit for “short times” or with another babysitter present.
My older boy cousin did this to me and I never told anyone. Shame on the adults for knowing about it and continuing to allow him to be in charge as a babysitter for even 5 seconds. I can’t believe I ever paid for this show on itunes and looked up to the parents.
They go for counseling because they molested someone? Can you give me a link to that program?
Not an illogical deduction, but what is important to realize is that is anecdotal at best. Not everyone is the same, and someone who raised differently or has mental issues is not always aware of the gravity of what they are doing.