The King of Anti-Catholic Whoppers

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In a discussion I had awhile back with an ardent non- (and anti) Catholic, this individual was getting frustrated due to my irritating bad habit of pointing to Sacred Scriptures to refute her litany of… well, when you get right down to it… outright lies leveled against The Church.

You know, the usual nonsense they throw at us; we worship Mary and the Saints; there’s no Scriptural basis for Sacramental Confession; the Eucharist is merely symbolic, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

But like I said, her arguments were simplistic and easily dissectable. In her growing frustration she grasped at her final straw; **“Well, you Catholics are the ones who crucified Jesus!” **When I asked her to explain her rather desperate claim, her reasoning was such; “Jesus was crucified by Roman soldiers… and you’re Roman Catholics!”

Of course, I just had to ask her who taught her that. And… sigh… of course, it was her Fundamentalist preacher. Sad, isn’t it?
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LJN21 said:
And I thought this was going to be about Jack Chick 😉

Thats pretty funny never heard that one before.
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Me either. Ah, yes. Jack Chick…“The Death Cookie”.😃
 
Caveman said:
In a discussion I had awhile back with an ardent non- (and anti) Catholic, this individual was getting frustrated due to my irritating bad habit of pointing to Sacred Scriptures to refute her litany of… well, when you get right down to it… outright lies leveled against The Church.

You know, the usual nonsense they throw at us; we worship Mary and the Saints; there’s no Scriptural basis for Sacramental Confession; the Eucharist is merely symbolic, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

But like I said, her arguments were simplistic and easily dissectable. In her growing frustration she grasped at her final straw; **“Well, you Catholics are the ones who crucified Jesus!” **When I asked her to explain her rather desperate claim, her reasoning was such; “Jesus was crucified by Roman soldiers… and you’re Roman Catholics!”

Of course, I just had to ask her who taught her that. And… sigh… of course, it was her Fundamentalist preacher. Sad, isn’t it?
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There’s plenty of bad reasoning to go around 🙂​

I wonder what she thinks of Roman Abramovich:
 
I promised Michael Francis…I would be good, so I am going to “refrain” from commenting on the OP’s post… 😃 😃 😃
 
I’d heard this one before, but the reason I was given was because we put Him on the Crucifix instead of having an empty cross.
 
RobHom said:
I promised Michael Francis…I would be good, so I am going to “refrain” from commenting on the OP’s post… 😃 😃 😃
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My Daddy always said, :“If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.”
 
Caveman said:
In a discussion I had awhile back with an ardent non- (and anti) Catholic, this individual was getting frustrated due to my irritating bad habit of pointing to Sacred Scriptures to refute her litany of… well, when you get right down to it… outright lies leveled against The Church.

You know, the usual nonsense they throw at us; we worship Mary and the Saints; there’s no Scriptural basis for Sacramental Confession; the Eucharist is merely symbolic, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

But like I said, her arguments were simplistic and easily dissectable. In her growing frustration she grasped at her final straw; **“Well, you Catholics are the ones who crucified Jesus!” **When I asked her to explain her rather desperate claim, her reasoning was such; “Jesus was crucified by Roman soldiers… and you’re Roman Catholics!”

Of course, I just had to ask her who taught her that. And… sigh… of course, it was her Fundamentalist preacher. Sad, isn’t it?
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Remember, too, that Satan and his angels roam throughout the world, seeking the ruin of souls. His is the father of liars and his work is confusion. But we have the best weapon against him: Prayer and penance.
 
NPC said:
The book you are referring to was authored by Loraine Boettner - published in 1962. I haven’t read it either, but in his book Catholicism and Fundamentalism, Karl Keating shows just how skewed Boettner’s views on the Catholic Church really are. It seems that Roman Catholicism is authored by a master of deception because, while Boettner claims that he has researched such and such a Catholic belief, he actually only gives half the story - the part which suits his own fundamentalist views - then he goes no further.
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I picked up the Boettner book “Roman Catholicism” right after I converted to the faith from, of all places, a Catholic book store. After looking at the first few pages I called them and asked if they had ever reviewed the book (they had not), told them what it was and they pulled it from their shelves. I still have it.

Boettner’s book is still quoted by many anti-Catholics, and I have found being familiar with it very very helpful from time to time when engaging an anti-Catholic in a “discussion” on the Catholic faith and Church.
 
Christy_Beth said:
That’s one thing that really bugs me. The “misinformation” among catholics. Most people know only a tiny bit about their faith. And don’t seem to care about it. Apathy and indifference. I find that real sad. 😦
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This thread reminds me of an experience I had when I was in college talking with a young woman who was Catholic. In our discussion I mentioned the fact that Jesus was a Jew. She became irate at this and yelled at me that Jesus was Catholic. I tried to explain to her the truth… but she could not get her mind around this fact. She continued to insist that Jesus was Catholic, as well as Mary. Misinformation and ignorance is sad.
 
Catholictrain said:
This thread reminds me of an experience I had when I was in college talking with a young woman who was Catholic. In our discussion I mentioned the fact that Jesus was a Jew. She became irate at this and yelled at me that Jesus was Catholic. I tried to explain to her the truth… but she could not get her mind around this fact. She continued to insist that Jesus was Catholic, as well as Mary. Misinformation and ignorance is sad.
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I was engaged in a discussion with a Baptist (who was trying desparately to save my soul) and stated that Jesus died as a Jew, not a Christian. He lost it. Could not handle that statment at all. He became extremely irate and broke off the discussion.
 
Yikes! The Calumniators for Jesus are at it again.

Preachers railing on Catholics all the time is counterproductive. My parish is over half converts, quite a few of whom heard this stuff from their preachers and then it piqued their curiosity…they wanted to learn more about the Catholic faith from the Catholic point of view to be fair-minded. Then they ended up converting. 😃
 
Yikes! The Calumniators for Jesus are at it again.

Preachers railing on Catholics all the time is counterproductive. My parish is over half converts, quite a few of whom heard this stuff from their preachers and then it piqued their curiosity…they wanted to learn more about the Catholic faith from the Catholic point of view to be fair-minded. Then they ended up converting. 😃
 
Linda_Marie said:
I’d heard this one before, but the reason I was given was because we put Him on the Crucifix instead of having an empty cross.
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I was once told that the reason we have Christ’s body on the cross is becuase we dont beleive in the ressurection.
 
Andy_Corder said:
I picked up the Boettner book “Roman Catholicism” right after I converted to the faith from, of all places, a Catholic book store. After looking at the first few pages I called them and asked if they had ever reviewed the book (they had not), told them what it was and they pulled it from their shelves. I still have it.

Boettner’s book is still quoted by many anti-Catholics, and I have found being familiar with it very very helpful from time to time when engaging an anti-Catholic in a “discussion” on the Catholic faith and Church.
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His infamous list is posted to CAF several times a year by seperated bretheren anxious to show us the errors of our ways. Most are suprised we have heard of it and even more supriesed how easily we refute it.
 
Christy_Beth said:
That’s one thing that really bugs me. The “misinformation” among catholics. Most people know only a tiny bit about their faith. And don’t seem to care about it. Apathy and indifference. I find that real sad. 😦
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Yes; they are also putting their souls in danger. It is up to us in the pews to help them by knowing our faith and reaching out in evangelizing our own.

Check out Lighthouse Catholic Media.
lighthousecatholicmedia.com/
Get some of their CD’s & pass them out! Talk with your pastor about gettting a rack & display in church, or wherever people will be likely to see and take them. They are wonderful!

God bless,
Mimi
 
estesbob said:
I was once told that the reason we have Christ’s body on the cross is becuase we dont beleive in the ressurection.
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This is exactly what I was taught when I was a Protestant. I went through a training program designed specifically to target and convert Catholic youth. This was one of the points we were trained to bring up as “proof that the Catholic Church doesn’t believe in the resurrection of Jesus.”

The sad part is that is was fairly effective.
 
Ask around and you will hear from someone that the casket in Catholic funerals is only up front if the deceased contributed generously to the parish. Those who were either poor or selfish remained in the back. This continues to this day! I guess no one thinks that Catholic funerals are open to all.

Christ’s peace.
 
My roommate thinks that the Pope helped out with the Holocaust. How’s that for a whopper? :o (I mean the Pope back then of course, not B16)
 
Your Roman Catholic crucifiers reminds me of a story in an evangelical paper published in Vancouver which illustrated an article on the Crusades with picture captioned something like “Roman Catholic crusader looting Jerusalem.”
Its far closer to the truth than your example but conveys a falsehood: during the Middle Ages such a designation had no meaning. There were no Protestants and Catholics, just Christians.(Some) Protestants like to distance themselves from the Crusades, as if the Muslim were a just a type of Unitarian. Of course, there is at other whopper, that Protestantism is a direct lineal descendant of the Early Church that went underground until Luther, Hus, Tyndale et al.
 
Sounds like a George Carlin one-liner “…well, you ARE ROMAN catholics!” 😃

Eternal rest grant unto to him O Lord and may he rest in peace.

Peace,

Gail
 
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