The King of Anti-Catholic Whoppers

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Scoop49 said:
Your Roman Catholic crucifiers reminds me of a story in an evangelical paper published in Vancouver which illustrated an article on the Crusades with picture captioned something like “Roman Catholic crusader looting Jerusalem.”
Its far closer to the truth than your example but conveys a falsehood: during the Middle Ages such a designation had no meaning. There were no Protestants and Catholics, just Christians.(Some) Protestants like to distance themselves from the Crusades, as if the Muslim were a just a type of Unitarian. Of course, there is at other whopper, that Protestantism is a direct lineal descendant of the Early Church that went underground until Luther, Hus, Tyndale et al.
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That is a great point-it never occured to me!
 
The Trail of Blood is one reason why I never will join certain protestant denominations. I hate when lying becomes a SOP.
 
Won’t all the Catholic haters be surprised when Jesus returns as King and re-establishes the rightful place of His Church? I wonder if they will be able to accept the truth then?
 
Those who are against Catholics will find any way possible to mis-quote anything they read or hear.
A few years ago I painted a Bible verse on plaster for a friend who was sick and in the hospital. It was her favorite verse (unfortunately, I don’t remember the verse now). Anyway, another woman, also a friend of both of us, saw what I was doing and said the woman in the hospital wouldn’t like it because the verse was from the Catholic Bible. The verse was the same in both the Catholic and non-Catholic Bible’s, so I don’t know why she made such a fuss!!! … It just goes to show the ‘mentality’ of some non-Catholics. :eek:
 
With regard to the Protestant mantra against the Catholic Church–“that’s not biblical”, I have found that Protestants don’t even know what the Bible says. One lady was telling me she doesn’t need a priest to confess her sins. She goes directly to God. I said, if that is so, why did Jesus breathe on the Apostles and give them the power to forgive or retain sins? She insisted that that was not in the Bible. When I emailed her the verse, John 20, 23 I believe, I never heard another word about it. I can’t think of a single Catholic doctrine that does not have some provision in the Bible. Protestants just disregard or overlook any verse that conflicts with their theology.
 
CAJ62 said:
Those who are against Catholics will find any way possible to mis-quote anything they read or hear.
A few years ago I painted a Bible verse on plaster for a friend who was sick and in the hospital. It was her favorite verse (unfortunately, I don’t remember the verse now). Anyway, another woman, also a friend of both of us, saw what I was doing and said the woman in the hospital wouldn’t like it because the verse was from the Catholic Bible. The verse was the same in both the Catholic and non-Catholic Bible’s, so I don’t know why she made such a fuss!!! … It just goes to show the ‘mentality’ of some non-Catholics. :eek:
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I work in a Catholic Bookstore and from time to time we have Protestants come in and browse around. One couple came in, and it was apparent that they were Protestant. The gentleman told me he was “looking for a Bible verse.” I had to coax the verse out of him, and I finally located the verse in Hebrews for him. He insisted it was supposed to be in Isaiah. I showed him the verse, he read it and said “yes, that’s it.” I showed him it was in Hebrews, and he again insisted it was in Isaiah. At that point his wife nudged him and said softly “Honey, they’re Catholic. They have a different Bible.” and they left the store.
 
Andy_Corder said:
I work in a Catholic Bookstore and from time to time we have Protestants come in and browse around. One couple came in, and it was apparent that they were Protestant. The gentleman told me he was “looking for a Bible verse.” I had to coax the verse out of him, and I finally located the verse in Hebrews for him. He insisted it was supposed to be in Isaiah. I showed him the verse, he read it and said “yes, that’s it.” I showed him it was in Hebrews, and he again insisted it was in Isaiah. At that point his wife nudged him and said softly “Honey, they’re Catholic. They have a different Bible.” and they left the store.
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Do you recall the verse? Hebrews does draw on Isaiah.
 
True, Hebrews does reflect Isaiah, and I do not remember the exact verse now. I used a Bible software program to search the text though and after finding the verse, checked for references to other books in the Bible. This particular verse stood alone. I even offered to demonstrate the search for the gentleman and his wife. No takers though.
 
Andy_Corder said:
True, Hebrews does reflect Isaiah, and I do not remember the exact verse now. I used a Bible software program to search the text though and after finding the verse, checked for references to other books in the Bible. This particular verse stood alone. I even offered to demonstrate the search for the gentleman and his wife. No takers though.
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Hmm…

This post brings to mind a question. We all know about the deutero-canonical books, and most know that Ester and Daniel are slightly different between the Protestant and Catholic canon of scripture.

But what other actual textual (not related to translations) differences are there between the two Bibles?

However, this is off topic. I think I will start a new thread so as not to derail this one.
 
rpp said:
Hmm…

This post brings to mind a question. We all know about the deutero-canonical books, and most know that Ester and Daniel are slightly different between the Protestant and Catholic canon of scripture.

But what other actual textual (not related to translations) differences are there between the two Bibles?

However, this is off topic. I think I will start a new thread so as not to derail this one.
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This is the thread I started if anyone is interested.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=249266
 
I’m not surprised by any of this any more – not after I heard that it was the Catholics who tortured the early Christians and had them fed to the lions.
 
Caveman said:
In a discussion I had awhile back with an ardent non- (and anti) Catholic, this individual was getting frustrated due to my irritating bad habit of pointing to Sacred Scriptures to refute her litany of… well, when you get right down to it… outright lies leveled against The Church.

You know, the usual nonsense they throw at us; we worship Mary and the Saints; there’s no Scriptural basis for Sacramental Confession; the Eucharist is merely symbolic, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

But like I said, her arguments were simplistic and easily dissectable. In her growing frustration she grasped at her final straw; **“Well, you Catholics are the ones who crucified Jesus!” **When I asked her to explain her rather desperate claim, her reasoning was such; “Jesus was crucified by Roman soldiers… and you’re Roman Catholics!”

Of course, I just had to ask her who taught her that. And… sigh… of course, it was her Fundamentalist preacher. Sad, isn’t it?
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:clapping: :rotfl: :rotfl: Thanks for the laugh o’ the day!
 
Andy_Corder said:
I picked up the Boettner book “Roman Catholicism” right after I converted to the faith from, of all places, a Catholic book store. After looking at the first few pages I called them and asked if they had ever reviewed the book (they had not), told them what it was and they pulled it from their shelves. I still have it.

Boettner’s book is still quoted by many anti-Catholics, and I have found being familiar with it very very helpful from time to time when engaging an anti-Catholic in a “discussion” on the Catholic faith and Church.
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A good friend --young Pentecostal pastor – gave me Boettner’s book when I came into the Church. This guy is NOT anti-Catholic, so I asked him WHY he gave that book to me, and he said, “I wanted you to know what people think of you!”

My big mistake was putting it out in the trash. Dang! I wish I still had it!
 
rwoehmke said:
How about the non-denom preacher in my town who told my wife and daughter that in all of history only eleven Jews made it into heaven. The twelve apostles less Judas. David, Moses, Abraham, etc. were all lost cause they did not know Jesus. I expect he forgot that Jesus was a Jew. I would imagine he would rank Catholics as non-Christians as well, but that never came up. 🤷
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Oh, cool! I need this guy’s phone number because I want to ask his crystal ball if I’m going to heaven.

:rolleyes:
 
Olivermax said:
With regard to the Protestant mantra against the Catholic Church–“that’s not biblical”, I have found that Protestants don’t even know what the Bible says. One lady was telling me she doesn’t need a priest to confess her sins. She goes directly to God. I said, if that is so, why did Jesus breathe on the Apostles and give them the power to forgive or retain sins? She insisted that that was not in the Bible. When I emailed her the verse, John 20, 23 I believe, I never heard another word about it. I can’t think of a single Catholic doctrine that does not have some provision in the Bible. Protestants just disregard or overlook any verse that conflicts with their theology.
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Ah, that’s because you just don’t know what John 20:20-23 REALLY means. Don’t you know that it means that the Apostles were given the power to proclaim that Jesus had died for their sins?

Sheesh! You Catholics just believe stuff because the Church tells you to! What would you ever do if you actually read the Bible for yourself! Oh. I forgot. You’re not allowed to read the Bible. 😛
 
I’ve got a couple for y’all.

10 years ago …
S-i-L’s sister:
“Did you know that the Pope has a tunnel from the Vatican to Africa so he can escape if he needs to” … in a tone of ‘see what those no-good, scheming Catholics are doing’
I didn’t mean to laugh, but come oooonnn.

2 weeks ago …
Quote from S-i-L:
“Did you know that Catholics and Muslims have a lot of rituals in common?”

I think she doesn’t realize how anti-Catholic her church is with quotes like these just thrown out there and believed with no proof or details.

My response: “Like what?”
S-i-L: “There are many.”
My response: “Like what?”
S-i-L: “There are lots of them.”
My response: “Like what?”

I was having trouble getting anything from her.
S-i-L: “Like incense”
My response: “Oh? Well we can read about incense in the old testament and the new”
I talked about both then asked…
“Well how do muslims use incense?”
S-i-L: “I don’t know”
I asked: “How do Catholics use incense?”
S-i-L: “I don’t know”

Thankfully, the conversation was not combative.
This was actually the first time she and I have talked about ‘things’ in over ten years, so I am grateful to God for it.
This conversation will hopefully open more dialog and has already, I think, started a long overdue healing between us.

After I got home, I sent her Karl’s “Catholicism and Fundamentalism” and Scott Hahn’s conversion CD … and a three page letter.

Pray for us!!

michel
 
To Olivermax I would, as a Catholic, completely agree that Christ did indeed give the Apostles the power to forgive / retain sins, but that does not mean you cannot go direct to Christ who died for us on the Cross and rose again, for reasons I have fully gone into on another thread.

Having said that, this does not detract from the value or efficacy of auricular confesion as it has developed in the Church and I know exactly what he’s getting at.

There is no doubt whatever that many, many deluded, anti-catholics, of whatever persuasion, Protestant, Muslim etc have as item number one on the agenda, the intention of bringing down catholicism, and they simply can’t. Not by reference to Sacred Scripture or Tradition, nor by any other means, which is why they themselves splinter into a myriad of different faiths, sects etc. Matthew 16 v 17, "And I say unto you that you are Peter (the rock) and upon this rock I will build My Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

God bless

JTG’S
 
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