The importance of physical attraction in a relationship

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On my way:
What if you were attracted to someone physically. She was beautifull but that was it. Would you have a relationship with her? If you answer that you would try and start a relationship with her, then it only will prove that you are shallow, and only care about looks. Looks fade away, no one will be good looking forvever, but what is inside will never change. The better the person is on the inside the better the person is on the outside.
We ought to be careful about setting up a “straw man” in assuming this is what he would do. Let him answer first.
 
On my way:
What if you were attracted to someone physically. She was beautifull but that was it. Would you have a relationship with her? If you answer that you would try and start a relationship with her, then it only will prove that you are shallow, and only care about looks. Looks fade away, no one will be good looking forvever, but what is inside will never change. The better the person is on the inside the better the person is on the outside.
No I would not have a relationship with a girl like that. I would have a hard time trusting her. I’ve tried that too. I’ve dated several hot girls and I find them useless…
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Wow:mad: Maybe you should start weight lifting:mad:
I do lift weights.
 
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kage_ar:
One should only “date” a person you intend to marry - as you can see, dating someone with no intention of marriage is unkind at best and deceitful at worst.

Be friends, do things with groups of people. When you are mature enough to consider marriage, then, begin praying for God to direct your search. When you know someone and you feel that they are someone you would marry, then - ask them for a date. Marriage is a vocation, dating is preparation for that vocation - not just some kind of recreation… as you can see, people do get hurt by “casual dating”.
don’t you have to date someone in order to find out if they are marriage material?
 
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kev7:
I did not allow them to get close to me they did it anyway and that is what made them cry. Sometimes I’m too nice or friendly to them and they take it the wrong way. These women do things for me that no other women in my life have and they are always saying that I am a good man . That is what hurts me the most… it is only the fat girls who I don’t find attractive that are that great. It is very difficult to be honest with them.
This sort of thing happened to me back in college. Our church group was going on a weekend retreat and this girl, who was grossly overweight for her height (maybe 5 feet tall at most, and I am guessing close to 300 pounds), did not have a ride. I wanted to do the right thing, so I offered her a ride. Next thing I know, she’s latched on to me and won’t give me a moment of peace. She wanted to sit beside me at all the meals, at all the Bible study sessions, and hang out with me during free time. When I realized what was going on, I kind of freaked out and had to go back home early just to get away from her and regain some peace of mind. That wasn’t a right or wrong decision for me, that was a reflex – I had to get out of there. She had been very clingy like that ever since (this would have been about 10 years ago). She was probably about 21 or so at the time – sadly, she died at the age of 25 due to heart failure. I have no doubt the weight was a significant contributing factor there.

I also had the same problem with a really skinny girl around that same time. I don’t know what her deal was, but she tried to get close to me by doing the things I did, which back then were weight-lifting and piano playing primarily. The turnoff there was the fact that she became sycophantish in her behavior, complimenting me well beyond what I could actually do. She also didn’t strike me as very bright, and it felt like being with a long-forgotten aunt who loved me but didn’t realize I had grown up since she last saw me in kingergarten. (She majored in education, I’m pretty sure.) I got freaked out by her too and didn’t hang around anymore.

Kev, I don’t think you’re guilty of doing anything wrong – at worst, you acted on a theory in good faith and hurt somebody’s feelings without meaning to. That’s not an unusual occurence at all; just ask my wife! I just wish I had the guts (no pun intended) to just tell the truth to the girl the way you did.
 
She died at 25:crying: At least she will find out what Love is now.:crying: After reading this thread I understand why Anorexia is so pervasive:crying: So sad, I heard Terri described like a monster in other forums bacause she was disabled.Obese people apparently are also not welcome or worthy of Love in this world:crying:
 
I must admit, I din’t read all the way through, but I’ve found that once I learn that a girl has the qualities that are most important to me, she immediately becomes extremely physically attractive in my eyes. :love:

It works the other way too. Some girl everyone thinks is hot, but does not have those qualities, in my eyes because becomes quite physically unattractive to me.

Kind of weird how that works–I’m like that movie Shallow Hal:D
 
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Genesis315:
I must admit, I din’t read all the way through, but I’ve found that once I learn that a girl has the qualities that are most important to me, she immediately becomes extremely physically attractive in my eyes. :love:

It works the other way too. Some girl everyone thinks is hot, but does not have those qualities, in my eyes because becomes quite physically unattractive to me.

Kind of weird how that works–I’m like that movie Shallow Hal:D
You are attracted to the soul,the heart:bowdown2: You do not see whether the shell is fat or skinny:bowdown: You see the person in their true light:bowdown2:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
She died at 25:crying: At least she will find out what Love is now.:crying: After reading this thread I understand why Anorexia is so pervasive:crying: So sad, I heard Terri described like a monster in other forums bacause she was disabled.Obese people apparently are also not welcome or worthy of Love in this world:crying:
Hang on, there. I don’t think that’s what Psychemusic is saying. I believe the point of his anecdote is that he can relate to what kev7 went through.

I’ve had the same problem with guys (before I was married), not necessarily obese guys, just ones I didn’t find attractive. They can be clingy and monopolizing of one’s time. It has nothing to do with a lack of love for all humans; it has everything to do with the way some people latch on to anyone who will show them kindness, believing the kindness is a sign of romantic interest. This often accompanies low self-esteem, which is probably why it is seen more often than not in people with weight problems.

I don’t think anyone here is saying that obese people are unlovable, only that obesity makes a person physically unattractive (which is redundant, in my opinion).
 
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kev7:
Hi,

Does God want you to be physically attracted to a person for marriage?

I know that most people would simply answer that question with No, but let me explain why it isn’t that simple.

Lets say you met a woman who was very fat but had a heart of gold and would do anything for you. Is it wrong to reject her if you find her attractive personality wise but not physically.

I know for a fact that I would have a very hard time starting a relationship with a woman who I was not physically attracted to. I would always feel bad inside and it would always feel as if I’m not being truthfull to her.

Would God not want you to feel attracted to that person in everyway?
I really feel some people are being way to harsh with you on this.

There is nothing wrong IMO with not wanting to start/pursue a relationship with someone because of the fact that you aren’t attracted physically to her. Anyone who doesn’t admit that physical attraction is an important part of wanting to start pursuing someone might not be being real honest/or thinking it through totally. As someone else already stated, it isn’t as important once you’ve established that relationship and have developed unconditional love for them. This is why people are generally at their prime attractiveness in their younger years. The physical attraction has to come first, other wise what you are pursuing is called a friendship.

You have to be honest with yourself and I personally think it was good that you were honest with her also. As long as your tactful and loving about it. You are probably helping her, as it sounds as if you do have a good, trusting relationship with each other. She will probably trust in your words and any advice. You can’t feel responsible for her developing feelings for you.

God bless you.
 
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Hang on, there. I don’t think that’s what Psychemusic is saying. I believe the point of his anecdote is that he can relate to what kev7 went through.

I’ve had the same problem with guys (before I was married), not necessarily obese guys, just ones I didn’t find attractive. They can be clingy and monopolizing of one’s time. It has nothing to do with a lack of love for all humans; it has everything to do with the way some people latch on to anyone who will show them kindness, believing the kindness is a sign of romantic interest. This often accompanies low self-esteem, which is probably why it is seen more often than not in people with weight problems.

I don’t think anyone here is saying that obese people are unlovable, only that obesity makes a person physically unattractive (which is redundant, in my opinion).
The descriptions of these people are horrible,come on anyone would suffer low self esteem if they felt like unloveable creatures.I bet the suicide rate is high too.I mean listen this is what I am talking about,you say they aren’t unloveable but then say obesity makes them physically unattractive,and the premise of the thread is how important being physically attracted is.
 
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CarolAnnSFO:
But why oh why does “physical attraction” always have to mean “looks like a movie star”?
I don’t think that’s the case at all. I find women of all shapes, sizes, colors, etc. to be attractive. I don’t think a women needs to look like a movie star to be attractive at all. In fact, there are quite a few movie stars who I think are unattractive. It’s amazing what a great personality can do for a person who is physically “lacking”.
 
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tkdnick:
I don’t think that’s the case at all. I find women of all shapes, sizes, colors, etc. to be attractive. I don’t think a women needs to look like a movie star to be attractive at all. In fact, there are quite a few movie stars who I think are unattractive. It’s amazing what a great personality can do for a person who is physically “lacking”.
Good points, but if that wonderful personality lies behind a not-so-attractive face, will that woman ever even have the opportunity to show her personality?

How many woman with warm hearts and great personalities are never even given a chance, because they don’t have pretty faces or slim bodies?

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Lisa4Catholics:
You are attracted to the soul,the heart:bowdown2: You do not see whether the shell is fat or skinny:bowdown: You see the person in their true light:bowdown2:
Yep, and that was my excuse the time I didn’t notice that my girlfriend straightened her hair:p.

Seriously though, I think its more of a blessing than anything I have control over.

I think most guys who don’t make women sex objects will agree that it makes us happy when our lady feels comfortable with herself around us. I remember when I first started seeing my gf and at the end of the school year she kind of joked that she would need to get a gym membership over the summer because I had caused her to put on weight (:rolleyes:) . She said that when she was with me, for the first time she felt like she didn’t have to worry about stuff like that. I’m telling , you that made me fell like a million bucks:dancing: . I don’t think I’m alone in thinking this way either.👍
 
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Genesis315:
Yep, and that was my excuse the time I didn’t notice that my girlfriend straightened her hair:p.

Seriously though, I think its more of a blessing than anything I have control over.

I think most guys who don’t make women sex objects will agree that it makes us happy when our lady feels comfortable with herself around us. I remember when I first started seeing my gf and at the end of the school year she kind of joked that she would need to get a gym membership over the summer because I had caused her to put on weight (:rolleyes:) . She said that when she was with me, for the first time she felt like she didn’t have to worry about stuff like that. I’m telling , you that made me fell like a million bucks:dancing: . I don’t think I’m alone in thinking this way either.👍
Wow:bowdown: Genesis:bowdown2: You want to know a secret,with you giving her that secure love she will probably never starve herself nor use food to fill the void:thumbsup: :bowdown2: You have made the point I have been trying to make the whole time.
 
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Genesis315:
I must admit, I din’t read all the way through, but I’ve found that once I learn that a girl has the qualities that are most important to me, she immediately becomes extremely physically attractive in my eyes. :love:

It works the other way too. Some girl everyone thinks is hot, but does not have those qualities, in my eyes because becomes quite physically unattractive to me.

Kind of weird how that works–I’m like that movie Shallow Hal:D
The same thing happened to me. WHen I met my hubby, it was his tall, blonde friend that I was attracted to. I hate to admit this, but I didn’t find my future hubby attractive at all. He was tall and skinny with a large nose and tight curly hair. Not my type at all. It was my hubby though who proved to be a gentleman. The more I talked to him, the better looking he got. I am so very lucky that I overcame my initial shallowness.
 
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kev7:
Hi,

Does God want you to be physically attracted to a person for marriage?
I would say this is the fundamental question, and my response would be, absolutely God intended for physical attraction to be there. I don’t think anybody could deny that God created men to have a strong physical attraction to female beauty. Biology confirms this. Certainly few men need to be convinced of this, since we experience this as a fact of life. This is consistent with God’s first command to Adam and Eve, which was to “be fertile and multiply”; I doubt God would have made that a burden to Adam by giving him a wife he was not physically attracted to. God said, after all, that his creation “was very good” after looking at it! If you’re still not convinced, read the 4th chapter of the Song of Songs (as somebody else mentioned), and if even that doesn’t convince you, I don’t know what will.

I do think, however, you have to be careful when you are around other girls who have more than a few extra pounds they aren’t proud of. I was naive enough one time to ask a few friends of mine (who were in that general category) the name of a girl I saw from church, and they got disgusted over my excitement because they thought I was excited only because she was good-looking (not taking into account that I thought she seemed also to be a very committed Christian, from what I could observe at a distance). They kind of berated me with the inner beauty arguments we’ve already seen on this thread, so I dropped the subject with them, which is just as well.

Of course, to these same girls I raved even more when I met the (far more attractive, inside and out) woman I eventually married! I guess they figured I was beyond listening, but I think it’s simply because God created physical attraction to be a natural part of selecting a mate. However, I would be quick to agree with those people who pointed out that physical beauty is merely a part of initial attraction. You can’t build on it, but it’s mighty hard to get started without it.

On the flip side of the coin, physical beauty can come across as ugliness to a man over time if the spirit inside her is ugly.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
The descriptions of these people are horrible,come on anyone would suffer low self esteem if they felt like unloveable creatures.I bet the suicide rate is high too.I mean listen this is what I am talking about,you say they aren’t unloveable but then say obesity makes them physically unattractive,and the premise of the thread is how important being physically attracted is.
So I guess what you’re saying then is that you are unloveable if you are physically unattractive? Are you saying that it is inconsistent to say on the one hand that an obese person is not unloveable, and on the other hand, an obese person is not physically attractive? Must I then be physically attracted to everybody that I love?
 
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psychemusic:
This is consistent with God’s first command to Adam and Eve, which was to “be fertile and multiply”; I doubt God would have made that a burden to Adam by giving him a wife he was not physically attracted to. God said, after all, that his creation “was very good” after looking at it!
It was all good and beautiful to God, but apparently some of us just don’t measure up to human standards – either I’m supposed to believe that God intended “Be fertile and multiply” only to apply to some of His children, or that our current standards of physical attractiveness are not from God. I prefer to believe the latter.

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