The GOP's Third Party Option

[petra22]

And while we are waiting for the perfect candidate we get Hillary, unlikable though she may be. I think we have seen this movie before, in 2012.

Let’s give the guy with new ideas a try. He may not be a perfect Christian–just a sinner like the rest of us–but at least he has a different perspective… not just the same old one that hasn’t worked very well in the past…

 

[Peter_J]

Let’s give the guy with new ideas a try.

I do think Cruz will get another try, but not today. For the moment we need to let Clinton-Trump be alone in the spotlight – if only because people won’t be able to get it out of their system otherwise – before the media will be willing to say “Breaking news! We just remembered that the GOP primary is still going on! And 64% of Republicans want someone other than Donald Trump!”

 

[KevinAK]

Trump is the only hope against Hillary. The Republican party needs to put their selfishness aside and recognize that not supporting Trump is supporting Hillary.

Donald Trump is Hillary Clinton’s only hope of becoming President. He needs to put aside his selfishness and realize not supporting Ted Cruz is supporting Hilary.

Or maybe that was his intention all along.

 

[GNM1999]

Donald Trump is Hillary Clinton’s only hope of becoming President. He needs to put aside his selfishness and realize not supporting Ted Cruz is supporting Hilary.

Or maybe that was his intention all along.

Doubt it, but nice try, though.

Uniting behind Trump is the only chance to stop Hillary from getting into Office. Would you rather have someone you’re unsure of being pro-life (and everything he’s said points to the fact he is pro-life, and I can only find one or two things that even mildly suggest he was somewhat pro-choice in his younger years) versus someone who is guaranteed pro-choice, anti-gun, treasonous against her country (Hillary).

Sorry, but not nominating Trump is guaranteeing Hillary a seat in the Oval Office.

Maybe you’d like that, however.

 

[10gr8kids]

Let’s give the guy with new ideas a try. He may not be a perfect Christian–just a sinner like the rest of us–but at least he has a different perspective… not just the same old one that hasn’t worked very well in the past…

Why not vote for Cruz, he isn’t a perfect Christian, just a sinner like the rest of us. However he does stand with the pro-life movement. He also is anti-establishment.

 

[GNM1999]

Why not vote for Cruz, he isn’t a perfect Christian, just a sinner like the rest of us. However he does stand with the pro-life movement. He also is anti-establishment.

Trump is also everything you described. But Cruz is not Anti-Establishment, that is one of his “attractions” is that he is for the establishment, and is favored by the establishment-republicans who ran before him.

 

[10gr8kids]

Sorry, but -]not/-] nominating Trump is guaranteeing Hillary a seat in the Oval Office.

 

[Path_Finder]

There were a number of very good candidates that are now out, the most recent is Marco Rubio.

I can’t vote for him. I can’t pretend that he’s prolife. He has no experience as a prolife person. Could he show any financial support of pro-life causes? New York where he lives has a number of pro-life causes.

Yes, we all have our opinions, but I personally think some people may not care for him for other reasons, such as his views on immigration or illegal immigration.

 

[Peter_J]

Doubt it, but nice try, though.

Uniting behind Trump is the only chance to stop Hillary from getting into Office. Would you rather have someone you’re unsure of being pro-life (and everything he’s said points to the fact he is pro-life, and I can only find one or two things that even mildly suggest he was somewhat pro-choice in his younger years) versus someone who is guaranteed pro-choice, anti-gun, treasonous against her country (Hillary).

Sorry, but not nominating Trump is guaranteeing Hillary a seat in the Oval Office.

Maybe you’d like that, however.

This is what I meant by “the (new) Republican orthodoxy”.

 

[10gr8kids]

Trump is also everything you described. But Cruz is not Anti-Establishment, that is one of his “attractions” is that he is for the establishment, and is favored by the establishment-republicans who ran before him.

Over Trump, because like me, they see how bad Trump will be. They sure didn’t want him over Bush or Rubio. They probably would prefer just about any of the candidates that ran over Cruz other than DT.

If you hadn’t noticed that, you must not have been paying attention.

You might buy DT is pro-life, but he’ll have to prove it to me before I buy it. You don’t give money to the clintons, Pelosi, and a host of other pro-choice politicians if you truly care about the unborn. As someone else said, let him show us how much money he’s given to the pro-life movement.

Where you put your money is where your heart is.

 

[10gr8kids]

Yes, we all have our opinions, but I personally think some people may not care for him for other reasons, such as his views on immigration or illegal immigration.

Not unlike people who vote for the democrats, other issues over the life of babies.

 

[GNM1999]

He’s also given to Reagan, the Bushes, Obama, et cetera. He’s a business man. There is (and has been) strategy to supporting candidates for office, regardless of their political views. He understands the sway you can have in someone’s campaign because you give money to them, which is why he isn’t taking money from anyone other than himself and supporter donations.

Where you put your money is where your heart is.

I suppose you favor drone strikes against civilians and waterboarding, since your tax dollars go to fund those things. Keeping drones in the air and paying the salaries of the soldiers at Gitmo.

 

[10gr8kids]

I suppose you favor drone strikes against civilians and waterboarding, since your tax dollars go to fund those things. Keeping drones in the air and paying the salaries of the soldiers at Gitmo.

Which candidate has said to bring back waterboarding and target families of terrorists?

 

[10gr8kids]

He’s also given to Reagan, the Bushes, Obama, et cetera. He’s a business man. There is (and has been) strategy to supporting candidates for office, regardless of their political views. He understands the sway you can have in someone’s campaign because you give money to them, which is why he isn’t taking money from anyone other than himself and supporter donations.

Did he give to Reagan and the Bushes because of their pro-life stance: did he give to the Dems because of their pro-choice stance? Either way we can see the life issue is not important to him.

Would you be alright with someone giving money to terrorist so he can negotiate a great oil deal? I suppose you’d say that was ok, because he isn"t supporting the act of terrorism, or, maybe you would correctly realize that by giving them money he is not overly concerned about terrorism.

 

[mary_bobo]

Trump is also everything you described. But Cruz is not Anti-Establishment, that is one of his “attractions” is that he is for the establishment, and is favored by the establishment-republicans who ran before him.

I guess what you mean by establishment. Cruz has done much to buck the establishment while a senator, that’s why the establishment, as I understand it to be, do not like him. He is a strict constitutionalist and he was backed by the Tea Party. That is hardly establishment IMO. And no, I did not vote for Cruz.

 

[pnewton]

He has at least one good quality: he is not Hillary or Bernie.

That is a fact about him, not a quality, as in, it is not part of his character. Any third party from the GOP would also not be Hillary Clinton.

 

[stinkcat_14]

He has at least one good quality: he is not Hillary or Bernie. The Democratic Party has transformed itself into the party of abortion, same sex marriage, sexual license, and suppression of religious liberty. One bishop, referring to its unfailing pro-abortion stance, said that it risked becoming “the party of death.” It lost my support with abortion advocacy, and compounded its advocacy of evil by supporting same sex marriage and the HHS mandate.

I think that has been the only good quality of republican candidates in recent elections. We have to remember that a Catholic could not vote for Romney on his own merit, but because only because his opponent was worse on abortion.

 

[GEddie]

Methinks it’s time for the GOP to take a header into the historical record.

They haven’t had an A team since 1984 (a generation ago!) and have lost all the larger states except TX. Their message increasingly attracts mostly blowhards like Trump.

While the country seems to be solidly bipartisan, parties have died and been born in its history, the last being the Whigs in 1852. Maybe after this cycle it will happen again.

ICXC NIKA

 

[Little_Sheep]

There’s this: GOP figures meet to plan a third-party run against Trump

Thank you, Peter. I thought what I had posted was appropriate.

 

[Peter_J]

Thank you, Peter. I thought what I had posted was appropriate.

You’re welcome. I didn’t completely read what you linked to, but I guessed that it was an opinion piece rather than a news article per se.

This is strictly my opinion that others are free to take or leave, but I rather like the threads we have currently. (See what I said 2 weeks ago:

A good speech … and a little more interesting – IMHO anyways – than some of the other news stories about which posters have started threads recently, e.g.

• “Trump dominates with huge turnouts, wide base of support”
• “Melania Trump: I don’t approve of Donald’s language”
• “Jeff Sessions endorses Donald Trump in major blow to Ted Cruz”
• “Donald Trump Wins Nevada Caucuses, Collecting Third Straight Victory”
• “Influential Christian newspaper urges evangelicals to dump ‘misogynist’ Trump”
• “Political science professor forecasts Trump as general election winner”
• “Melania Trump: I followed the law as immigrant”
• “Donald Trump: We’re going to ‘open up’ libel laws”
• “Donald Trump muses about Marco Rubio’s eligibility to run for president”
• “Donald Trump hires Mike Huckabee’s daughter as senior adviser”
• “Donald Trump to Foreign Workers for Florida Club: You’re Hired”

Not that it’s a competition of starting interesting threads, , I’m just sharing my opinion … not to mention anticipating that some Trump supporters are going to say that Romney’s speech isn’t newsworthy or whatever.

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