The new Coronovirus, Covid-19 and its spread globally

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I mean globally, not just regionally, there is a big shortage of what is required for a test = test kit. Some countries are doing blood tests instead of swabs

Here is one link

www.bbc.com

Coronavirus: White House concedes US lacks enough test kits

New York urges the government to send more test kits as the city's caseload doubles overnight.
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and one more current


This is a global problem atm.
 
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tafan2 said:
Well, that’s a couple months too late. Regardless of the history, your original claim:
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Sure, and if we had just nuked Wuhan, the whole thing could have been prevented 😉

You haven’t justified we are not taking same actions as Korea, in a timely manner.
All you are doing is nitpicking we are doing less tests than Korea, who was hit earlier and harder.

I explained we are behind Korea due to Obama era regulations and you haven’t touched it. Come back to reality and address the real facts.
 
OurLadyofSorrows said:
This is a global problem atm.
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Thank you…this is what I suspected but hadn’t heard confirmed. The manufacturers of the reagents used for the test aren’t meeting demand. It’s disappointing, for sure…but not surprising. It’s kind of like the toilet paper…they can only manufacture a certain amount and get them distributed! Not exactly but I hope you get the point. This will change soon as the reagent manufacturers get ramped up to meet demand. The specimens WILL get tested, they just have to wait their turn.

As more testing does get done, expect the positives to greatly increase…because we will start to know results. So, don’t be surprised to see a bump in numbers of infected as we start to confirm them.

Again, thank you for the links! Much help!
 
Theo520 said:
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tafan2:
Well, that’s a couple months too late. Regardless of the history, your original claim:
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Sure, and if we had just nuked Wuhan, the whole thing could have been prevented 😉

You haven’t justified we are not taking same actions as Korea, in a timely manner.
All you are doing is nitpicking we are doing less tests than Korea, who was hit earlier and harder.

I explained we are behind Korea due to Obama era regulations and you haven’t touched it. Come back to reality and address the real facts.
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A couple of good articles that reinforce your point…

reason.com

How Government Red Tape Stymied Testing and Made the Coronavirus Epidemic Worse

FDA and CDC bureaucrats stopped private and academic diagnostic tests from being deployed.
reason.com reason.com

www.americanthinker.com

Trump's Ultrasonic Whistle Exposes Vermin Infestation

My online friend Jeffrey Satinover compared the president to an ultrasonic whistle
www.americanthinker.com www.americanthinker.com
 
So you are claiming we are not behind South Korea or we are, but it’s due to Obama era regulations?

Why should I touch that, it was not related to.my point.
 
👍 and not everyone is going to, or is being tested, as per my experience yesterday, The true extent of this pandemic will not be recorded. Perhaps by next Northen Hemisphere flu season things will be different.
 
Why are we not being encouraged to wear masks? Health care workers are wearing them. People infected are wearing them. This proves they work. They aren’t a hundred percent effective but even if they are, say fifty percent effective, they are useful. I read they definitely make the virus droplets harder to spread. Yet I see nobody wearing them. I’d wear one but then everyone would think I was infected. Two reasons I can think is because there aren’t enough of them to go around and people would horde them. And it might give a false sense of security that they are 100 percent effective and people wouldn’t be as cautious.
 
Oh yeah, it will be different indeed! Hopefully, we will have that quick test so we can immediately identify and isolate patients. We may even have a vaccine by then…though that’s pushing it a bit. Finally, we will have enough reagents on hand for all the PCR tests because the rapid tests all need to be confirmed. Those rapid flu A/B tests are all sent for confirmation but we’ll be in good shape. Plus, we will understand much better how this crazy virus is spread, incubated and treated much better! We just have to get through now…
 
HarryStotle said:
A couple of good articles that reinforce your point…
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I want to defend the CDC a bit here. The testing developed in other labs under normal circumstances have to go through protocols to be allowed to use them. The CDC can only waive these rules and shorten the process if there is an emergency declared. As soon as Covid 19 was declared an emergency, the CDC fast tracked the other labs tests. It’s a bit unfair to have rules that can only be broken in an emergency yet blame them because they followed the law. Should the rules be changed to allow them more discretion in the future? Yes. But, until the rules are changed it’s not fair to blame them for following it!
 
In my neck of the woods, we’re running out of toilet paper and soap, which makes me curious what people were doing in the bathroom before.
 
Zach said:
Why are we not being encouraged to wear masks? Health care workers are wearing them. People infected are wearing them. This proves they work.
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If everyone started wearing them there would be a severe shortage of masks for the medical personnel on the front lines.
 
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HarryStotle:
A couple of good articles that reinforce your point…
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I want to defend the CDC a bit here. The testing developed in other labs under normal circumstances have to go through protocols to be allowed to use them. The CDC can only waive these rules and shorten the process if there is an emergency declared. As soon as Covid 19 was declared an emergency, the CDC fast tracked the other labs tests. It’s a bit unfair to have rules that can only be broken in an emergency yet blame them because they followed the law. Should the rules be changed to allow them more discretion in the future? Yes. But, until the rules are changed it’s not fair to blame them for following it!
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There is a bit more to it than that. Read the Reason.com article.
 
This was shared with me and it was a fascinating radio show about food. It’s a 28 minute show.
We hear about:
  • how in Dec 2019 UK businesses started to hear about port closures in China without much explanation and exporters were concerned if their products would ever reach China
  • how food shortages won’t be a problem in the UK because they can be quick in switching suppliers when disruptions occur but delays and limits for customers depending on the retailer will occur
  • Italian pasta factories are still open and exporting
  • planners have challenges in providing food for the poor and other vulnerable people
  • how Italians are shopping for food (1 member per family only allowed to buy and lines to pay have people spaced out)
  • wet markets mixing animals from around the world since the 1980’s promote new diseases in humans
www.bbc.co.uk

The Food Programme - Covid-19: The Food Dimension. - BBC Sounds

Dan Saladino tracks the origins and impact of coronavirus within the food supply chain.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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NevermoreLenore said:
Trump dismantled pandemic team
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Did you read it?
It was the National Security Council, not the CDC.
We’re talking military strategy here, not healthcare.

The CDC and HHS are the primary agencies for this crisis.

Or, why do you think the NSC should be taking lead on this one, we aren’t in The Walking Dead zone, are we?

FYI, the rear admiral that ran the NSC team wasn’t a health expert, he was a fighter pilot. I expect the CDC is more effective on disease topics and they have Pence as backup if they aren’t getting the resources they require.
 
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Governor Cuomo pleading for continuity in safety measures.
…complaining about him closing bars and restaurants and ‘his’ New Yorkers going to NJ to eat and drink. He wants continuity. Imagine that.
 
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What partisan agenda? I have said one thing about the Trump administration, that I don’t believe their testing promises. You are the one who has tried to egg me into a political fight by bringung up Obama over and over again (a man I never voted for BTW)

FYI, I have never voted for a denocrat in my life.
 
HarryStotle said:
There is a bit more to it than that. Read the Reason.com article.
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This link just leads me to the home page. I read the previous link. I agree that the labs developing in-house tests were stymied. The question is, do you bend your rules without authorization to do so? Had the tests been terrible would you be willing to risk the law suites? They needed the state of emergency to be declared before they could ok the tests and that ok was delayed.

I’m no fan of the CDC. I’ve dealt with them and their myriad of regulations but accept that the rules are there for our protection. As I stated, I’m sure they will revamp them due to the pandemic. Heck, the first test the CDC developed had a manufacturing fault that also led to delays. Stuff happens. There were problems. There is fault to be found throughout the early days. Nuff said.
 
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