Certainly not, according to the teachings of both Catholicism and Judaism! (I realize your questions are rhetorical.) The preservation of human life is basic to both religions and Judaism states that virtually all the other commandments (with the exception of idolatry) may be broken if life is endangered.Does this mean it’s all right for doctors to let people die on Sunday/Sabbath?
Should firemen let houses burn down?
Should police refuse to answer even 911 calls?
Thank you… but then we come into grayer areas.Certainly not, according to the teachings of both Catholicism and Judaism! (I realize your questions are rhetorical.) The preservation of human life is basic to both religions and Judaism states that virtually all the other commandments (with the exception of idolatry) may be broken if life is endangered.
That’s where rabbis, who interpret both the Written Law (Torah) and the Oral Law (Talmud) come in. Believe me, I’m sure most, if not all, these questions have already been answered, although sometimes there are majority and minority views. I’m not a rabbi but I’m fairly certain that the restaurant examples involving prior obligation and (especially) liking a particular restaurant are insufficient reason to disobey the Sabbath commandment. The others require more thought. And, of course, there are less Orthodox Jews, such as myself, who have different perspectives regarding specific Sabbath laws, compared to those who fully practice Torah Judaism. Those who fulfill all the Sabbath regulations, however, don’t think of them as legalistic requirements.Thank you… but then we come into grayer areas.
What if you ran out of food and have to shop on Sunday? Or your child is not critically ill, but uncomfortable enough and you have no cough medicine or whatever she needs to comfort her?
What if a neighbor needs noncritical help?
What if someone invites you to dinner and you’ve already fulfilled your obligation? Or you want to take a drive to a faraway restaurant that you like?
I’m sure people can think of other examples.
An Israeli visitor nearly burned down a friend’s house by lighting a candle and placing it near the curtains. She could not blow it out due to such restrictions. Luckily someone else caught it in time. It’s an extreme example to be sure, but where does a Catholic draw the line?
At first I did not understand what people meant by ‘legalism’ but now I may begin to see.
In your relationships, i.e. father, mother, sisters, brothers, girlfriend, best friend, employer etc. etc. etc. you “know where and when to draw the line” because you have taken the time to get to know them, and know who they are etc. Nothing different from that and your relationship to JESUS. Do not ask a stranger, “where do I draw the line” in not offending JESUS on the Sabbath because only you will answer to JESUS for what you have done or failed to do on the Sabbath, we will not be there. Rely upon your relationship with JESUS - which ironically is best established in the quiet of the Sabbath - to judge for yourself, but look to the Bible for models to compare yourself against, if you have not yet established a personal relationship with JESUS.Thank you… but then we come into grayer areas.
What if you ran out of food and have to shop on Sunday? Or your child is not critically ill, but uncomfortable enough and you have no cough medicine or whatever she needs to comfort her?
What if a neighbor needs noncritical help?
What if someone invites you to dinner and you’ve already fulfilled your obligation? Or you want to take a drive to a faraway restaurant that you like?
I’m sure people can think of other examples.
An Israeli visitor nearly burned down a friend’s house by lighting a candle and placing it near the curtains. She could not blow it out due to such restrictions. Luckily someone else caught it in time. It’s an extreme example to be sure, but where does a Catholic draw the line?
At first I did not understand what people meant by ‘legalism’ but now I may begin to see.
Glad you’ve asked!Does this mean it’s all right for doctors to let people die on Sunday/Sabbath?
Should firemen let houses burn down?
Should police refuse to answer even 911 calls?
I think that you have answered your query!Thank you… but then we come into grayer areas.
What if you ran out of food and have to shop on Sunday? Or your child is not critically ill, but uncomfortable enough and you have no cough medicine or whatever she needs to comfort her?
What if a neighbor needs noncritical help?
What if someone invites you to dinner and you’ve already fulfilled your obligation? Or you want to take a drive to a faraway restaurant that you like?
I’m sure people can think of other examples.
An Israeli visitor nearly burned down a friend’s house by lighting a candle and placing it near the curtains. She could not blow it out due to such restrictions. Luckily someone else caught it in time. It’s an extreme example to be sure, but where does a Catholic draw the line?
At first I did not understand what people meant by ‘legalism’ but now I may begin to see.
She should not have lit a candle on Shabbat in the first place.Thank you… but then we come into grayer areas.
What if you ran out of food and have to shop on Sunday? Or your child is not critically ill, but uncomfortable enough and you have no cough medicine or whatever she needs to comfort her?
What if a neighbor needs noncritical help?
What if someone invites you to dinner and you’ve already fulfilled your obligation? Or you want to take a drive to a faraway restaurant that you like?
I’m sure people can think of other examples.
An Israeli visitor nearly burned down a friend’s house by lighting a candle and placing it near the curtains. She could not blow it out due to such restrictions. Luckily someone else caught it in time. It’s an extreme example to be sure, but where does a Catholic draw the line?
At first I did not understand what people meant by ‘legalism’ but now I may begin to see.
This is why my involvement in this forum is all but ended.I think that you have answered your query!
If we stick to a legalistic view of God’s Commandments we will ignore the greater good over strict observance of what we perceive to be the Law.
Here’s where Catholics must draw the line:
Ignoring God to accumulate greater and greater wealth.
Giving to the world what belongs to God.
Rejecting God’s Command over the world’s.
Making creatures into gods.
Thinking that we can fool God by circumventing His Commands and minimizing our obligations to God.
I will attempt one of your analogies:
…say I must work extremely long days and I am required to to assist my parent/s and my sibblings with the little free time I may have… come Sunday my three year old runs out of cold syrup… do I stay in bet till 11:00 am then rush out of the house to the nearest pharmacy/suppermarket (missing Sunday Mass) or do I pray for patience, strength, and ability… jump out of bed, take a quick shower, and hit the store/market early enough to allow me to return home with the necessary groceries and meds… get the rest of the kids ready and tell the wife that I’ll keep them out for an extra hour or two so that she would need to deal only with the sickly 3 year old?
…as far as already having fulfilled your obligations and traveling… are you not aware that the limits were set to keep people from violating the Law?
If a friend asks me to diner or some other actrivity (as long as I am not being drawn away from God) I would violate God’s Law only if I chose to visit/associate with the afluent while rejecting the poor… or if I know that someone is going through some tough times and I chose to go to a game or some other event rather than to accept an invitation to spend some time with him/her… and traveling? …I remember, as a kid, trying to get one of the dunkies to take me across the river with a light load… that joker knew I was from the city and refused to comply… after much toil, sweat, and tears it might let me ride for a few minutes before dropping me on my sit–today, I can travel through several towns in the time that it got me to move a few feets on dunky power!–the Sabbath was never meant to hinder our lives!
Maran atha!
Angel
If it was a Sabbath candle, it would have been lit just BEFORE the beginning of the Sabbath. However, Karaite Jews do not believe that lights should be on DURING the Sabbath even if they were turned on before. They do NOT light Sabbath candles. It is correct that holiday fasting on the Sabbath is postponed, except for Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), which happens to fall on the Sabbath this coming Friday evening. Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish Year, is regarded itself as the ultimate Sabbath.She should not have lit a candle on Shabbat in the first place.
I think that with all the amazement over regulations, we forget that the Sabbath is to be a time of rejoicing in the LORD! For example, one is not to fast on the Sabbath! When a major Jewish fast day (such as 9 Av) falls on Shabbat, the fasting is postponed!
Is everybody missing the forest in all the foliage of regulations??
God Bless and ICXC NIKA
Luke 23 verse 50 begins The Burial description which reads at verse 55; “…The women who had come with him from Galilee followed along behind.They saw the tomb and how his body was buried. Then they went home to prepare spices and perfumes. They observed the sabbath as a day of rest, in accordance with the law.”Once again, I’ll try to pull this thread back on the topic.
After more consideration, I respectfully disagree with the title and premise. Jesus WAS buried. He was IN the tomb. No, all the rituals were not done, but it is not even just a matter of argument, to begin with – Jesus was DEAD and BURIED.
Yes, as scripture says, the body WAS taken down and placed in the tomb before the Sabbath began. So, both types of considerations of burial and of the Sabbath were fulfilled.
I don’t see that the many posts here have dealt with the facts as best as we know them.
Not in the Catholic view.…
As for which day you worship.
Romans 14:5 One person decides that one day is holier than another. Another person decides that all days are the same. Every person must make his own decision.
So Christians are under no obligation to the Law except that mentioned in Acts 25, and can worship any day should circumstances prevent worshipping on Sunday.
As a Catholic my observance of the Sabbath is not as that prescribed by the Jewish customs (I am speaking not of Yahweh God’s Command but of the various and elavorate addendums created in an effort to augment the adherance to the Commandment); since it is the Lord’s Day, I celebrate Mass (partake of the celebration) and enjoy reading Sacred Scriptures, and contemplative prayer; yet, as Jesus clearly Taught, the Sabbath is not meant to limit me but to afford me rest from the daily toils and ample time to serve God; if we follow Jesus, there are two Commandments which fulfill the Law: Love Yahweh God above all else and your neighbor as yourself… sharing a meal with a friend is not against God’s Will; helping those in need is not against God’s Will; supporting my family/self is not against God’s Will–the issue of transgression arises if I chose to ignore God in order to benefit financially or to recreate myself or if I ignore the need of those who seek my help in the quest for trivial matters…This is why my involvement in this forum is all but ended.
I don’t understand whether you are seriously suggesting it is NOT all right to go to lunch or dinner with friends IF YOU HAVE FULFILLED YOUR OBLIGATION AS A CATHOLIC.
The fact is that the usual burial customs did not take place due to the observance of the Sabbath; yet, though a hurried burial took place the fact is that the Resurrection had not taken place so the observance of the Sabbath was required (just as Jesus pointed it out to John the Baptist); finally, once the Resurrection of Jesus takes place the Apostles begin to gather on the Lord’s Day for Breaking of the Bread and communal prayer/worship.Once again, I’ll try to pull this thread back on the topic.
After more consideration, I respectfully disagree with the title and premise. Jesus WAS buried. He was IN the tomb. No, all the rituals were not done, but it is not even just a matter of argument, to begin with – Jesus was DEAD and BURIED.
Yes, as scripture says, the body WAS taken down and placed in the tomb before the Sabbath began. So, both types of considerations of burial and of the Sabbath were fulfilled.
I don’t see that the many posts here have dealt with the facts as best as we know them.
…actually, not!But I’m beginning to understand why people become Protestants.