Three Days of Darkness?

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bear06 said:
Zoinks! Ok, I find myself having to defend Alex. If that’s not a sign of the coming Three Days of Darkness, I don’t know what is!:rotfl:

Tom, I honestly can’t see Alex saying anything different from the Church teachings you gave. I think I saw where the misunderstanding began. I think this phrase is where Tom missed something.

I think, at least from Tom’s subsequent responses, that he read that quote this way. Prophecy does not continue after the Ascension. I think this because of the very next post which doesn’t contradict anything Alex said.
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It is really quite simple, there are two types of revelation, public and private. Public revelation is closed, private revelations continue. Those are facts of the faith and that is exactly what I have been saying all along. Alex is trying to say all revelation is closed and that is a false belief. Further, I never said the Church holds the three days to be true, I said that the Church has approved various private revelations.
 
djrakowski said:
Clearly, you can’t reconcile this idea that you have to hole yourself up in your house and refuse mercy to those suffering outside with the Bible. It violates the commandment to “love your neighbor as yourself.”
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It seems very harsh that Lot’s wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt, it seems harsh that Noah and crew sat in a huge ark as people around them were washed away, it seems harhs for people to hear the sounds of first borns dying outside their homes during the Passover, it seems like superstition to believe that placing blood on a door can protect an entire home, etc…
 
Don’t prevaricate.

I NEVER said private revelations cannot exist or be valid and worthy of belief. Never once. Don’t lie, obfuscate, or prevaricate.

You started this thread by saying the CHURCH has a BELIEF in the Three Days of Darkness.

That is false. Don’t backtrack, don’t obfuscate what started this thread. Someone asked a legitimate question, and you gave a false answer.
 
Tom317 said:
It seems very harsh that Lot’s wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt, it seems harsh that Noah and crew sat in a huge ark as people around them were washed away, it seems harhs for people to hear the sounds of first borns dying outside their homes during the Passover, it seems like superstition to believe that placing blood on a door can protect an entire home, etc…
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Except that those were actions of God, not actions of men, and they are contained in public revelation. Therefore, I stand by my statement that it isn’t possible to reconcile the character of God, the commandments that we love our neighbors as ourselves, and the supposed command to deny mercy to the suffering in the prophecies of the 3 days of darkness.
 
All those nice Old Testament examples you keep trotting out do not change the simple fact: Christians are called to show MERCY, love and charity are the HIGHEST LAW.

The examples you cited do not change that. And guess what? It’s offensive to Catholicism to dare compare examples from divinely inspired revelation, which is inerrant, with “private revelations”. All you’re doing is trying to defend and justify your belief in superstitious nonsense.
 
Ummmm, I did NOT start this thread (talk about lying).

I have merely posted replies to the OP. My first reply was “Yes,” I believe the three days of darkness will happen.
 
AlexV, Okay I thought about it 🙂 and ask how is blessed candles made from 51% beeswax any more superstition than putting blood on your doorpost from a one year old unblemished lamb?

Not looking to argue but trying to reform my own opinion on this matter.
 
I suppose thos people washed away in the floof felt okay because it was later written in Scripture, and I am sure Lot felt great that his wife died because she would then be famous later in Scripture.

Called to mercy, yes we are. Called to ignore God’s warnings, no we are not. The prophecy states God will send a warning that the entire planet will see, if the warning does not happen, then the three days will not happen. So, in the end, mercy from Catholics MUST happen now and after the warning. If people refuse to turn to God after the warning, then there is little anyone can do for them, except pray for them.
 
djrakowski said:
Except that those were actions of God, not actions of men, and they are contained in public revelation. Therefore, I stand by my statement that it isn’t possible to reconcile the character of God, the commandments that we love our neighbors as ourselves, and the supposed command to deny mercy to the suffering in the prophecies of the 3 days of darkness.
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Please read post #264.
 
The command about blood on the doorpost was a command of GOD given in the inerrant, unfailingly correct pages of Sacred Scripture.

The command about 51% minimum beeswax candles is not.

That’s the crucial difference.

As for you, Tom, the question asked was not if YOU believed it. And that’s the crucial difference.

And to say that you started these pages because of your false answer is perfectly correct. A question was asked, and you started the “thread” that discussed it. You answered it incorrectly. YOU believe this. It’s not a “traditional Catholic” belief. It’s yours, and some others. Not the Church’s, not Catholicism’s.
 
BTW, Catholics are showing mercy by talking about this subject. That is their duty, to make people aware.
 
It’s also important to note that the Church has NOT approved a corpus of definitive “Three Days of Darkness” prophecies/revelations/whatever you want to call them.

So to call it “God’s warning” is a personal opinion. Tom’s, and those who agree with him. Not the Church.

I’ll stick with the Church.

And again, remember my important post: what are people who subscribe to this nonsense so afraid of? Death? Christians don’t fear death. Who cares if the sun goes black and gamma rays start bombing the planet?

The whole premise of this garbage is trying to “survive” some coming catastrophe. Not Catholic in the least.
 
AlexV said:
The command about blood on the doorpost was a command of GOD given in the inerrant, unfailingly correct pages of Sacred Scripture.

The command about 51% minimum beeswax candles is not.

That’s the crucial difference.

As for you, Tom, the question asked was not if YOU believed it. And that’s the crucial difference.

And to say that you started these pages because of your false answer is perfectly correct. A question was asked, and you started the “thread” that discussed it. You answered it incorrectly. YOU believe this. It’s not a “traditional Catholic” belief. It’s yours, and some others. Not the Church’s, not Catholicism’s.
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Good golly, how can I discuss something with a person who has sooo much pride that they will not even acknowledgethat I did NOT start this thread. I responded to the thread, just as you are.

I am now removing myself from talking to you, it is a ridiculous waste of time, you have nothing positive to say and you will not admit when you are wrong, which I have proven several times.
 
You are playing semantic games. You did START this thread, in the sense that the original poster asked a question and you answered it with a false assertion that has been corrected.

Spread fear and terror elsewhere. I’ll stick with the clear message of the Church, most recently enunciated by the late John Paul II: Be not afraid!

And he didn’t suggest stocking up on candles and medals, either.
 
Tom317 said:
I suppose thos people washed away in the floof felt okay because it was later written in Scripture, and I am sure Lot felt great that his wife died because she would then be famous later in Scripture.

Called to mercy, yes we are. Called to ignore God’s warnings, no we are not. The prophecy states God will send a warning that the entire planet will see, if the warning does not happen, then the three days will not happen. So, in the end, mercy from Catholics MUST happen now and after the warning. If people refuse to turn to God after the warning, then there is little anyone can do for them, except pray for them.
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Except that there’s no certainty that this is God’s warning, since this is a private revelation that hasn’t been approved by the Church.

Where has the Church declared otherwise? In what forum has the Church taught that Catholics ought to have a 3 days of darkness survival kit in their homes? Where has the Church put conditions on the mercy we’re to extend to the suffering? Why aren’t priests, bishops and even the Pope speaking, writing and preaching publically about this? Don’t you think this would at least concern them somewhat that there are possibly hundreds of millions of unprepared Catholics who would die as a result of not knowing what to do in this situation?

It doesn’t matter how many times you compare this to what happened in the Old Testament. This is nothing at all like what happened to those who mocked Noah, or what happened to Lot’s wife. This is a private revelation that supposedly occured after the close of public revelation, that isn’t contained in any approved apparitions, that hasn’t been the subject of any mass attempt by the bishops, priests and popes to educate Catholics of their peril and instructs Catholics to disobey the Biblical commandment to extend mercy to the suffering.

It doesn’t wash.
 
Let me get this straight. During these three days of darkness all the godless will be wiped out? Then the Catholic Church will have a golden age? Will the godless reappear during this "golden age’?

God Bless,
Michael
 
The beauty of our faith is we don’t have to worry or even question these scare mongering ideas.

We have what we need, for…here’s the rub…ANY eventuality.

The Fathers and medieval masters (not to mention Scripture) assure us that people will come around with rumors and scary tales.

We can safely ignore all of them.

Every minute spent reading about the “Three Days” could be spent reading the Breviary, or the Fathers.

Reading time much better spent.
 
AlexV said:
The beauty of our faith is we don’t have to worry or even question these scare mongering ideas.

We have what we need, for…here’s the rub…ANY eventuality.

The Fathers and medieval masters (not to mention Scripture) assure us that people will come around with rumors and scary tales.

We can safely ignore all of them.

Every minute spent reading about the “Three Days” could be spent reading the Breviary, or the Fathers.

Reading time much better spent.
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Unless of course you find yourself in a cold, dark room with no blankets nor blessed bees wax candles.😃
 
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