Thank you.
The first video explains that Genesis is not “bad science”, not science at all, but exquisite theology.
What problems?
The best way to find problems with the first three delightful chapters of Genesis is to check the new threads on the left side of the screen. Another avenue is to go down the list of threads in the Sacred Scripture and Apologetics Forums. Over time, I have seen threads in other Forums.
One problem comes from the sweet talking approach to the Evolution Theory itself. For example, these misleading quotes are from the article “What You Absolutely Need to Understand About Evolution” This article basically ignores the Catholic teaching that the human species descended from two sole fully-complete original humans. Genesis 1: 27. Fundamentally, the article ignores (omits) what is taught in the real Catholic Church. That is a clever way of putting the Science of Human Evolution above the teaching of Genesis 2: 15-17
I don’t think it would add a great deal to the article to have incorporated the Catholic teaching on the status of Adam and Eve. [It is perhaps an opportunity missed.] The author opposes those who dismiss evolution, in all it’s key features, on the (false) grounds that it is incompatible with God’s role as creator, and to quote a teaching from genesis would not add anything to that argument.
You are correct.
You are correct.
However, the point is not Adam and Eve. My apology. Perhaps I was not clear.
The three quoted comments refer directly to the scientific theory itself. In addition, I consider the title of the article – “What You Absolutely Need to Understand About Evolution”
Questions?
Reading the title of the article, do you expect complete information about the evolution theory or do you settle for part information?
What is the place where the Science of Human Evolution directly intersects with the Catholic doctrines regarding Adam? I am asking about the scientific intersection point or place. The assumption is that readers actually know and accept the Catholic doctrines regarding Adam.
Do “all it’s key features” of evolution theory appear in the article? How?
These are the three quotes from post 202 which need challenging.
“…I think of evolution as fundamentally nothing more than atoms and molecules, organized into physical systems, doing their thing.”
“…we have nothing to fear in any scientific theory about how matter and energy evolve over time”
“The number-one thing to get straight about evolution and chance is to simply pray the Creed and mean it.”
My own wrong assumption is that all readers are aware of the difference between an originating population in the hundreds or thousands and the originating human population of two. According to the Science of Human Evolution, individuals do not evolve. Indiscriminate random breeding humanizing populations evolved over time and eventually produced the human species. Refer to the Homo/Pan Split aka a speciation event.
Do you recognize that human beings are body and soul?
Yes. Yes.
From what I have observed on CAF, it is the “but, “but” but” of the evolution theoryI’m not sure what it is you are continuing to assert. You seem to agree with the Church’s relationship with science, but you always have a mysterious “but, but, but”…
You have to think about breeding populations and polygenism in light of Catholic thought. Catholic thought about polygenism speaks of “true humans” (Pius’ exact words) as a unity of body and soul.
These are the words of Pope Pius XII in reference to human nature. There is no mention of polygenism per se in this definition. *Humani Generis *w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis.html
Really not sure what your beef is.These are the words of Pope Pius XII in reference to human nature. There is no mention of polygenism per se in this definition. *Humani Generis *w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis.html
“36. For these reasons the Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter - for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God.”
Here is the Pope Pius XII Catholic thought in Humani Generis.
“37. When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.”
Naturally, the people opposed to the first three sacred scriptures of Genesis, the True Creation Story, immediately jumped on the word “apparent.”
Apparently, in all the years since 1950, the Catholic Church has not changed its position regarding teachings involved with Original Sin.
The Science of Human Evolution proclaims that the human species began as an indiscriminate random breeding humanizing large population evolving from previous large indiscriminate random breeding populations over time.
The article you quoted above references “evolution” (in the broad) not human evolution. It’s “battleground” is not the issue you focus upon.
I find it a bit strange that intelligent participants are not aware of the Science of Human Evolution. Maybe they are not aware of the work of paleoanthropologists. It is time to get used to this century.
We Catholics can accept the basic evolution theory when it is applied to non-humans.
