The Eucharist; superstition?

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Convert66 said:
Zundrah, think about what you are really saying:

"How badly do I want him? I already have him, that’s why it is too hard for me to accept it when someone says to me that I haven’t accepted him fully yet (like taking the Eucharist)… "

We may as well say, “it is hard for me to accept it when someone says I haven’t accepted Him fully yet (like living with Him in Heaven).”

“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.” (I John 3:2)

He is Infinite. We are not. Of course we must all accept Him fully more and more each day. I did not mean to imply you are lacking in love or comittment to Christ, I simply meant that we all have to pick up our crosses and follow him daily, which means as long as we are here and now, we have more to learn and more to become with His grace.

I am convinced that the Catholic Church has everything possible to help me in my journey to know, to love and to Live Christ better. I have been changed, but I have not been perfected. I have infinite room for improvement, and if He says that partaking of His body, blood, soul and divinity (that is, His human and divine natures in One Person) gives me His Life, then I am there. We all should be.

All my best . . .
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… you are trying your best to help but seriously, the eucharist is just not needed, it’s not an essential, is it? Tell me this; do you believe that you will not recieve christ and indeed go to hell for not taking the Eucharist?
 
Zundrah,

No I do not believe that. I believe there is more to receive than just hope. I believe there is strength to be had here and now. We do not have to wonder if God hears us, or is really with us. He is there in th Eucharist because He said so, not because it makes “good sense” to me.

I believe that many non-Christians will be in Heaven. God’s grace is not bound to the Catholic Church, but it is promised by Christ. Here and now.

All my best. . .
 
Convert66 said:
Zundrah,

No I do not believe that. I believe there is more to receive than just hope. I believe there is strength to be had here and now. We do not have to wonder if God hears us, or is really with us. He is there in th Eucharist because He said so, not because it makes “good sense” to me.

I believe that many non-Christians will be in Heaven. God’s grace is not bound to the Catholic Church, but it is promised by Christ. Here and now.

All my best. . .
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So then you confess that the Eucharist is not needed then?
 
Zundrah said:
I can’t seem to understand what your church teaches about it. It was only a metaphore!
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The belief that we actually receive Christs body and blood at Communion is central to
Catholic belief. Without this belief we would have no Catholic Church. We would be as any Protestant denomination whose members believe the bread and wine consumed at Mass are only bread and wine. If you do not believe this tenet of the Catholic Church, don’t consider joining. With Catholics what is, is especially if it is a teaching that is a pillar of the Church.

Talk to your priest. Pray to your God. Doubts are fine, we all have them, but heresy is not accepted.
 
Zundrah said:
I can’t seem to understand what your church teaches about it. It was only a metaphore!
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Zundrah said:
Ahhhhhh, you want me to read all of this!? 😦 Oh no, but I just don’t believe in the Eucharist! It is just superstition! Some people even freak when a crumb falls on to the floor, I mean that is just ridiculous! :hypno:
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You ask for Faith which no one can give you. Then you refuse to take time to read about miracles. That does not make sense.
 
Zundrah said:
That is just nonsense!
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I like how you dismiss everything else I wrote and hone in on one thing.
Apparently the people there at the time believed that He was talking about the reality of His flesh and His blood-or there wouldn’t have been any difficulty
Finally it’s not about intellectualizing,reading and studying.Fianlly it is a concept that reaches into your heart or it doesn’t. It really finally about Love. Did Jesus love us to give us this very special gift of his Real Presence in the Eucharist that has been in the Church since it’s inception?
 
elts1956 said:
The belief that we actually receive Christs body and blood at Communion is central to
Catholic belief. Without this belief we would have no Catholic Church. We would be as any Protestant denomination whose members believe the bread and wine consumed at Mass are only bread and wine. If you do not believe this tenet of the Catholic Church, don’t consider joining. With Catholics what is, is especially if it is a teaching that is a pillar of the Church.

Talk to your priest. Pray to your God. Doubts are fine, we all have them, but heresy is not accepted.
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Her God is your God.

🙂
 
Zundrah said:
The funniest thing is this; Christ handed out bread and said “this is my body”, but your catholic church hands out unleavened…
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It was the time of the Passover. The bread was unleavened.
 
juliamajor said:
I like how you dismiss everything else I wrote and hone in on one thing.
Apparently the people there at the time believed that He was talking about the reality of His flesh and His blood-or there wouldn’t have been any difficulty
Finally it’s not about intellectualizing,reading and studying.Fianlly it is a concept that reaches into your heart or it doesn’t. It really finally about Love. Did Jesus love us to give us this very special gift of his Real Presence in the Eucharist that has been in the Church since it’s inception?
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His gift was his death for our sins, not the eucharist! :rolleyes:
 
Zundrah said:
The funniest thing is this; Christ handed out bread and said “this is my body”, but your catholic church hands out unleavened…
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Zundrah said:
Are you sure? Why doesn’t the bible actually say this then?
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Again, it was Passover. The bread was unleavened. Although the Bible is truth, you won’t find ALL truths there.
 
Zundrah said:
His gift was his death for our sins, not the eucharist! :rolleyes:
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Please watch the videos I posted. You seem so lost, andthe videos will help. Try it.

By the way, it’s Eucharist with a capital E.
 
elts1956 said:
Then you refuse to take time to read about miracles. That does not make sense.
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The truth be told; I have read about a million different writings about the eucharist…
You ask for Faith which no one can give you.
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Only christ can give me faith and living water, not a wafer and some wine…
 
coolduude said:
Please watch the videos I posted. You seem so lost, andthe videos will help. Try it.

By the way, it’s Eucharist with a capital E.
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I spelt it without a captital E on purpose… didn’t you realise that?
 
Zundrah said:
Ahhhhhh, you want me to read all of this!? 😦 Oh no, but I just don’t believe in the Eucharist! It is just superstition! Some people even freak when a crumb falls on to the floor, I mean that is just ridiculous! :hypno:
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please do read it 🙂 you’ll see why I’m saying this. It’s pretty much evidence that the Eucharist is true.

I used to not believe in it either… but now when I receive the Eucharist, I see that I am really receiving Jesus… it is Him, physically present.

This is what Christians have always believed for 2000 years. Even the Reformers believed it. It’s a new concept that Communion is a symbol…and it was invented by Zwingli.

Did you know that early Christians were called “cannibals” because of their belief in the Eucharist? and that early Church martyrs died for it?

God bless
 
Jesus said, “for My flesh is REAL food, and My Blood is REAL drink”. (John 6)

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