Citations please … sources, texts re: ECF understandings /beliefs on the Rapture.
Moses told the people to remain behind … and he walked on ahead, out of their view. And, he was never found. To this day the Jews haven’t a clue to his burial site. The ‘promise land’ for Moses … was presence with the Lord [in Heaven]. He was too old to lead his people into the Holy Land on earth. That was mission bequeathed to Joshua, who was young … and ready to ‘fit the battle’.
Recall that Elijah was ALSO TAKEN OUT into a private place ‘at God’s instruction’ for his Rapture … and ONLY Elisha [a holy one, being able to receive a DOUBLE PORTION], was allowed to witness. Moses was Raptured … w/o a doubt. A secret rapture, which the unholy Israelites were not allowed to witness.
Later, we are informed that Moses was on the Mount in Jerusalem, with Elijah & Christ, … witnessed by the Disciples. And Christ told them to “TELL NO ONE” about it. Why ? This special unveiling of Moses, alive with Christ, …was for the Church [to know about]. Unbelievers still think Moses is dead and buried. The Church knows better ! Our first Papa … witnessed it !
BRB I am very surprised that you don’t seem to know your OT bible and think Moses had a secret rapture(!). This is just blatantly un-biblical. Just because the ancient Jews did not mark the grave to protect it from grave robbers does not diminish the plain words of scripture Moses “DIED THERE IN MOAB”.
DEATH OF MOSES
*Deuteronomy 34:4-8 Then the LORD said to him, “This is the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when I said, ‘I will give it to your descendants.’ I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not cross over into it.” 5 And
Moses the servant of the LORD
died there in Moab, as the LORD had said. 6 He buried him ** in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. 7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone. 8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days, until the time of weeping and mourning was over. **
I have given prior references in this thread about the Church rejecting millianariasm. WE ARE IN THE CHURCH AGE NOW - THIS is the FIGURATIVE 1000 years. MOST of what is in the Book of Revelation ALREADY HAPPENED. The Olivet Discourse is talking about the time before the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.
Here is another reference you should read:
The Earthquake Generation (Jimmy Akin)
From Akin’s writings:
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The Olivet Discourse is not talking about something in our future, but about something in our past—about the period leading up to the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70. The material at the beginning of the Olivet Discourse certainly does not apply to the end of time, but to the forty years between Christ’s Ascension and the end of the Jewish War. Many miraculous signs in the heavens already were performed during this period (Acts 2:43, 5:12, 6:8, 8:6, 8:13, 14:2, 15:12). Even Jewish-Roman Historian Josephus records a number of them: “Thus there was a star resembling a sword [or a cross; cf. Matt. 24:30], which stood over the city, and a comet that continued for a whole year. . . . chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds” (ibid., 6:5:3).
Jesus specifically stated that “this generation will not pass away before all these things take place” (Mark 13:30; cf. Luke 21:32). It is therefore entirely reasonable to take the prophecy not as a reference to the future Second Coming, but as symbolic and apocalyptic language, modeled on Old Testament parallels, pointing to Christ’s judgment on Jerusalem—which did take place within that generation, when the city was sacked by the Romans. With the Temple destroyed we are now in The Church Age.
The preaching of the gospel to ‘all nations’ has already occurred as well;
To Mediterranean peoples back then, “the world” meant the known world and “the nations” meant those clustered around the Mediterranean. In Luke 2:1, the evangelist states that a decree had gone forth from Augustus Caesar that “all the world” should be enrolled. In Colossians 1:6, we find Paul saying that the gospel is bearing fruit and growing “in the whole world.” In Romans 1:5 he says that God sent him to bring about the obedience of faith “among all the nations.” He says in Romans 16:26 that God’s plan is being made known “to all nations” by the prophetic writings.
In Colossians 1:23 Paul states that “the gospel . . . has been preached to every creature under heaven.”*
Jesus’ statements are read from the perspective of those he was addressing in Israel,
they are not understood to be global predictions. He was speaking to them about things they would hear about in the period before the destruction of the Temple.
About Millenarianism & ECF References
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James*
