There’s No Gay Gene, Says Scientists

[bzkoss236]

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In The Quarterly Review of Biology, researchers at UC Santa Barbara and Uppsala University in Sweden have concluded through their research that sexual orientation can be decided through epi-marks, which are temporary switches in a fetus’ DNA that exist while in the womb and shortly after birth.

Unlike most genetic switches, they are passed down from the opposite sex parent: Father to Daughter, Mother to Son. Most of these marks aren’t supposed to be passed from generation to generation and they are essentially tossed to the wind. This explains why homosexuality seems to run in families, but without any obvious genetic markers.

Epigenetic markers are “an added layer of information that clings to our DNA,” and regulate the expression of genes according to an external trigger.

i09 puts it best: “Genes are basically the instruction book, while epi-marks direct how those instructions get carried out. For example, they can determine when, where, and how much of a gene gets expressed.”

What’s interesting is that these epi-marks are produced from scratch. They can be passed down from generation to generation, but the process starts from zero every time. They’re actually made to protect the fetus from too much natural variation. When testosterone gets too high, the epi-marks kick in to prevent the baby girl from getting too masculinized, and the inverse is true for boys.

So as a side-effect of that, one of the triggers affecting sexual orientation may kick in as well.

There’s a link to the research article as well.

 

[torch621]

And yet this nation wants to legalize sodomite “marriage” yet?

I’m losing hope and starting to believe we’re under God’s judgment.

 

[InJesusItrust]

Wait for it… wait for it…

Do you hear that furious buzzing? It is the entire liberal hive awakening, as through a man smashed their base with a fallen tree branch.

 

[Dale_M]

The thread title really should match the headline of the news article because, while the headline is accurate, the thread title is inaccurate.

There’s No Gay Gene, Says Scientists is not the same as “Homosexuality Not Genetic.” In fact, the scientists being cited say that homosexuality is genetic, but that the condition is triggered by epigenetic markers which determine how genes will function.

Quoting from the article

In The Quarterly Review of Biology, researchers at UC Santa Barbara and Uppsala University in Sweden have concluded through their research that sexual orientation can be decided through epi-marks, which are temporary switches in a fetus’ DNA that exist while in the womb and shortly after birth.

Epigenetic markers are “an added layer of information that clings to our DNA,” and regulate the expression of genes according to an external trigger.

i09 puts it best: “Genes are basically the instruction book, while epi-marks direct how those instructions get carried out. For example, they can determine when, where, and how much of a gene gets expressed.”

Of course, this is merely one study, but it will be added to the growing base of data.

 

[SpeakInSilence]

Honestly, I’m confused how they come to the conclusion this has anything to do with sexual orientation.

This seems to be all hypothesis, and conjecture. Honestly, this could mean very little. I left Biochemistry after two years of studying because I realized my professors had too much of an agenda then actual science at times.

 

[bzkoss236]

The thread title really should match the headline of the news article because, while the headline is accurate, the thread title is inaccurate.

I apologize, I based the title on the title of the video on YouTube, because I saw the video first.

 

[Tingo]

Yes, Dale is right. The article clearly says research indicates a genetic basis for homosexuality. I am astonished that anyone could read it in the opposite way.

 

[chaldobyzantine]

What is with this forum’s obsession with homosexuality? It in of itself is not a sin, nor is it harmful to a person’s spiritual health. Homosexuals must be treated with kindness, love and compassion. For some people the teachings of the Lord for loving one another are forgotten and judging and discriminating are done instead in the name of Christianity. It is no wonder LGBT youth fear coming out to their families and friends, and suicide rates are higher among them within hateful environments.

-God Bless.

 

[cornbread_r2]

Honestly, I’m confused how they come to the conclusion this has anything to do with sexual orientation.

This seems to be all hypothesis, and conjecture. Honestly, this could mean very little. I left Biochemistry after two years of studying because I realized my professors had too much of an agenda then actual science at times.

At worst, it’s still much better evidence than intuition.

 

[cornbread_r2]

Yes, Dale is right. The article clearly says research indicates a genetic basis for homosexuality. I am astonished that anyone could read it in the opposite way.

Dale_M is invaluable.

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

“Genetic” has two meanings: one scientific, and one in the discussion of laymen.

The research does not indicate that homosexuality is a “choice”, if that’s what you were trying to get at.

 

[SpeakInSilence]

I apologize, I based the title on the title of the video on YouTube, because I saw the video first.

This is true, I would have to read the complete study first because I really make my mind up.

I am curious about the moral ramifications of this if it’s the case. Does something that seemingly comes natural something always to act upon. Claims have been made that things like addiction is natural, and over eating can all be genetic.

If homosexuality is “natural” in the genetic sense do Christians have the moral ground to say homosexual acts are wrong?

 

[cornbread_r2]

This is true, I would have to read the complete study first because I really make my mind up.

I am curious about the moral ramifications of this if it’s the case. Does something that seemingly comes natural something always to act upon. Claims have been made that things like addiction is natural, and over eating can all be genetic.

If homosexuality is “natural” in the genetic sense do Christians have the moral ground to say homosexual acts are wrong?

If nothing else, I think that it says something about the limits of free will.

 

[SpeakInSilence]

If nothing else, I think that it says something about the limits of free will.

But think about what that means. I do not believe that most people who advocate determinism actually think about what that means. You are not you, you are what genetics have told you to be.

If you have a good genetic pool then you will be well off, if you do not, you will be damned? Do you see the problem with this? This might sound great in the world capitalism rains supreme and we are all “equal” through the confines of the “law”, but what happens when the walls are gone?

If the human person can be mapped out, then what?

If genetics make us who we are then someday we will be able to kill the serial killers before they are born, the sick, the retarded.

And then the liberals, conservatives, the religious…

Oh the genocide that will be made for the sake of progress.

Christians are skeptics about these sort of things because we are a faith of the sick, the poor, the left and the right, the religious, and things like this… this trying to map out who we are, this to me is dangerous.

 

[_Abyssinia]

The thread title really should match the headline of the news article because, while the headline is accurate, the thread title is inaccurate.

There’s No Gay Gene, Says Scientists is not the same as “Homosexuality Not Genetic.” In fact, the scientists being cited say that homosexuality is genetic, but that the condition is triggered by epigenetic markers which determine how genes will function.

Quoting from the article

Of course, this is merely one study, but it will be added to the growing base of data.

'Condition is triggered by… ’

 

[cornbread_r2]

But think about what that means. I do not believe that most people who advocate determinism actually think about what that means. You are not you, you are what genetics have told you to be.

If you have a good genetic pool then you will be well off, if you do not, you will be damned? Do you see the problem with this? This might sound great in the world capitalism rains supreme and we are all “equal” through the confines of the “law”, but what happens when the walls are gone?

If the human person can be mapped out, then what?

If genetics make us who we are then someday we will be able to kill the serial killers before they are born, the sick, the retarded.

And then the liberals, conservatives, the religious…

Oh the genocide that will be made for the sake of progress.

Christians are skeptics about these sort of things because we are a faith of the sick, the poor, the left and the right, the religious, and things like this… this trying to map out who we are, this to me is dangerous.

I don’t think genetic markers alone are perfect predictors of future behavior. I think that nurture will always also play a role.

If determinism didn’t play at least a limited role, however, then people’s behavior would be totally unpredictable – which it isn’t.

It’s also thought that qualities like altruism and empathy might also be genetically transmitted.

 

[loozcannon]

I found the article on my own and also read the same thing. There is no gay gene just it seems those markers influence your attractions.

The jury’s still out as to what society will think. This will go both ways as it does seem to give validity to the “born that way” argument, but until they can find a way to track someone with these epigenetic markers and can study these people, there won’t be hard evidence one way or the other.

This to me is one of those “stay tuned” studies.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Regardless of there being no so-called 'gay gene," the article supports that homosexual orientation is in fact biological and not an individual choice.

Jim

 

[bzkoss236]

This is true, I would have to read the complete study first because I really make my mind up.

I am curious about the moral ramifications of this if it’s the case. Does something that seemingly comes natural something always to act upon. Claims have been made that things like addiction is natural, and over eating can all be genetic.

If homosexuality is “natural” in the genetic sense do Christians have the moral ground to say homosexual acts are wrong?

Part of the issue with homosexuality in today’s culture is that aside from our belief that the “sex” they have is immoral, they are still having sex outside of wedlock, which is considered sinful for any sexual orientation.

 

[Dawnia]

This study seems to mesh with the study in Florida re baby girls getting dosed with estrogen in utero to make them more girly.

The more we learn, the more likely there will be ways to prevent such abnormalities in the future.