The new Coronovirus, Covid-19 and its spread globally

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just for the record…there is an estimated 500,000 illegals in NYC
I’m a bit shocked that US jails are considering mass releases, it seems a harmful and self serving strategy. Jails provide the ideal quarantine conditions where social distancing is the norm.

I work with a juvie facility where all visiting has been effectively stopped, to isolate and protect the youths. New intakes are also not happening, again to protect the youths in already in the facility.
 
To be honest I just want to catch this thing already and see if I can survive it (probably, but God willing) and get the fear over with. But I don’t want to spread it to anyone else, so that’s going to keep me socially distancing for a while. There’s also the issue of long-term complicated sequelae, which was a significant problem for some survivors of the original SARS, although this one seems much weaker (so it spreads easier too).

[This might sound crazy but it’s a droplet-borne pandemic that most people are expected to get eventually.]
 
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To be honest I just want to catch this thing already and see if I can survive it (probably, but God willing) and get the fear over with.
Sadly, the fear issue isn’t just around surviving Covid-19. Any significant health issue you may encounter during this pandemic may result in your death indirectly due to hospital saturation. If all the critical care beds are way beyond capacity, those suffering from non Covid-19 things like car accidents, heart attacks, strokes etc etc that require an ICU stay, may face not getting the treatment they need.

There will unfortunately be a huge indirect death toll that will go hand in hand alongside this virus.
 
That’s true, I’m being presumptuous that I would not need to be hospitalized and can quarantine on my own.
 
Oh Dear Lord. Help us.

Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus, holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen
 
A sober article from a prominent Stanford PhD professor of medicine and biomedical data science that highlights how decisions are being made without reliable data due to the lack of it. That even at this point in time, there is so much we still don’t have a good grip on. Very good reading.


From the article (emphasis mine):
The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.

Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%. But since this estimate is based on extremely thin data — there were just seven deaths among the 700 infected passengers and crew — the real death rate could stretch from five times lower (0.025%) to five times higher (0.625%). It is also possible that some of the passengers who were infected might die later, and that tourists may have different frequencies of chronic diseases — a risk factor for worse outcomes with SARS-CoV-2 infection — than the general population. Adding these extra sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%.

That huge range markedly affects how severe the pandemic is and what should be done. A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies.

Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say, pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes. In fact, such “mild” coronaviruses infect tens of millions of people every year, and account for 3% to 11% of those hospitalized in the U.S. with lower respiratory infections each winter.

These “mild” coronaviruses may be implicated in several thousands of deaths every year worldwide, though the vast majority of them are not documented with precise testing. Instead, they are lost as noise among 60 million deaths from various causes every year.

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The most valuable piece of information for answering those questions would be to know the current prevalence of the infection in a random sample of a population and to repeat this exercise at regular time intervals to estimate the incidence of new infections. Sadly, that’s information we don’t have.
 
It’s only a matter of time before all the mentally retarded clients I work for get this virus. It will happen soon I’m sure. They swap spit on the daily and I get sneezed/coughed at on the daily. Oh well smh.
I work with teens and also expect I’ll get it, I’m just trying to make it later rather than sooner. Also working to keep my immune system strong, as should you if you can’t avoid contact with your clients.
 
The economic damage from this panic is going to kill more people than the virus ever would.
 
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I’m expecting the combined Flu and Cornoa deaths this year are less than Flu alone deaths last year, which were 61k in the USA.
 
Depends how many are infected. If a million people get infected, at a conservative estimate of 1% fatality rate, that would be 10,000 deaths. If 10 million people get infected, that’s 100,000 dead from covid19 alone. This gives us a good idea of how important social distancing is right now.
 
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Depends how many are infected. If a million people get infected, at a conservative estimate of 1% fatality rate, that would be 10,000 deaths. If 10 million people get infected, that’s 100,000 dead from covid19 alone. This gives us a good idea of how important social distancing is right now.
I think a great many people who would have died from the flu will survive this year due to increased social distancing and greater care of the sick and elderly. Half of WA deaths are coming from a single assisted living facility. Now every other such facility across the nation is hyper sensitive to protecting their residents.
 
We have seen this from the beginning: this has had the most effect on those with some other health issue(s).
True, but health isues such as high blood pressure are more prevalent among older people.
And a lot of newspapers articles have stated that Italy has failed to treated some older patients because of lack of medical means. That’s inevitably lead to more deaths among old people.
 
You could just say people with disabilities.
 
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