Can you supply any credible sources for your statements or are they just your own observations? In my life I have known 100s of gay men both professionally (as patients) and socially and know or have heard of very few such incidents.
Classic!!! The victim made me do it.
I believe the press may be responsible for much of the attention. Its human nature. Gay murders are will attract a more diverse group of readers, including the “fag” haters. They elicit all kinds emotions.
I think that those guys who were sexually harassed and groped by men need to learn to dress and act less provocatively.
Maybe we did have this coming. We’ve been too uncharitable towards them. (Yes uncharitable) Yes, homosexual actsare very grave and abominable sins, but Christians haven’t preaching that truth with the reminder that God, even in their sin, still loves them very much.I’ve seen so many debates here regarding homosexuality but I often have trouble seeing this particular sub-topic being discussed.
But before I go on, here’s a disclaimer: I don’t care for the GLBT agenda. To half the gays I know, I’m a friend but the kind of friend that’s never without a Fred Sanford-style remark.
What I don’t get is so why are so many Christians crying about the GLBT agenda winning so many hearts and sympathies? I just don’t get it. You’re talking about a minority that really has been bullied, harassed, and marginalized by religious authorities.
Now I hear Christians whining about them playing the victim card. Well Mr. Fred Phelps, who do you think gave them that card in the first place?
Don’t you think it’s intellectually dishonest for Catholics to engage in a culture war with the GLBT movement and ignore just how much of its anger came from religious mistreatment? Don’t any of you even consider the idea that the whole movement was a backlash waiting to happen?
How could anyone act like this wasn’t coming?
Because the homosexual committed criminal assault and battery and possibly sex abuse and the straight man defended himself. Also, if the man does nothing the homosexual could do something worse such as molestation or murder so ‘pinching the tushy’ can easily escalate to something worse in seconds. The first thing molesters do are the deeds described. But heterosexually or homosexually, you have no right to touch any person’s private parts against their will and people have a right to defend themselves. You’re giving sympathy to homosexuals who committed criminal assault and battery while condemning the men who defend themselves. If a thief is stealing from a store, do you then suggest the storekeeper just tolerate this stealing do nothing?
Actually you sometimes do see this happen and when it does most people do not sympathize with the men on the view that they committed sex abuse and the woman fought back. There are many men in jail for doing this because it is** criminal assault and battery up to sex abuse for a man to touch a woman’s boobs against will ** and there have even been some cases where men have been false accused of abusing women. During the Jodi Ann Arias murder trial, her dead boyfriend was falsely accused of abusing her when it was the other way round. Jury didn’t believe Jodi Ann Arias and found her guilty of 1st Degree Murder. So men do not get away with doing this to women and in a few cases, men have been falsely accused.
No, I am not giving sympathy to gay men. I also am not giving straight men any sympathy.
After all, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
In my life, I’ve not ever been told those things.
I am not saying people told me directly that I should grin and bear it. Nor was I condoning rape (which I don’t believe was in the original example). And even modestly dresses women get harassed. Most of us learn at an early age to pretend it didn’t happen, or being good girls, wonder what we did to bring on the behavior. We don’t go around beating people up. We don’t even call the cops.
I haven’t been uncharitable to them.In fact in my 6 decades as Catholic I have never seen this as a issue at all.Homosexuality really if ever comes up.Of course those who complain the most are not looking for more charity from the Church.They are looking for the Church to charge their teachings and accept their behavior as normal. For many merely starting Church teaching is considered uncharitable and an attack on homosexuals m
The OP stated abuse of LGBT by religious authorities, so when you told about being beaten up by men, I thought you were referencing abuse by religious authorities.
The sad thing is that some of them do have an LGBT kid.,What, Fox News hasn’t done a story on the gang of lesbians in Tennessee who roam around beating up people? How sad. After reading the posts on this thread, I’m truly glad that none here have a LGBT son, daughter or brother or sister. How could you ever stand to acknowledge that you are related to such horrible humans?
This.
This is really a bad attitude to have towards discrimination. I don’t think Christ said it was okay to look down on other people, so long as they had it coming. The actions towards the LGBT community were wrong, yes, but that doesn’t condone how members of the Church are starting to be treated. I don’t get this mentality of eye-for-an-eye. You don’t have to be a Christian to see that’s not the right way. It also shouldn’t be on some scale of severity. Discrimination is simply wrong regardless of who it is targeted towards and who is discriminating.
This.^^^^^
I’ll take a stab at it, if I may.
It is less logical and intuitive than saying “disinterested” means “apathy”.
It is hard to have a thread start with such a loaded concept as “thread” and “karma” not turn ugly.